idontwanttothanks

Will the dvd have subs?

It's definitely not. None of the scenes from the movie trailer have been in the drama.

The movie is absolutely going to be a continuation of s2, not a compilation.

I'm liking this. It's got a quietly melancholy feel that makes me worry about how it's going to end, but I still like it.

I am getting the sense that the biggest problem in the relationship was that they stopped talking. Ritsu got caught up in his work and was flighty, Fumiya stewed in silent resentment until it would burst out of him, Ritsu reacted to the anger by hiding even more...and so on. I like it, it's very realistic.

I'm actually not a fan of Fumiya trying to use the amnesia as an excuse to get back to what he and Ritsu were. Shuji is right, it's not a reset button.

Sure! Movie trailer is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDzVwXR-KCU

I don't think that this will wind up being a real break up, tbh. I think that Kiyoi will calm down and come back and maybe they'll actually talk but probably not. And the crack will be there to widen in the movie.

I think that if they wanted to cover even the majority of the second novel in the second season then they wouldn't have bothered with the two side stories in the first two eps. This is just setting us up for what's to come, imo.

Oh, isn't that the movie trailer? Because I remember that because it's my favorite scene from the 2nd book. I bet Yagi Yusei will act the hell out of it and I can't wait.

Also the photography thing is the last straw for Kiyoi in the novel, iirc (again it's been a while since I read it, the breakup and kidnapping/stabbing just stuck in my head because it's my entire jam).

We're definitely getting the photographer next ep. My bet (although again, I don't actually know I'm just guessing) is that Hira and Kiyoi will paper over their argument but it'll come back up during the movie, and that's when the real split will happen. Mostly because it kind of has to be Hira that walks away, I think, unless they're really going for a different approach (as opposed to Kiyoi not really wanting to break up so much as trying to make Hira wake up and fight for them for once).

Either way I'm looking forward to the next ep. I think this one was the best yet, and I hope episode four improves on it (while also making us all crazy to see the movie, of course :D)

Full disclosure I did not find Kiyoi unlikeable, but his reactions to Hira especially were more subtle, probably because we were deliberately being kept in Hira's viewpoint for the first four eps. While Kiyoi watching Hira is there if you look, he's way more open with him now and it's much more obvious that Hira's view of things is kinda messed up. It's honestly brilliant how well they're showcasing reality vs. Hira's head.

But we still have Anna's secret love, the agency pushing the Anna/Kiyoi "romance" to distract from said secret love, the photographer hiring Hira and the controversy that comes from that (when Hira says he doesn't want to photograph Kiyoi), them moving out together...

I mean it's entirely possible that they're just skipping all that. And I'm curious what trailer you are talking about because the only one I saw I don't recall showing anything that made me think that Hira gets stabbed during the series. Can you link it, please? Or tell me where to find it? I'd appreciate it! I only ever saw the first trailer from gaga.

I will say that I have read a synopsis of the third novel and I can't see that being the movie from the trailer. I guess they could be doing an entirely new thing though.

Oh I'm still here. I think I'll be here for pretty much ever <3

Pretty sure the movie is going to be the rest of the 2nd book. I haven't read the third one and it's been a while since I read the 2nd, but I don't think it covered a huge chunk. I don't remember Kiyoi storming out before the big fight towards the end, true (and then he wasn't the one to leave but Hira!), but I kinda assumed that that was put in to show where the main conflict is going to come from in the movie. I assume they're gonna smooth it over next ep but the cracks are gonna spread during the movie where we'll get the "break up" bit (and then my favorite part of the second novel, yay!).

Could be wrong, though!

Hira's doing the same thing here he did in the first season. He's wrapping himself so tightly in this belief that he doesn't deserve Kiyoi and so Kiyoi can't truly want him that it's almost become armor, insulating him from what he assumes is the inevitable when Kiyoi leaves. Of course, what he doesn't realize is that in doing so *he's* the one who has one foot out the door.

I'm not the biggest fan of second seasons because they always have to break up the main couple for stupid reasons so that they can try to recapture the magic or whatever, but I love this kind of thing. This makes sense with their personalities and their baggage - that stuff doesn't just go away because you're in love. It has to be actively worked on.

This episode was painful but I liked it a lot. It's setting up the main conflict that I assume will be in the movie quite nicely.

Here you go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDzVwXR-KCU

I think we might not get there until the movie, actually. This season seems to be just setting the stage for the meat of the second book, which is what the movie will be. There were definitely scenes in the movie trailer that looked to be from moving into their own place.

I think they're just gonna have his parents move back for work reasons, since that's why they moved away in the drama.

I really liked the first ep. I have been looking forward to this; for whatever reason the trailer gave me the same feeling I got from watching the trailer for Eternal Yesterday, and EY was hands down my favorite drama of 2022. And I'm so happy to see Suzuki Kosuke in a lead role - he was so great in Takara-kun & Amagi-kun.

Hopefully this one doesn't end badly, but I'm definitely strapped in for the ride even if it does.

I would just ignore it. People are gonna think how they think, and this drama in particular always has people who just *have* to say how toxic and wrong it is. Giving them attention only encourages them.

That said, there will come a point when Kiyoi stands up financially where Hira can't. And I think it's sweet to see him attempt to take care of Hira the way Hira takes care of him - he really is trying to be a good partner.

I also kind of thought Koyama was hilarious. Probably because he can't do much other than exactly what he did. So petty, and pettiness amuses me. Although I do think that he also cares about Hira and wants him happy. I just think that given the opportunity, he'll always choose to pick on Kiyoi, and that makes me laugh.

That plus up to six more months if you're not lucky enough to be in Japan and see it in cinemas...

This is messy and I am here for it.

I have to say, though that Heart and Li Ming are actually my favorite couple in this so far. This was unexpected as I don't actually like MSP (sacrilege, I know). But I look forward to their scenes most, followed by whenever Khao (and now First; I am having way too much fun watching Alan run around furious) pops up.

Overall I am liking this much much more than I expected to - it feels tight is well paced.

I'm talking about the scenes from season one. The one last ep was definitely from Kiyoi's POV, which is probably why it was obvious even without looking that Kiyoi was just waiting for Hira to say something so he could reciprocate properly. :D

It was from the visual companion.

There is a translation here: https://sparkling-rain.tumblr.com/post/674725337312149504/translation-kinmokusei-sweet-osmanthus

I will say what they took is a very small part of the whole - I only recognized it because they kept my favorite bit.

Those scenes were entirely from Hira's POV though, remember - although I do think they happened, I doubt we got everything as Hira would only focus on the parts that fit his view of his relationship with Kiyoi. Or at least that's how I'm handwaving it. :D

The beginning scene was from a side story - Sweet Osmanthus.

Oh, sorry. I don't think they outright said it or anything. But it's pretty clear during ep 2 if not before, I think. :)