jarabaa

That's an interesting point of view. WHY is it not right to call this series 'BL'? Does the fact that it's a woman's heart transplanted into a man's body mean that we should see this as a heterosexual love story? Or do you think that it's impossible for a male/male romance to be a "beautiful, romantic, finding-self story"?

Thanks for making an effort to arrive at more accurate information about heart transplants. The first transplants were in the 1960s, not exactly ancient history, and most people who have had them have been middle-aged to elderly - so not very likely to live many decades even if they were in the very best of health! As you point out, about 50 per cent get to the 10-year mark and many last a lot longer than that. If a patient survives the first year after the operation, then the average life-expectancy is 13.5 years. In fact, the current statistics for heart transplants compare well against a whole range of other medical interventions. The reality is that a lot of people who receive complex, sophisticated operations are people who are .... guess what, very ill and very vulnerable.

The fact of the matter is, there are people reading these comments who may have serious heart disease or who may have close relatives facing a heart transplant, so let's think of transplant patients and give them a little encouragement - rather than consigning them to an early grave.

Brilliant observation. I too wish we had more occasion in this series to admire the inspector's ... inherent qualities. Or rather, for him to display them to an admiring doctor. Indeed.

Hmmmm. Well, I wrote the "original comment". First of all, I appreciate "creative work" - and what it costs. I subscribe to Netflix and Amazon Prime already, plus I pay money to this website, kisskh. Secondly, I am not sure what "entitled" is supposed to mean - it's clearly intended as a rather sneering put-down - but in reality I actually pay for the products of "creative labour" which I choose to enjoy - I don't go around stealing them. Third, I am well aware that many sites feature illegal pirated copies of the things I want to watch, and I choose not to patronise those sites.

In this case, though, WeTV was actually represented as the official site - not an "illegal link" - and it was described as being "free". And then suddenly it was no longer free. Yet above, under "Where To Watch Manner of Death", it is still described as "free". So I am disturbed that WeTV is called free when it's not, and I likewise absolutely do not like the way WeTV offered a number of episodes free of cost to viewers everywhere, for months, since the beginning of the series - and then suddenly, only a few days ago, turned several of these into pay-for "VIP" products.

With regard to "I Told Sunset About You", I was above all dismayed to find out that the only way anyone can get a look at the series is to pay for a shockingly brief short-term rental (30 days only, then it's gone) via Vimeo. I entirely believe in paying for the products of artistic labour. I buy books, I don't steal them. I also pay for digital recordings, DVDs, theatre tickets, magazine subscriptions, and to be a patron of museums where I live (London). But - rental?? For a mere 30 days?? I've never heard of such a thing. ITSAY is an outstanding series - of course it's reasonable to pay for it - but it's not reasonable to pay for a short-term rental.

Finally, there seems to be no end to the proliferation of sites one has to pay to in order to watch the series featured here on this wonderful MDL site. In fact, Amazon Prime and Netflix bring no advantages - none of these Asian series (e.g. Manner of Death or ITSAY) can be accessed by Amazon Prime or Netflix, to the best of my knowledge. The only access is via a whole plethora of different "official" websites - WeTV is one among many. There's LINETV, there's GMMTV, there's Crunchyroll. And so on. In the case of Thailand alone, and only one genre - m/m romance - we're dealing with numerous companies all selling different types of subscriptions. Plus Vimeo rental now! I am uncomfortable with the notion of being obliged to go on and on paying to diverse and competing production companies and websites (which come and go).

My goodness me. The reviews and the comments here are absolutely ALL OVER THE PLACE. Wow. Ranging from total detestation to the warmest admiration. Some reviewers give it a series of 1.5s and 2s and 3s, others award it 9.5 and 10. And people argue their side pretty persuasively too. Plus, most ... provokingly? bizarrely? ... viewers detest and admire precisely the same features.

I myself abandoned the series and walked away several weeks ago. But I think I'll give it a go once again. A break creates distance - I realise I'm not so bothered by things like differences from series 1, implausible plotting, etc. And I don't mind gratuitous sex, when it's Mew + Gulf, fine by me.

Endless lockdown creates ... boredom ... curiosity ... forbearance ... desperation!

From the beginning, this has sounded like an interesting series to follow. But how? The only viewing link given here is WeTV, falsely described as "free". It isn't free. You have to pay to be a VIP member to watch "Manner of Death". Sort of like the way Nadao locked "I Told Sunset About You" up in a crazy plus expensive short-term Vimeo rental arrangement. It's as though these companies wish to actively prevent overseas viewers from having access to their products. Bizarre. Some sort of new trend? It'll make life difficult here at My Drama List if more and more series become impossible to watch.

You're so right. It's now impossible to follow this series. Only VIP "paying customers" are allowed to see it. What's going on?

Exactly. Where on earth can we watch this? "WeTV" is a subscription service that costs a lot of money. Again, we have a production company (like Nadao in the case of "I Told Sunset About You") which seems keen to prevent the word from seeing its product. I don't get it.

This is a series which I began watching with ... some misgivings (more lovelorn engineering students at a Bangkok university? an invisible off-screen partner for one of the lead characters?) and rather low expectations. I feel I can understand the negative and critical comments from disaffected viewers. I think about their complaints quite a bit - meandering, unfocused plot, too many couples, unnecessary sideplots, overzealous product placement, too much mopey melancholy Wayu.

BUT. I admit it. I've grown to love Gen Y. I think this is because as a gay man I - speaking utterly personally - have been so starved of images and stories of same-sex romance throughout my life. Whether fictional romance is like "reality" is not the point; I guess I'm not here for a stark depiction of everyday reality. Though I'm pleased to testify that I've known lots of m/m romance and"fluff" in my own real life and so I don't dismiss such material as fantasy. Anyhow, I think episode 9 was my high point. I LOVED the tender dialogue in bed between Mark and Kit; I LOVED seeing the two boys visit the temple and connect their love with their spiritual/religious tradition in such a whole and natural way; I LOVED the way Thanu and Phai finally crossed each other's paths and were seized by rather lyrical visions of their ... (at least possible) destiny. Loved every moment. How rarely in my life have I seen love between men represented in such beautiful scenes: that's my unreflected, spontaneous response. Naive? Starry-eyed. Hmmmm. I'm no baby - obviously. I've known plenty of loss and tragedy. But ... it strikes me that yes, those three scenes were not only dreamy pink-cloud sequences - they also reminded me of long-ago real situations with real men in my own real existence. Anyhow, I'm grateful to Gen Y for creating these fictional moments in January 2021.

Plus - so far - no malevolent unknown ex-girlfriends suddenly popping out of the woodwork, no homophobic parents on the rampage, no leading man announcing that he has no interest in men at all but is only in love with one unique male individual - etc. Quite nice not to run into those overworked plot devices. Or have I spoken too soon?

So true. Wonderful cast, engaging characters, good start. Mega disastrous nosedive into the depths. Ugly, toxic, ludicrous - on and on and on, no change. Just craziness. And such a tragedy to see the waste of these fine actors!

Exactly. Well said. And yes, once you watch ep 8, believe me, you'll be more livid.

So right, 100%. Breaks my heart. Such a beautiful man, an actor one wants to follow. And that's precisely why I started watching this series.

He was perfect in DBK. I think back to P'Sun very fondly ... a wonderful role. His interesting, complex, evolving relationship with Mork, played by another fine actor.

Maybe he saw this as a challenge. And it was a main role, not a secondary or support role. But it was a bit of a disaster, sadly. Perhaps the character of Tonhon could have been written in a way that made him compelling, sympathetic. It would have required some profound character development, real movement in the life of this man, a spectacular breakthrough or an exciting emotional journey which could have really fascinated and moved the viewer. But we had none of that, nothing.

So right.

You said it! 100% agree. I gave up watching some episodes ago, but checked this page to see if there had been any improvements - seemingly No. Such a pity, as you say, that these fine actors have ALL been obliged to play crazy self-hating gay boys in a weird script which makes no sense. A very unfunny violent homophobic fanatic and three sweet, intelligent young gay men all desperately pretending they're straight in order to placate Mr Crazy Bigot. It's sad to read that everything remains the same, utterly unchanged, as late as episode 7. And yet we all love these actors...

Further to my promise to find out more, I did some research, and found out: The singer goes by the names "Pantherist" & "Panther". His actual name is Sirivut Swangpiriyakij. He has a YouTube channel - which doesn't mention this song! I have found the name of the song transliterated as "Gee het pon tee hai ruk" , meaning approximately "How many reasons make me love you?" My own favourite line, which I love to anticipate, is the beginning of the refrain: "I still wonder what made me fall in love with you" - "Yung song sai arai tum hai rak gun".

Thank you so much. Absolutely - you've got it - precisely! THAT is the song I had in mind. I love it. Thanks again for the link. I'll now try to find out some more about the song - and the singer.

Many point out that this series is a bit of a mess. Hmmmm. I know what they mean. All sorts of couples, real and potential. Weird stuff (kissing someone so hard he bleeds? what was that about??) Silly scenes galore - e.g. much of the contest for Wayu's fair hand. Too many bland, impersonal sets plus random footage of Bangkok traffic etc.

But ... at the same time: NO unknown malevolent ex-"girlfriends" suddenly parachuted into the plot[s]. Truly COUNTLESS young guys who are super into romancing other boys - intensively, round the clock - without a care in their heads. (A fantasy, even at a Thai engineering faculty, I'm sure, but as I imagine it, a world or even a university of wall-to-wall m/m romance + flirtation would be so much lovelier than our all-too-real violent, dreary world of men fighting and killing each other.) NOT one boy announcing "I feel no attraction to males whatsoever, I'm only interested in this one individual who happens to be male"). NO fire-breathing homophobic relatives. NO ONE in any sort of closet that I can see.

It's a fantasy, it can be silly, it's a bit of a mess in some regards, but I LIKE it.

So true. You hit the nail on the head. 100%. They do indeed have a unique energy, it's both sweet/romantic and sexy. Like you, yep, I'll watch any project with these two. Amen.

Meanwhile, what is "their" song? We heard it through Why R U. It's a bright, catchy number, yet at the same time sweet and romantic and not overly shallow. We hear it for instance when they're getting affectionate in the kitchen towards the end of ep 2. The first line seems to mean something like "I used to wonder why we love each other". Who can tell us more about this cute song?

Love it love it love it. I don't care how cheesy or fluffy. As I like to point out from time to time, "cheese" and fluff actually reflect reality as much as other things (conflict, loss, confusion etc) do. But these two are just so compelling together. Riveting. Both sweet and sexy. As a gay man, I find their eroticism real and appealing. That is, it's hot. I can imagine them tearing each other's clothes off. As well as cuddling and canoodling just about anywhere because they can't keep their hands off each other. A very, very real predicament. Believe me.