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I didn't recognize him at first! Sometimes I still have a hard time believing it.

I 1 million % can't wait. I think they're gonna keep my favorite scene in the novel (well, shades of it - pretty sure it's part of the movie trailer) and I am all delight. The wait is going to be horrendous.

Likely we won't hear anything until closer to April, when it might be do for blu ray/DVD release

Eh, I kind of get where people are coming from, especially since it's too common for sequels to break the couple up immediately so they can work them back together over the rest of the episodes, and sometimes (often) it feels cheap. I also disagree that a breakup is needed in order to make plot happen.

That said, I love what happens in the 2nd novel *and* I love angst so I think that if they follow it closely (and I have no reason to believe otherwise) I think it might actually work for both the people who want happiness and angst lovers like me. :D I'm excited but this second season is just gonna make the wait for the movie even harder.

Thank you!

Just ignore the comments and make your own mind up. I rarely agree with people here, tbh and I'm having a lot of fun with this. *shrugs*

This drama caters to me particularly so well. The fun "does he love me or is he just doing what I say?" angst (which we've had shades of but I want more, more, more), the "let's put a time limit on our relationship", and Chopper.

Really just feed me angst, kisses, and Chopper and I'm happy. Yes, I'm easy, but I've come to terms with it. :)

is there a link? please and thank you!

So far no word, but the assumption right now is that it will be on both, since the first one was and since it's an MBS drama.

Sure! The free version on youtube leaves a *lot* out - I usually watch that day of and then wait for the Iqiyi version to show up on dramacool since I already have far too many subscriptions and just can't add another one.

There are two youtube versions - the on that you pay for is uncut, the other is not.

I enjoyed it a lot! I thought Win would be the one to say something first (and I guess in a way he did with the song - singing your feelings, a tried and true staple that I am not fond of, I admit. The second I saw that guitar though I braced myself and it could have been worse. And I got a chuckle out of Win calling out how off key Team was), but I'm glad it was Team instead. How's that for bravery? I also really liked him pointing out all the ways that Win takes care of others, and admitting his insecurities about not knowing Win as well as Win knows him/not taking care of him as well (although I don't think that's really true - Team clearly relished being able to take care of Win when he was sick, for one thing).

I am happy that we're only getting angst from one couple, and also that it's the couple I'm most interested in aside from Win/Team. Now that those two are all settled (no really I thought they were super adorable once they got it together, I hope for more of that next ep please) I can enjoy the drama coming from the Gamer Boys, which is as it should be, ha.

For me, this ep and episode 6 were the best of the series thus far. I thoroughly enjoyed every single minute. Well, okay. Maybe not the singing. :p

You'd think so, but people are weird.

Literally all I wanted from this drama was the "does he love me or is he just protecting me (and my heart)?" trope, perhaps with a side of "what if he only wants me because I'm the only one who's there?" from Palm. I am getting the first and I love it so much.

Well. Okay. I also want more Perth. Chopper is still my fave, sorry. But that's pretty much it.

I am jazzed and also confused and a tiny bit worried, ha.

If the trailer for the movie follows the second book (which it definitely seemed to), what the what is the 2nd season gonna be about.? Is it gonna be its own thing?

And are they gonna do the thing where they break them up at the end of the season and then I have to go quietly insane while I wait for the movie to go out on streaming and then wait for some kind soul to sub it (assuming it doesn't wind up on Viki or Gaga, that is)?

But also my mind is a steady stream of AAAAAAAAAAAAH (in a good way).

I just kid of figured that they'd go the obvious route. Because Chopper would be - considering his dad pushing him constantly and his painfully obvious, unrequited crush on Ben, I assumed that he would wind up going dark eventually. But I will he so happy to be proven wrong, because he has been so lovely so far and I don't want to lose that.

With the caveat that I have never seen UWMA and so have zero attachment to any of these characters or ideas about their relationship beyond this show, and keeping in mind that I really love a good mess... I liked it. Maybe because I too have been so afraid of losing something that I haven't held on properly.

To me, Win's hesitation makes sense. What is he supposed to say, that no, if Team gets tired of him he can't go, too late, you've bought it now there are no refunds?

Since I'm not taking the previous show into account, the constant one step forward, two back thing seems painfully real for two people who have a hard time communicating and all and also don't communicate the same way. Especially from two people who have so much baggage surrounding love and whether or not they can hold onto it (Win) or deserve it at all (Team). Although I do hope this particular miscommunication gets resolved quickly.

See, I definitely got the feeling that it was just his dad that he didn't want to know. Ben's pretty popular at school, doesn't seem to have any enemies. It probably just didn't occur to him that *Nueng* does, or that anyone would be that vindictive and cruel. I forgive it because he's a teenage boy with a crush and probably isn't thinking that far beyond that.

I totally agree that Nueng wanted to want Ben more than anything. I am very curious to see how he's gonna act with Palm now, because I agree too that Palm, he *does* want. He's already infinitely more flirty with him and finds basically any excuse to get up in his space, but there's also the whole issue of Nueng literally being his boss. Still, I don't want him as passive as he was with Ben.

The outing was extremely cruel, and I do think that it's more an attack on Nueng than Ben for sure. I assumed Chopper because that would be the obvious route, but I never liked it (makes no sense for how he's been acting this entire time) and I'm becoming more and more hopeful that it isn't going to be him. I hope we find out who it was soon though, and that they get some sort of comeuppance.

I mean, sure, but he probably wasn't thinking. I can't really fault him for that, either, because I've seen much older people do similar when they really should know better. Sometimes people just don't consider every possible consequence of their actions. Also to be fair to Ben it was a fairly secluded area and he thought they were alone. Unless they literally go into a closet that's true of pretty much anywhere they could meet.

I am not trying to say Nueng's feelings matter less, here. I'm only saying that I empathize with Ben's situation and I do feel that a lot of people, sympathizing as they do with Nueng, are forgetting that Ben is a whole person too, with flaws and issues and pain of his own. Neither of them exist in a vacuum. Of course we're meant to see things more from Nueng's POV, I think, so that doesn't help. And I did not say that Tanya is nicer so Nueng should take the blame. Nor will I. In my opinion there is no "blame" that should be taken for the kiss itself, and the fact that the principal and Ben's dad clearly disagree grosses me out a little. What I *did* say was that Nueng's far more secure in his mom's love than Ben seems to be with his dad, and he he still wanted to hide his relationship, so I honestly don't get why people can't seem to get why Ben would be eager to keep it hidden as well.

Again, I wish Ben had stood up, but I can also see why he didn't. He'll pay for it in the loss of his relationship with Nueng, because despite Chopper's optimism I highly doubt he'll get another chance. We'll see if he pays for it in other ways.

I'm not excusing Ben's behavior, I just think that some people are being a bit over the top in their criticism of it.

Sure, but possibly not when your father is sitting there browbeating you into it.

The lack of empathy here is kind of stunning.

ETA: Like I didn't even really warm up to Ben until ep 4, but I really felt for him in that scene. It seems fairly clear to me that the last thing that he wants to do is throw Nueng under the bus, and yes, I do agree that the fact that he did that was cowardly, but I can also understand it. I think it's grand that so many people here are so sure they would never, but the reality of his situation and his personality is different. And as for saying that he never should have started something if he couldn't be out...that's bugging me a lot. There are many many reasons for queer people not to be out, and I dislike the idea that that means that relationships should be closed to them. I really don't think either Ben or Nueng expected to be outed like this, and Nueng clearly has an entirely different relationship with his mom than Ben does with his dad and he was *still* hesitant about her finding out.

To be clear I don't think Ben was in the right. But I don't think he's exactly the worst person in this scenario, either.