What here feels like “terrible cultural appropriation”? sometimes some of you fans just say things without…
Such a hypocrite to pretend asking what is not appropriate about it while accuse me of "not thinking things through" with such immediate hostility. I have neither the obligation nor the interest in educating someone so lazy who cannot even google a movie in the original post that answered all the "what is off" questions. There are also so many movies of the time and documentaries that captured the walled city before its demolition, evidence of how this show did terribly in representing 80s Hong Kong in every aspect.
When a mainland Chinese production monetizes MY culture through a filter of fake nostalgia without even employing our voice actors, it isn't low budget, it’s a takeover of our narrative, it’s a imposed cultural representation. If you lack the political sensitivity to see why that’s offensive, perhaps you’re too emotionally attached to defend a fictional show to see the reality of the culture it’s exploiting.
I rather it set in a fictional city and let them speck Mandarin to have sync sound, than having the whole fake/imitated Hong Kong vibe. Terrible cultural appropriation.
There is nothing Hong Kong about it other than it being set in a place called Hong Kong. Not the look, not the fashion, not the architecture, not the interior design, not the actors, not even the Cantonese dub is in Hong Kong accent. Disappointed.
Go watch "Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In", that is the Kowloon Walled City created with cultural respect. The real deal Hong Kong.
I agree with what you said. I guess this is one of the downsides of watching shows from other cultures. A lot…
I don't see the benefit of waiting because I have seen myself doing that and figured that does not get me anywhere. I jumped right into learning Thai once I figured 1. how much time I spent reading the subtitle not seeing the acting, 2. finding out how unreliable official subtitles are, and 3. that I am interested in watching more Thai content and frustrated when I cannot find translations.
I am just self teaching at the moment. Found myself a site that has free proper progressive language courses that combines vocab, dialogue and grammar into chapters, plus Wiktionary. Maybe when I get better at it I will look for a language exchange partner.
I agree with what you said. I guess this is one of the downsides of watching shows from other cultures. A lot…
Oh I am unaware there are still fan translated versions. Definitely will look for them. I literately have been turning on dual sub, English and my native language, because I know neither of them is fully accurate.
Don't wait and start now. Pick the one that you are most curious in what they say or that you are most interested in the culture or that you believe you will keep watching their production. It is never too late. I am starting to learn Thai lately. I am very happy that I did because it helps me to grasp the nuance beyond what translation could provide.
I agree with what you said. I guess this is one of the downsides of watching shows from other cultures. A lot…
Back in the times of fan sub there would have been side notes along with the subtitles. I learn so much about Japan watching that it got me so interested in the culture I ended up learning the language to know more. I am glad that we are not pirating anymore. Sadly modern streaming service don't even bother doing a good subtitle let alone providing any extra information.
Tee Yai - Agreed that there is lack of insight to his decisions making process. I suspect that might have to do with Thais already being familiar with the character. We see that the main purpose of his planned robbery is to help the people around him. They robbed the bus looking to 'buy' Dao out of the brothel. He paid the doctor who treated Rerk and helped Joon paying Joon's mother's treatments. He agreed to the last robbery because Rerk wants a new live with Dao. We seldom see him doing anything for himself and we were never given a reason why he is this way. On top of that personally his sunglasses makes it even harder for me to read what he is thinking.
Dao - I think she finds Rerk naive to fall in love with her so early on, yet she is touched by now simple that is. She was abused at the brothel and Rerk was the one who gave her promises and hope. It is hard not to fall in love with Rerk,
Jakkrarat - I don't think he turned bad. Him questioning his superior tells me that he did this for justice. If you remember he also believed that keeping Tee in jail is the most appropriate punishment and killing him is not. I think he was lost in his desire to revenge and frustration of continues failure. He has lost many of his people that he took the chance to kill Tee out of personal reasons, and he regrets that.
Khit - His reasoning is really thin here. We only got 1 scene at the end that his dad brunt his drum. He must have deeper issue with his father but there is no exploration on that. But fair enough if we don't even have time for Tee why would there be plot for Khit.
I think this movie is way too short to tell comprehensive character stories and they should have focus more on the story of Tee. It feels like it is a story of Rerk for how little we know about Tee.
It is the first time I have watch Por and really like him in Shine. The performance in the fancon was unbelievably good too. Would love to watch much more from him.
idk why everyone’s denying it but it makes sense u compare it to kp. the assault scene following the bathroom…
Boring enough for you to keep replying apparently. I am very clear across all my comments that the similarities I found is not the vibe. It is funny how you keep failing to see that for being so preoccupied with defense to this show.
idk why everyone’s denying it but it makes sense u compare it to kp. the assault scene following the bathroom…
You are free to interpret what I meant in my comment. If that makes you think that I meant it copied KP, which I deliberately did not, that is because this idea exist in your mind when you are reading my words.
not really. If you see all bodyguard drama as the same, you'll have a big problem. KP is edgier, takes itself…
You are having a bigger problem if you think that I said they are similar because they are both bodyguard show. KP is edgier yes, serious debatable, but homophobic? What a bold claim. Did you actually watch the show? Homosexuality doesn't bother any of the main characters a bit. Who showed homophobia in KP if you can remind me?
When a mainland Chinese production monetizes MY culture through a filter of fake nostalgia without even employing our voice actors, it isn't low budget, it’s a takeover of our narrative, it’s a imposed cultural representation. If you lack the political sensitivity to see why that’s offensive, perhaps you’re too emotionally attached to defend a fictional show to see the reality of the culture it’s exploiting.
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There is nothing Hong Kong about it other than it being set in a place called Hong Kong. Not the look, not the fashion, not the architecture, not the interior design, not the actors, not even the Cantonese dub is in Hong Kong accent. Disappointed.
Go watch "Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In", that is the Kowloon Walled City created with cultural respect. The real deal Hong Kong.
I am just self teaching at the moment. Found myself a site that has free proper progressive language courses that combines vocab, dialogue and grammar into chapters, plus Wiktionary. Maybe when I get better at it I will look for a language exchange partner.
Don't wait and start now. Pick the one that you are most curious in what they say or that you are most interested in the culture or that you believe you will keep watching their production. It is never too late. I am starting to learn Thai lately. I am very happy that I did because it helps me to grasp the nuance beyond what translation could provide.
Dao - I think she finds Rerk naive to fall in love with her so early on, yet she is touched by now simple that is. She was abused at the brothel and Rerk was the one who gave her promises and hope. It is hard not to fall in love with Rerk,
Jakkrarat - I don't think he turned bad. Him questioning his superior tells me that he did this for justice. If you remember he also believed that keeping Tee in jail is the most appropriate punishment and killing him is not. I think he was lost in his desire to revenge and frustration of continues failure. He has lost many of his people that he took the chance to kill Tee out of personal reasons, and he regrets that.
Khit - His reasoning is really thin here. We only got 1 scene at the end that his dad brunt his drum. He must have deeper issue with his father but there is no exploration on that. But fair enough if we don't even have time for Tee why would there be plot for Khit.
I think this movie is way too short to tell comprehensive character stories and they should have focus more on the story of Tee. It feels like it is a story of Rerk for how little we know about Tee.
KP is edgier yes, serious debatable, but homophobic? What a bold claim. Did you actually watch the show? Homosexuality doesn't bother any of the main characters a bit. Who showed homophobia in KP if you can remind me?