One of my big takeaways from watching episode 1 is that Gong Seungyeon should do more serious sageuk dramas. I…
I agree with you, I wish we had seen more of her in the past, she was just mesmerizing! The same goes for Sang Un, she was so beautiful and intriguing when she was Bulgasal
I believe that he not only gave his soul to him, but his family followed it, Detective Kwon was his father, Shi…
OMG you're right ! I quite didn't understand how Eul Tae's father 1000 years ago became Hwal's adoptive father 600 years ago! And I completely forgot about the red thread in Shi Ho's hair... It makes sense now!
lemme try my best to explain from what i understood, 1 about OET being obsessed with hwal, initially it was his…
Oh yeah I see what you mean! It would have been a great "breather" to include the events from the past at EP 12 or so, because it wasn't a big enough reveal to take place in the last EP...
lemme try my best to explain from what i understood, 1 about OET being obsessed with hwal, initially it was his…
On the contrary I thought he was shown hating her even when he was alone, so maybe I really need to re watch the show ^^' I don't remember what happens in EP 12 but I do agree that they should have explained the 1000 years ago events much sooner, but like you said they wanted to attract many viewers... It was a difficult thing to keep the mystery until the end
You made a perfect summary of all the things that I didn't understand during the drama! The only thing that I…
I see what you mean. I would have liked it better also if we had a better understanding of Hwal and Sang Un's relationship 1000 years ago. And it would have been interesting to see their origins (were they the only pair of bulgasal in korea? What did they eat ? Just animals ? Why did Sang Un have yellow/golden eyes while Hwal have red eyes? I kinda thought it was like in Twilight in which the "good" vampires only drink animal's blood (yellow eyes) and the "bad" drink human's blood (red eyes)) Also for a moment I even thought that Hwal was in fact the brother that Eul Tae killed, even if it didn't make much sense. It was just to find a deeper meaning behind all this. Because his affection for the detective was comprehensible, and I guess it was also the case for Do Yoon, but for Hwal it was just too much too fast... Maybe we want to make sense of something that is purely fantastical, so the writers didn't bother to properly deliver a strong backstory... But again, someone in the comments below didn't find any "plot holes" (I don't know if it's the correct term) so I guess it all depends on our personal understanding of the story...
You made a perfect summary of all the things that I didn't understand during the drama! The only thing that I…
Yeah I also thought about a possible love triangle in the past (well I'm a sucker for this type of story with a forbidden/impossible love between a "good person" and a more antagonistic figure, unfortunately this thought didn't last for long haha) If you want another perspective on why he wanted her dead, I already posted a little before you and someone kindly replied to my questions! The thing that I still don't understand is the reason why Eul Tae acted like it was Sang Un who forced this never ending pain upon him... I guess it was to better manipulate Hwal but it seemed like he really resented her even when he was shown alone like in his house for example (why still act like that when there's no one around to manipulate?) And I feel like at first he acted like he had a clear plan to stop the pain but in the end not really..? I don't know, I feel like there's a clear distinction between the way he acted during the beginning and middle of the drama to make the viewer "intrigued" by him and the real motivations behind that, it all kinda felt flat in the end... I completely agree that many assumptions were made concerning Eul Tae's obsession with Hwal and him finding things that he couldn't possibly have known when he was just a human, but I guess the writers thought that the viewers would find a reason for all that on their own... The humans in the past seemed to vaguely know about the Bulgasal before these events but even then it was more of a legend/myth than a reality for them... So maybe Eul Tae did more research on the subject after his transformation...
You made a perfect summary of all the things that I didn't understand during the drama! The only thing that I…
The main thing that I regret about this drama is that we didn't get to see a deeper relationship between the 3 of them in the past. I wanted to see epic tales of betrayal and love to form a solid base to all the deaths and mysteries that occured then during 1000 years! But in the end it was just a coincidental meeting between Hwal and Eul Tae that really started this whole ordeal...
lemme try my best to explain from what i understood, 1 about OET being obsessed with hwal, initially it was his…
Thank you so much for your kind reply !! You succeeded in clearing some of my questioning concerning Ok Eul Tae's motivations, even if I still would have liked it better if the writers took a longer time to fully show and explain what happened 1000 years ago and the direct aftermath of it because I still think that the story relies on some assumptions... Also Eul Tae spoke so harshly against Sang Un during the whole drama that I expected a bigger reason for his hatred (and conversely his obsession for Hwal)... I expected the reveal of a grand betrayal that would make me go "ahhh so that's why he resents her so much" and some deeper relationship between him and Hwal (at some point I even thought that Hwal was the brother he killed lol I admit my guess was quickly refuted) But what you said makes sense. Maybe I will watch it again one day to see if I can better understand the more subtile things!
It was good. I wished they explained more things in the end? Also...as Bulgasal pairs they had no interaction…
You made a perfect summary of all the things that I didn't understand during the drama! The only thing that I (maybe) could explain concerns the "hurt me, you'll get hurt too" thing that tied together Sang Un and Ok Eul Tae. If I remember correctly, I think it was Sang Un's twin that "cursed" the two of them in order to protect her against his future attacks. But I still don't understand why he wanted her dead so much... Because it was Hwal who made him half bulgasal with the dark hole, Sang Un didn't interact with him at all... Well Eul Tae seems to believe all of this is her fault (in a way it is but he seemed to act like she had a personal relationship with him in the past) but if she didn't care for the children and protected them during their confrontation with him, then he wouldn't even know she existed and thus he wouldn't have met Hwal either...
Yeah, usually kdramas with such a premise don't end well, unless it's a campy romcom, where everything is a farce.
Yes I will wait until I can ask for spoilers, I can't stand tragic ending when the drama doesn't clearly show (or at least give some clues) that it can end badly... And here the genres are "comedy romance drama" so it's kinda paradoxal... Unless you're right and they will play the card of the sudden happy ending that doesn't really make sense, if so why bother making a drama with this kind of topic in the first place... At any rate thank you for your kind replies ! :)
Yeah, usually kdramas with such a premise don't end well, unless it's a campy romcom, where everything is a farce.
I see what you mean... I really hope the tags will be changed accordingly if it's really tragic, but again I don't see how they will change the whole "imminent death thing" to a simple ploy... Or maybe they will use a shaman or something like that to deliver the news, if it's the case then there's still hope but if it's a real doctor it will be difficult to ignore :/
Yeah, usually kdramas with such a premise don't end well, unless it's a campy romcom, where everything is a farce.
Thank you for your reply! I didn't read the synopsis correctly, I only focused on the tags ^^' But it sure is strange to use these terms in the synopsis if it's not true at the end... I guess we'll see!
Yeah, usually kdramas with such a premise don't end well, unless it's a campy romcom, where everything is a farce.
Ah well nevermind... I didn't see the sentence "when she is told she doesn’t have much time to live"... lol now I understand why you both think it will have a sad ending ^^'
Yeah, usually kdramas with such a premise don't end well, unless it's a campy romcom, where everything is a farce.
@Night Bird @Normie92 Could you maybe give me examples of the others dramas with the same premsie that didn't end well please ? I'm surprised that you both agreed on this because I don't see why this one in particular will have a sad ending so I'm kinda worried now... I thought it would be more like "What's wrong with secretaty Kim" and other shows of the same "vibes" with the secretary trope
(I already posted this comment way back in the feed but I wanted to see if maybe some of you could answer some…
I also couldn't understand the lack of tension and seriousness that the characters desplayed while being chased during the whole middle of the drama by the big bad villain... I understand the characters need to eat, sleep, and watch Tv but it seemed so out of reality with the matters at stake! Especially during a scene when they all know that Eul Tae will come to their hideout but they (Sang Un and Shi Ho) still decide to stay inside the house and make one do the laundry while the other hides in the closet ? The worst is that it actually worked and the villain was fooled! I usually like the use of "filler" scenes because it's a great way to develop the relationships between the characters but in this drama it was way too much and the pacing was affected because of that
(I already posted this comment way back in the feed but I wanted to see if maybe some of you could answer some questions I had)
So I clearly loved the premise of the show (the "vibes" of it like the cinematography, the OST, the folklore with tales of betrayal, love, monsters, curses...) but the biggest disappointment for me was the villain. The writers introduced him as a highly intelligent and cunning character (in fact his charisma was a big factor in me liking the show more than I objectively can say lol I can't resist a good and stylish villain so thank you Lee Joon) but all his theatrics were just for show and illogical in the end... I can't understand his obsession with Hwal at all and I clearly wish they took more time to develop his backstory because like someone already said in the comments before he wanted power but why was he so lovesick and obsessed with Hwal was a complete mystery. I think it greatly diminished the meaning and impact of the whole show because he was a big factor in all of this happening and his actions in the past required so much more reasoning than a simple "coincidental" meeting with Hwal that lasted for 5min max...
In fact, I'm sure that if we took the time to re watch the drama from the beginning, all the depth behind his lines would be nullified. How could he have known the history between Hwal and Sang Un when they were bulgasal ? Why did he say Hwal had a one-sided love ? How could he have known Sang Un abandoned Hwal to care for the children? If he was the one who killed his family, why was Sang Un also present, which resulted in Hwal transforming into Bulgasal? Why did he wait 600 years to approach Hwal again if he was so obsessed with him from the beginning? Why did he have so much hate towards Sang Un when in fact it was Hwal who gave him the dark hole and thus his never-ending pain? Just because he was jealous, he wanted to kill her during every reincarnation she had? Or did he think her death would result in him becoming fully bulgasal ? If so how ?
The bottom line to all that is that I just can't understand his reasons/motivations at the end. All these questions and not many answers were given unfortunately. Well I still liked the drama but I simply wished the writers took more time to explain these things. It's also possible that I missed some important informations during the show so if someone can take the time to reply, I would very much appreciate it! :)
Woww I absolutely love the way you summed it all up, I completely agree with you. I had the same reaction watching…
I completely agree with both comments here... I clearly loved the premise of the show (the "vibes" of it like the cinematography, the OST, the folklore with tales of betrayal, love, monsters, curses...) but the biggest disappointment for me was the villain. The writers introduced him as a highly intelligent and cunning character (in fact his charisma was a big factor in me liking the show more than I objectively can say lol I can't resist a good and stylish villain so thank you Lee Joon) but all his theatrics were just for show and illogical in the end... I can't understand his obsession with Hwal at all, I clearly wish they took more time to develop his backstory because like you already said @Dohee he wanted power but why was he so lovesick and obsessed with Hwal was a complete mystery. It diminished the meaning of the whole show because he was a big factor in all of this happening and his actions in the past required so much more reasoning than a simple "coincidental" meeting with Hwal that lasted for 5min... In fact, I'm sure that if we took the time to re watch the drama from the beginning, all the depth behind his lines would be nullified. How could he have known the history between Hwal and Sang Un when they were bulgasal ? Why did he say Hwal had a one-sided love ? If he was the one who killed his family, why was Sang Un present, which resulted in Hwal transforming into Bulgasal? Why did he wait 600 years to approach Hwal again if he was so obsessed with him from the beginning? Why did he have so much hate towards Sang Un when in fact it was Hwal who gave him the dark hole and thus his never-ending pain? Just because he was jealous, he wanted to kill her during every reincarnation she had? I just can't understand his reasons at the end... All these questions and not many answers were given unfortunately
Also for a moment I even thought that Hwal was in fact the brother that Eul Tae killed, even if it didn't make much sense. It was just to find a deeper meaning behind all this. Because his affection for the detective was comprehensible, and I guess it was also the case for Do Yoon, but for Hwal it was just too much too fast... Maybe we want to make sense of something that is purely fantastical, so the writers didn't bother to properly deliver a strong backstory... But again, someone in the comments below didn't find any "plot holes" (I don't know if it's the correct term) so I guess it all depends on our personal understanding of the story...
The thing that I still don't understand is the reason why Eul Tae acted like it was Sang Un who forced this never ending pain upon him... I guess it was to better manipulate Hwal but it seemed like he really resented her even when he was shown alone like in his house for example (why still act like that when there's no one around to manipulate?) And I feel like at first he acted like he had a clear plan to stop the pain but in the end not really..? I don't know, I feel like there's a clear distinction between the way he acted during the beginning and middle of the drama to make the viewer "intrigued" by him and the real motivations behind that, it all kinda felt flat in the end...
I completely agree that many assumptions were made concerning Eul Tae's obsession with Hwal and him finding things that he couldn't possibly have known when he was just a human, but I guess the writers thought that the viewers would find a reason for all that on their own... The humans in the past seemed to vaguely know about the Bulgasal before these events but even then it was more of a legend/myth than a reality for them... So maybe Eul Tae did more research on the subject after his transformation...
So I clearly loved the premise of the show (the "vibes" of it like the cinematography, the OST, the folklore with tales of betrayal, love, monsters, curses...) but the biggest disappointment for me was the villain. The writers introduced him as a highly intelligent and cunning character (in fact his charisma was a big factor in me liking the show more than I objectively can say lol I can't resist a good and stylish villain so thank you Lee Joon) but all his theatrics were just for show and illogical in the end... I can't understand his obsession with Hwal at all and I clearly wish they took more time to develop his backstory because like someone already said in the comments before he wanted power but why was he so lovesick and obsessed with Hwal was a complete mystery. I think it greatly diminished the meaning and impact of the whole show because he was a big factor in all of this happening and his actions in the past required so much more reasoning than a simple "coincidental" meeting with Hwal that lasted for 5min max...
In fact, I'm sure that if we took the time to re watch the drama from the beginning, all the depth behind his lines would be nullified. How could he have known the history between Hwal and Sang Un when they were bulgasal ? Why did he say Hwal had a one-sided love ? How could he have known Sang Un abandoned Hwal to care for the children? If he was the one who killed his family, why was Sang Un also present, which resulted in Hwal transforming into Bulgasal? Why did he wait 600 years to approach Hwal again if he was so obsessed with him from the beginning? Why did he have so much hate towards Sang Un when in fact it was Hwal who gave him the dark hole and thus his never-ending pain? Just because he was jealous, he wanted to kill her during every reincarnation she had? Or did he think her death would result in him becoming fully bulgasal ? If so how ?
The bottom line to all that is that I just can't understand his reasons/motivations at the end. All these questions and not many answers were given unfortunately. Well I still liked the drama but I simply wished the writers took more time to explain these things. It's also possible that I missed some important informations during the show so if someone can take the time to reply, I would very much appreciate it! :)