Also, I think there is a 50/50 chance that he makes some kind of deal with the fiancee to help him take down Mundo.…
I really wanted SeGye and Seori to team up to take down mundo, since she is supposed to be this legendary court political tactician, and I feel that aligns better with the theme of second chances and regrets, like they couldn't take down the king in the past, but they will now. I will be annoyed if he teams up with finacee instead.
One last thought - as someone else pointed out in a comment thread - the comet passing means the souls are returned…
This just wouldn't make sense for the way the show has been presenting everything. The real shin seori hasn't been a factor AT ALL, so if she is back in joseon then who is shin seori's body? IT would just be crazy for the real seori to come back all of the sudden.
I think she won't be back in joseon for long and it's probably a dream induced from the coma, so she can resolve some things in the past in a way that allows her to move on.
Just when I praised this drama for avoiding most of the K-Drama tropes. And now this. And yes, this is right around…
In a standard plot arc the lowest point of the main characters should come around the 75% mark, which then forces them to finally overcome whatever internal or external issues were keeping them from their goal, and sets up for their ultimate triumph in the climax. So this happening right now is actually spot on.
The issue with most K dramas is they throw in this "low point" that feels lazy and unearned and doesn't really map to the themes or character arcs, like a random break up for silly reasons that they don't even really emotionally resolve and then handwave away, someone getting hurt and falling into a coma completely out of the blue in a way that doesn't make sense for the plot, etc.
That's not the case here though. They've shown pretty much the entire show that Mun Do would do whatever necessary, and that Che Se Gye was constantly underestimating him, and it was a fatal mistake for Se Gye. If he really wants to take down Mun Do he is going to have to fully lean in, not as a half breed chaebol trying to prove himself but a full chaebol who really deserves to be there.
They've also been foreshadowing from the beginning that the comet was only there for a short time, and a major theme of the show has been making the most of the time you have because you never know when you won't have that time anymore. And despite Seori realizing that she needs to just live her life instead of closing herself off, she was still struggling to put that into practice, which is why she wasn't with Se Gye that morning. Idk what Seori will do back in her past body, if she's even actually in her past body or it's just a coma dream, but it seems like this will force her to appreciate the second chance she was given and fully allow herself to live happily.
Tropes aren't bad by nature, they're just common patterns in stories, they're only bad when they are used lazily, which I don't feel is the case here. I mean we have to see how the rest of the story plays out tho. And this show has been able to handle the mix of comedy and serious super well from the beginning so there's no reason to believe they'll drop that humor now.
I literally just started the ep and the voicover talking about the comet, saying "for all we know it could leave us at any moment" NOOOOOO. I'm so scared to keep watching. I will cry if she transports back to Joseon time
btw I'm wondering why the rating not up yet? like 8.7?
There are people who watched like half an episode and gave it 1 star. IT'll go up as more people watch it, esp those waiting until the final week to binge
They better not use "breaking up" as a plot device in this drama, it's been too good to stoop to that.
I am BEGGING the writer not to do this. They've already like semi broken up from their budding relationship so many times. I need them to team up to take down Mundo
I NEEEEED her to just tell him how she feels, like this poor man. She had no right to slap him because everything he said is true . She should have told him about meeting Mundo, she shouldn't be playing games anymore. Her whole purpose that night was to be open, and she had the perfect opportunity to tell him he's wrong and ease his suffering, but instead her pride got in the way yet again. She frustrates me even tho I get why she's like this.
Se Gye talking about how he can handle the world cause it's all just chaos and he goes with the flow, he is the type not to question why he loves someone even if it doesn't make sense to him and instead to just love them. So him pouring his heart out there yet again, telling her even if she is just using him to at least be honest about it, hurt my heart for him. Like he can't not love her, she has so much power, and yet she can't even throw him a bone.
That final scene and the one between Se Gye and Mun Do were PEAK acting all around. Jang Seung Jo is really killing this role, I usually find unhinged sociopaths kinda cheesy or overdramatic, but he is actually terrifying in a very unnerving way. Yet I also find him so believable in moments where he's longing for his son or when he feels inferior.
i didn't start this earlier because I don't know male lead, now after watching Male lead is looking more and more…
It's been wild to watch over the course of like 3 weeks him go from people saying he shouldn't have been cast because he was gonna suck, to him being suprisingly charming, to everyone kinda losing their shiz over him.
Guys if you're thinking about watching youtube vids of Heo Nam Jun doing publicity or appearing on variety shows while waiting for the next eps to air DO NOT DO IT. .Nam Jun is sooo well-spoken, funny, charming and vibrant in real life, and even more attractive than Se Gye, like the man smiles sooooo much irl. I am SUFFERING. Don't make the same mistake I did.
I'm a huge fan of Jae Wook, but he's really uneven in the first ep. Feels like he's having a hard time nailing down Ji Ui as a character. At times he leans ALL the way into the neurotic and then other times not at all, and his gestures and expressions aren't consistent, and so the characterization feels really inconsistent and underdeveloped. It's like he can't decide which brand of awkward and weird Ji Ui , so he's just winging it every scene, throwing whatever out and hoping it stick, or sometimes forgetting and just acting like a normal dude.
I'll keep watching I just hope he can settle into the role better.
I think she won't be back in joseon for long and it's probably a dream induced from the coma, so she can resolve some things in the past in a way that allows her to move on.
The issue with most K dramas is they throw in this "low point" that feels lazy and unearned and doesn't really map to the themes or character arcs, like a random break up for silly reasons that they don't even really emotionally resolve and then handwave away, someone getting hurt and falling into a coma completely out of the blue in a way that doesn't make sense for the plot, etc.
That's not the case here though. They've shown pretty much the entire show that Mun Do would do whatever necessary, and that Che Se Gye was constantly underestimating him, and it was a fatal mistake for Se Gye. If he really wants to take down Mun Do he is going to have to fully lean in, not as a half breed chaebol trying to prove himself but a full chaebol who really deserves to be there.
They've also been foreshadowing from the beginning that the comet was only there for a short time, and a major theme of the show has been making the most of the time you have because you never know when you won't have that time anymore. And despite Seori realizing that she needs to just live her life instead of closing herself off, she was still struggling to put that into practice, which is why she wasn't with Se Gye that morning. Idk what Seori will do back in her past body, if she's even actually in her past body or it's just a coma dream, but it seems like this will force her to appreciate the second chance she was given and fully allow herself to live happily.
Tropes aren't bad by nature, they're just common patterns in stories, they're only bad when they are used lazily, which I don't feel is the case here. I mean we have to see how the rest of the story plays out tho. And this show has been able to handle the mix of comedy and serious super well from the beginning so there's no reason to believe they'll drop that humor now.
Se Gye talking about how he can handle the world cause it's all just chaos and he goes with the flow, he is the type not to question why he loves someone even if it doesn't make sense to him and instead to just love them. So him pouring his heart out there yet again, telling her even if she is just using him to at least be honest about it, hurt my heart for him. Like he can't not love her, she has so much power, and yet she can't even throw him a bone.
That final scene and the one between Se Gye and Mun Do were PEAK acting all around. Jang Seung Jo is really killing this role, I usually find unhinged sociopaths kinda cheesy or overdramatic, but he is actually terrifying in a very unnerving way. Yet I also find him so believable in moments where he's longing for his son or when he feels inferior.
It would be actually so fun if a writer did this with on of their past sad historical dramas.
I'll keep watching I just hope he can settle into the role better.