My favorite of the series was #3, Tee and Mork. I thought the storyline was cute and reminded me a traditional romcom (romantic comedy). It was light -hearted, entertaining and made you feel good at the end. It also allowed Tee and Mork's characters to mature from the time Cause You 're My Boy. The relationship was out in the open, their family and friends knew of their relationship (as well as showed loving support), and the characters definitely were more comfortable with their sexuality.
I really didn't understand #1 or #4, Pick/Rome and Pete/Kao. Their storylines were a little disjointed to me and it was difficult to relate them to what had happened in the original series.
Episode #2, with Sun and In was enjoyable, again light-hearted and had a slight romcom feel to it. Just not as good as Tee and Mork.
Now for episode #5, Krist/Singto or Arthit/Kongpope as we've come to know them. I liked the storyline, it was very emotional, and I agree with the other posts that this episode really pushed Krist's acting skills to an all-new high. Singto, however, seemed a little stilted to me. I didn't see nearly as much emotion as was seen to Sotus, and Sotus S. To me, it almost seemed as if he didn't really want to play the part again. But, I might be wrong. I just think his character was so much stronger in the two previous series. But, I did like the story line and how the two carried their performances. As much as I liked Krist's acting skills in this episode, I really did not like how much his character had changed since Sotus. In Sotus, Krist's P'Arthit character was strong, intelligent, devoted to tradition and honor, compassionate, loyal, and secretly deeply emotional. And, in the end, he became more comfortable with his sexuality and his potential relationship with Kongpope, even telling his friends about their relationship. In Sotus S, Krist's chracter was weak, timid, slightly insecure, afraid of what other's might think, and definitely not comfortable with himself, his sexuality and his relationship to Kongpope. Although, he showed courage during the last episode of Sotus S, I just didn't understand how his character could change so much in a couple of years (which is the timeline of the series). It seemed as if instead of his character progressing (after two years), that in fact his character regressed. I wonder how Sotus S and Our Skyy #5 would have been, if Krist's character were allowed to continue the progression started in Sotus; The Series????
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I don't recall seeing this post. I'm sorry. If I had, I would've commented sooner. So, I will comment now, and hope someday you see it. The issue for me is not the "emotional" or "physical" actions of cheating; it remains the "trust" of the relationship. It should be (but, unfortunately not always so) that when you're in a committed relationship with someone, apart from the love that you have for that other person, there is the "trust" you have IN that other person. Trust that the person will treat you with love and respect; Trust that the person will not intentionally hurt or harm you; Trust that the person will be there for you as you are there for the other person; Trust that you're both in the relationship together; and Trust that when one person doesn't do the previous "trusts", Trust that the person will be honorable enough, respectful enough, or loving enough to be honest and upfront with you, so you have a more realistic way of getting through what may have occurred to threaten the "trust".
Although, as you've pointed out "it's just a BL drama for enjoyment", it did hit upon some realistic overtures in the LGBTQ+ community, and I think it would've been nice to see the writers and director handle the series with the idea of showing a more positive, instead of contrived, way gay couples could behave. In the series, the issue with Korn's cheating that bothered me was that he cheated, then lied about it, purposely planned with Cho to keep Knock from finding out, allowed everyone in their circle to know about the cheating (except Knock), and only confessed when someone else had told Knock. Even if it were possible that Korn "made a mistake" and slept with Pete, he willingly did everything else. Now, even with all of this, there is room for forgiveness. But, rebuilding "trust", that's a different issue entirely. I just would've like to have seen the writers treat that part of the relationship a little more realistically, and the series would've received a much higher rating from. me.
I totally agree! I also think it was the best of the series. Ep. 5 with Krist and Singto was dramatic, and probably…
Yep! Totally! If done right (allowing Mork and Tee to continue to grow and mature -- with an occasional, but workable trial, as any relationship may face), this could a really good RomCom series for the BL genre....
Episode 3 was the best. It works both as a standalone story and as an ending to My Tee, tying up the plot. Drake…
I totally agree! I also think it was the best of the series. Ep. 5 with Krist and Singto was dramatic, and probably what a "real" BL drama should be. But, Ep. 3 was the quintessential RomCom! It was lighhearted, stuck to an understanble plotline, and made you feel "real" good at the end....classic RomCom. And, most folks like a good romantic comedy. But, the thing I liked most is the fact that Mork and Tee's characters, as well as the relationship of the characters was allowed to grow and mature (even if just for a little). The series was a little silly at times...but this episode was definitely "more grown -up".
I thought Bad Romance was WAAAAYYY worse than this.
@bakaao Interesting points as well. I can see how one would see K/K's first "encounter" that way....Korn probably was hornier than Knock...Lol But, in an drunken state, inhibitions are "softened" and resistance is "futile," (to coin a phrase from from one of my all time series, (Star Trek, the Next Generation -- Borg episodes). Also, in that same Ep. 1, remember, Korn wanted Knock to have "another drink" just before he moved in "for the kill." And, then of course the next day, you have Knock very upset at what he himself said about what Korn had done to him (basically accusing him of sexual assault, without actually accusing him). This kind of reaction is more typical of when you "don"t" want something to happen vs. wanting something to happen. Knock was obviously not happy with what happened the previous night, indicating to us the viewers, that either he didn't want "It" too happen, or he that he was feeling "confused," ashamed, or even possibly embarassed, and simply reacted. As viewers, we'll never actually know. However, was no indication that he consented to sex, especially given the next morning's reaction. But, I hear what you're saying and I guess I basically agree with it. LOL
P.S. I will miss these discussions and posts. TWMNC had generated some great discussions!!!!!
I thought Bad Romance was WAAAAYYY worse than this.
Synchronicity, I also see your point. The issues you noted are real and in the LGBTQ+ community quite a bit. And, maybe the writers did try to bring some of those important issues out. If that was so, kudos to them.
But, another point that I think is important, especially in BL dramas, is the issue of rape and sexual assault, and how it is glamorized as if it's a normal appropriate way for people to behave. The series portrayed Korn as an "innocent" individual, who simply made a mistake and should be forgiven. I have no problem with that. Forgiveness is a worthy trait all should subscribe to be able to provide. But, least we not forget, in TWM the series, Korn "took advantage" of Knock in a drunken state (review Ep. 1 for yourself). Knock did not ask nor encourage Korn to have sex with him. And, even if Knock was having identity issues related to his self discovery, Korn had absolutely NO right to take advantage of him, someone "he was suppose to care about." Then, boom, Korn and Knock start to fall in love.... Hmmm.... I wonder what would've happened with their relationship had Korn simply gone to sleep (instead of doing what he did)?
Now, unfortunately, I know that getting someone drunk so you can have sex with them is still a fairly common practice, even today. However, unlike previous generations, this kind of behavior is NOW a crime in many cultures, and I hope in Thai culture as well. Back to Korn and Knock. All I'm saying is this, if Korn really loved Knock, why get him drunk just to have sex with him? Where is the morality? It doesn't seem to be in the BL novels, and certainly not in the BL dramas.
All I can really say is that I'm glad this is over. Although, I did enjoy the rollercoaster ride, and the input from the fans. But, I think this series was just a little to predictable, silly, unrealistic, and anti-climatic. But, somehow, I believe that it was intended to be this way -- otherwise, we who watched it wouldn't have enjoyed complaining, commenting, and "ragging" the series as much as we did. I'm not sure, but, I believe the post responses have been very high for this series, probably making it one of the top response rates of all the BL series that I've seen. If this is what the writers and director intended, GREAT JOB!
I think it's really good (way better than Bad Romance, in my opinion), but many fans are upset by the direction…
I agree...lol I'm can't wait to see Pete get his... But, I'd also like to see Knock teach Korn a little lesson, too. Just a little something to make sure Korn had truly learned his lesson...LOL
What are we going to do once this series is over??????????? OMG! I'm not sure I'll be glad or sad? -- Glad that this train wreck is finally put to rest; or Sad that I won't possibly be able to see and participate in these WONDERFUL posts anymore!!!!
I think it's really good (way better than Bad Romance, in my opinion), but many fans are upset by the direction…
Actually, this was the one episode I could've waited on. I thought it was anti-climatic, since we all kind of had some idea how it was going to go -- no surprises here. It would've been nice if the writers had thrown a little "curve ball" at the fans to shake things up. This episode was so not worth our week's wait.
Now that I've seen the official reunification of Knock and Korn, I'm sooooo totally bored and unconcerned with their story. The same old trope in their getting back together, as seen in many BL dramas. I just hope their scheme to get back at Pete makes the last episode somewhat worth this "12-car pile up" and "train wreck" we've endured for about the last 6-7 episodes....
First I would just like to say thank you to kisskh commenters, as expected these comments are off the chain,…
P.S.S. I forgot to tell you -- I agree with you that the comments are "off the chain." But, I haven't been this entertained in a long time! THANKS TO ALL THE POSTERS!!! YOU'RE GREAT!
First I would just like to say thank you to kisskh commenters, as expected these comments are off the chain,…
Interesting summations! Lmao! Actually, I, too want a happy ending between Knock and Korn. I just don't want to see the traditional tropes -- cheat, lie, forgive, cheat, lie, forgive...Yada, Yada, Yada... Would it be such a crime to allow Knock/Korn's getting back together go through a more realistic progression, such as them talking things out, and agreeing to work through things leading to getting back together (and not just get back together)???? In other words, add a little class to this BL drama!! LOL
Okay. I just watched Ep. 7 again. In that scene, Korn was seriously flirting with Pete just before they started drinking the infamous "mistake causing " wine. It appeared Korn knew exactly what he was doing, and there was NO mistake (except not stopping himself). Korn was even saying how he envied Pete's boyfriend and complimenting Pete. That's not the type of conversation you have with your boss, in his apartment. Then, the next morning, Korn asks Pete not to tell Knock, obviously in an attempt to be deceptive, indicating he wasn't so intoxicated that he didn't know what he was doing. I now clearly stand by my original agreement that this series is a "train wreck" or more appropriately a "12-car pile up on an icy road." The writers have all of us fans by the you know whats.....LOL
I really didn't understand #1 or #4, Pick/Rome and Pete/Kao. Their storylines were a little disjointed to me and it was difficult to relate them to what had happened in the original series.
Episode #2, with Sun and In was enjoyable, again light-hearted and had a slight romcom feel to it. Just not as good as Tee and Mork.
Now for episode #5, Krist/Singto or Arthit/Kongpope as we've come to know them. I liked the storyline, it was very emotional, and I agree with the other posts that this episode really pushed Krist's acting skills to an all-new high. Singto, however, seemed a little stilted to me. I didn't see nearly as much emotion as was seen to Sotus, and Sotus S. To me, it almost seemed as if he didn't really want to play the part again. But, I might be wrong. I just think his character was so much stronger in the two previous series. But, I did like the story line and how the two carried their performances. As much as I liked Krist's acting skills in this episode, I really did not like how much his character had changed since Sotus. In Sotus, Krist's P'Arthit character was strong, intelligent, devoted to tradition and honor, compassionate, loyal, and secretly deeply emotional. And, in the end, he became more comfortable with his sexuality and his potential relationship with Kongpope, even telling his friends about their relationship. In Sotus S, Krist's chracter was weak, timid, slightly insecure, afraid of what other's might think, and definitely not comfortable with himself, his sexuality and his relationship to Kongpope. Although, he showed courage during the last episode of Sotus S, I just didn't understand how his character could change so much in a couple of years (which is the timeline of the series). It seemed as if instead of his character progressing (after two years), that in fact his character regressed. I wonder how Sotus S and Our Skyy #5 would have been, if Krist's character were allowed to continue the progression started in Sotus; The Series????
I don't recall seeing this post. I'm sorry. If I had, I would've commented sooner. So, I will comment now, and hope someday you see it. The issue for me is not the "emotional" or "physical" actions of cheating; it remains the "trust" of the relationship. It should be (but, unfortunately not always so) that when you're in a committed relationship with someone, apart from the love that you have for that other person, there is the "trust" you have IN that other person. Trust that the person will treat you with love and respect; Trust that the person will not intentionally hurt or harm you; Trust that the person will be there for you as you are there for the other person; Trust that you're both in the relationship together; and Trust that when one person doesn't do the previous "trusts", Trust that the person will be honorable enough, respectful enough, or loving enough to be honest and upfront with you, so you have a more realistic way of getting through what may have occurred to threaten the "trust".
Although, as you've pointed out "it's just a BL drama for enjoyment", it did hit upon some realistic overtures in the LGBTQ+ community, and I think it would've been nice to see the writers and director handle the series with the idea of showing a more positive, instead of contrived, way gay couples could behave. In the series, the issue with Korn's cheating that bothered me was that he cheated, then lied about it, purposely planned with Cho to keep Knock from finding out, allowed everyone in their circle to know about the cheating (except Knock), and only confessed when someone else had told Knock. Even if it were possible that Korn "made a mistake" and slept with Pete, he willingly did everything else. Now, even with all of this, there is room for forgiveness. But, rebuilding "trust", that's a different issue entirely. I just would've like to have seen the writers treat that part of the relationship a little more realistically, and the series would've received a much higher rating from. me.
Interesting points as well. I can see how one would see K/K's first "encounter" that way....Korn probably was hornier than Knock...Lol But, in an drunken state, inhibitions are "softened" and resistance is "futile," (to coin a phrase from from one of my all time series, (Star Trek, the Next Generation -- Borg episodes). Also, in that same Ep. 1, remember, Korn wanted Knock to have "another drink" just before he moved in "for the kill." And, then of course the next day, you have Knock very upset at what he himself said about what Korn had done to him (basically accusing him of sexual assault, without actually accusing him). This kind of reaction is more typical of when you "don"t" want something to happen vs. wanting something to happen. Knock was obviously not happy with what happened the previous night, indicating to us the viewers, that either he didn't want "It" too happen, or he that he was feeling "confused," ashamed, or even possibly embarassed, and simply reacted. As viewers, we'll never actually know. However, was no indication that he consented to sex, especially given the next morning's reaction. But, I hear what you're saying and I guess I basically agree with it. LOL
P.S. I will miss these discussions and posts. TWMNC had generated some great discussions!!!!!
But, another point that I think is important, especially in BL dramas, is the issue of rape and sexual assault, and how it is glamorized as if it's a normal appropriate way for people to behave. The series portrayed Korn as an "innocent" individual, who simply made a mistake and should be forgiven. I have no problem with that. Forgiveness is a worthy trait all should subscribe to be able to provide. But, least we not forget, in TWM the series, Korn "took advantage" of Knock in a drunken state (review Ep. 1 for yourself). Knock did not ask nor encourage Korn to have sex with him. And, even if Knock was having identity issues related to his self discovery, Korn had absolutely NO right to take advantage of him, someone "he was suppose to care about." Then, boom, Korn and Knock start to fall in love.... Hmmm.... I wonder what would've happened with their relationship had Korn simply gone to sleep (instead of doing what he did)?
Now, unfortunately, I know that getting someone drunk so you can have sex with them is still a fairly common practice, even today. However, unlike previous generations, this kind of behavior is NOW a crime in many cultures, and I hope in Thai culture as well. Back to Korn and Knock. All I'm saying is this, if Korn really loved Knock, why get him drunk just to have sex with him? Where is the morality? It doesn't seem to be in the BL novels, and certainly not in the BL dramas.
Lmao! I agree with you all of the way!