GoodRick

Depends on who you ask.

Nope. Not even a trailer.

I'm running out of patience. Arghh

Wish this was on Netflix so I could watch it.

Looking forward to this amazing lineup of cast members.

I KNOW RIGHT!!! I was like he kinda looks like my boy Song Kang and he is amazing in that show. I'm currently watching Beyond Evil and really enjoying it. Watch out Song Kang. You got competition. LOL :-)

LOL. On an unrelated side note - Do you think Yeo Jin Goo from Beyond Evil looks a little like Song Kang? I kinda like him too. LOL.

Okay, thank you for your advise. Yes, I'm here only for Song Kang. I love him. He my boy.

Okay, but if it has passed censorship then wouldn't that be the finished product? How can you go back and re-work on a product that has already passed censorship? Wouldn't they have to take it through censorship again if they are still tinkering with it?

August NEXT YEAR? You mean August 2022? Shooting finished wayyy back in September 2020. Why August 2022?

*Lurking in to check if there is a release date. Sees no release date. Curses a little and leaves*

Oh you're fine, really. Don't be too hard on yourself. All your posts are always very respectful. Also, I agree with you that this ain't "brotherhood". Whoever called it "brotherhood" is smoking some really good stuff and I want what they're having. LOL :-)

I know right. What a shame. I really love Song Kang and I already had to give up on Love Alarm because of the s#itty rating on that one, and now looks like I might have to give up on Nevertheless too. I have an extremely busy and hectic life and no time to waste. Wish this show had a better rating because I really love Song Kang. Sigh.

Well considering the fact that a TON of K-dramas released this year and within the past year or two have a rating of 9.0 or more makes 7. something rating look really trash. I mean I'm not talking one or two dramas. There is like tons of recent K-dramas have a rating over 9. These are only some I remember, I'm, sure there are more - Move to Heaven, Navillera, Vincenzo, Hospital Playlist, It's Not Okay To Be Okay, Flower of Evil, Mr. Queen, Crash Landing On You. All of these clocked a rating of 9.0 if not more. And these are just the recent ones, I'm sure there are plenty more. So, yeah makes 7.something sounds really bad.

I think the more relevant question is - Why do you find TU more subtle than WOH? Because they showed us a hug in WOH and not in TU? If so the bar for a Chinese show to be called a BL same sex romance is incredibly low, isn't it? And you have to remember the context in which they showed us that hug. ZZS was comforting WKX during the painful memories of his parents, and WKX almost seemed to reject and push back on that hug.

I think there is plenty of subtext, hinting and innuendos in WOH that can be interpreted to be romance. But that is all at the discretion of the viewer. What you felt was understated romance for me is just homoerotic subtext. I would never call subtext as romance. Subtext doesn't hold a candle to romance because romance is so much more powerful than subtext.

Hello. You're fine and your post is very respectful. It does not sound aggressive at all, at least not to me.

I think you really need to separate the novel Tian Ya Ke (TYK) from the TV adaptation WOH. WOH was adapted from the novel TYK but they are two separate entities. WOH is not TYK and TYK is not WOH. If you read your own post carefully I think you answer your own question. You are calling WOH a same-sex romance a lot in part as a nod to the original novel which represents the homosexual relationship. But you forget the two are not the same, but are separate entities. I agree TYK is a same-sex BL romance novel. But the fact is WOH is not. WOH is littered with homoerotic subtext like sleeve cutting, plenty of hinting, suggestions, innuendos, poetry. They throw you a TON of bone and we are lapping it all up. But there is no confession or any explicit acknowledgment of a romantic relationship. Everything is up to the discretion and the interpretation of the viewer. I understand why they did it - It's China and they have homophobic censorship rules, etc. But that doesn't change the fact that there is no depiction of romance beyond the subtext.

I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder. One man's trash is another man's treasure. What one finds ugly another might find beautiful. What you find in WOH as the BL romance of a lifetime, I find it Queerbaiting. It's all up for interpretation.

Quit picking on my boy please. I love him.

Hey that is awesome. I am so glad you stuck with it. This is an amazing drama, one that I really love.

I do have to warn you though, and this is just my opinion. I do think it is misleading that some are saying there is a "overt portrayal of BL" in WOH. There is NOT. Sure, there is a hug or two and you might catch them clasping their hands one time, but there is no overt romance between the leads. Not even the least. There might be some homoerotic subtext (sleeve cutting), clever twists, lots of hinting, suggestions, innuendos, poetry, bone-throwing, etc - plenty of that going on that is suggestive of a same-sex relationship, but then there is absolutely NO depiction of same-sex romance. I personally find it extremely disingenuous, not to mention misleading that some are claiming that there is "overt portrayal of BL", but that is just my opinion.

Hey this is just my opinion. I do think it is misleading that some are saying there is a "overt portrayal of BL" in WOH. There is NOT. Sure, there is a hug or two and you might catch them clasping their hands one time, but there is no overt romance between the leads. Not even the least. There might be some homoerotic subtext (sleeve cutting), clever twists, lots of hinting, suggestions, innuendos, poetry, bone-throwing, etc - plenty of that going on that is suggestive of a same-sex relationship, but then there is absolutely NO depiction of same-sex romance. I personally find it extremely disingenuous, not to mention misleading that some are claiming that there is "overt portrayal of BL", but that is just my opinion.

OMG Choi Woo Shik in a K-drama. That hasn't happened in a while. So excited.