JoJo

"A very small number of people with Alzheimer disease have the early-onset form."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/alzheimers-disease/earlyonset-alzheimer-disease


It's more common on people over 65. I was talking about dementia not just Alzheimer's.
I was saying it's not the norm to have dementia when so young. I didn't denied it happened, I do know it happens but it certainly is not the norm in these illnesses.

You treat patients with EARLY onset Alzheimer's so it is in the norm in your case. I was referring to the overall people who get dementia not just the ones who get it early in life.

You don't know anything about my relationship with the illness and I don't have to disclose it.

Can we talk about how a 43yo actress is playing someone who is supposed to have dementia?
I know some cases of dementia happen in younger people but it's absolutely not the norm.
I can't even tell how old her character is supposed to be.

And they're treating dementia as something you can get better from. Dementia is not a cold. People with dementia can't promise not to forget something. They'll eventually forget everything even how to talk, walk and eat in some cases. This seems very disrespectful and just straight lack of research to portray this illness like this. I don't know if I prefer this or when they portray dementia as regression to childhood.

It's sad they think +35yo want cheesy and poetic...
Sigh
I found it too annoying at times and too cheesy overall.

OMG! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
That's exactly it, gay people are starved for representation and that can lead to watching almost anything. The difference is that adults with some life experience will have a different perspective and context that young people might not have.
That's why I'm so demanding with all genres of media, they influence young and older people and model the relationships they'll have and the standards they might apply even subconsciously. We need better media if we're going to prepare a better world for young people not to go through the same trauma we did! I'm sure I wouldn't have entertained so many of my relationships if I knew that was not how a relationship was supposed to be and hadn't been told to ignore almost all red flags that showed me I would be entering a toxic relationship.
Gay representation was even more scarce so I had to deal with that part of myself only very recently.
This drama reminded me of the James Charles ordeal and how that can be taxing for young gays and even put them in danger. Green was lucky that guy isn't a homophobe which in turn just turns Green into an abuser trying to force a relationship where they were told no several times. I'm sure we can do better than this and we don't have to rely on toxic traits to have comedy. Comedy can't be a justification for abuse.
That's why I decided to start writing my own LGBT stories. I'm starting with a BL story that isn't centered on "coming out" and isn't a tragic story, just a regular story where the characters happen to be gay or find out they're gay. It probably won't have much humour since I'm mostly sarcastic but we'll see! Maybe one day it will end up turned into a drama if it proves good or popular enough! A girl can dream! Haha

FORCE!! There you go! The only word I will emphasize. You can't force someone to see/be/confront something they don't want to.

You have your interpretation of the drama, I have mine. Every person is entitled to their own interpretation.

I don't have a gaydar, I respect the way people wish to present themselves to me and try not to assume anyone's orientation, not even characters in a series.

You can choose to dismiss stereotypes that are clear to me that your bias might not let you see and I choose to dismiss the ones you presented me.

Assuming he's gay just because he's not homophobic and treats guys like humans is not a good premise imho.

He says he's straight and I'm sure he hasn't discovered his bi judging from the way he looks at the bass player (I'm not even going to retain the names because I'm not gonna continue watching it) and the way he tried to make excuses to meet him. That would be sufficient to portray his preference and closetedness instead of offering a caricature of what women can be, reinforcing once more these stereotypes. Do you know how many times I listen from men the "you're not like other girls" line? It's not a compliment and it's a symptom of girls being portrayed exactly like this drama did.

It's not my intention to ruin the drama for anyone, I really hope you enjoy the drama and if it makes you feel good, that's great. I just want to pass my message across because I think it's equally important.

I've said everything I had to say about this and i think I've explained my point of view extensively.

You have your reasons and your understanding and it's always good to point them out, I don't agree with everything you said but i understand why you said it!

I'm thinking of publishing them on Tapas and maybe on wattpad since the genre is popular there too. For now I've only created a patreon where I'm sharing part of the creative process and where I'll share the VERY hot stuff.

It doesn't have a lot there yet and a lot might change too, I haven't been spreading the word because of that, I've been waiting to have more on there but I'll leave the link if you'd like to take a look http://bit.ly/joanaspatreon

Thank you for your comments anyway, I have taken what you said into consideration. I've read everything everyone has said to me today and I might not agree with many things but I've read it and pondered on it.

I'm trying to do something and I'm trying even more than that. I have started writing my own BL and LGBT stories.

From what I can tell, what pushes people towards these stories is the connection between two people, the sex and the vulnerability. At least, that's what I can gather. It's completely possible to have that and represent healthy relationships, I've seen it done before even in BL.

From what I've seen so far (episode 1) it's toxic to gay people as well. You might have representation but do you really need representation that completely disregards a person's nature?

The guy is represented as straight. His view of women is as a straight man. If he's really a straight man and views women like that it's bad. My take is that they're trying to tell people (like it has been done/implied in other Thai BL) they get fed up of women and go gay, that's not how gay works or no woman would be heterosexual. That's how I saw it and that's how I've seen it portrayed before and it's my opinion on it.

You see an abusive gay man trying to get a straight man to date him (at this point we only know he's straight). You see that straight man trying to drug the gay guy to escape him? How is that comedy? I don't get it.

It's ok for someone to be gay or bi and not realise it yet. It can take a long time for someone to realise they're gay. It's not ok for a gay person to push themselves onto someone who isn't into them and has specifically told them no several times.

I know that shows don't need to educate people all the time but there's a difference between educating and making a joke of serious issues that get people killed.

You can still have your show and enjoy it and I can still voice my opinion on it.

So, people agree with what I say and recognise the problems I'm addressing but can't get past the fact I'm an "angry feminist".
I've been addressing these issues for decades, I am tired.
My objective isn't to convert anyone, it's to give feedback about something I care about and probably get some sparks going on the minds of people who might already be questioning but don't know if their concerns are valid.

I'm not calling anyone stupid and if you read my replies, I talk about internalised misogyny and how these stories are like this from learned behaviours and unhealthy expectations being pushed on to women by society and the media. There are plenty of stories like this and we need to push them to do better so society can progress as well. We can't expect girls to know that jealousy isn't a sign of love if we keep on showing them that in almost every show.

I think that people need better relationship models to aspire to and better stories that serve as a frame or maybe even benchmark for the ones they'll have in their lives.
It's all about education, educating people for healthy relationships, educating them on gay visibility and exposing them to different ways of existing. You can do that with humour without having to demean anyone or present caricatures of people. I really believe that.

Have you ever heard of internalised misogyny? Who do you think has ran most of the publications directed towards women and have set those impossible statuses? Who are the main photographers and retouchers that create unreal standards and women who basically don't exist?
Intergenerational trauma is also a thing, with our mothers having an unhealthy relationship with their bodies and passing it up to us.
Society sets up women for competition since birth, saying how a good men is hard to find and basically throwing us all against each other when it's the other way around.
I believe in young girls and I believe we can make their future easier for them by pushing for better stories.

I do know some fans are in it for superficial reasons but I refuse to believe that if they were presented good plots and good writing they wouldn't buy it.

The HIStory series is a great example of that. If we can do that, we can do so much more. Having actual queer women and people writing queer stories is the way to educate and entertain at the same time, at least that's my goal.

In these series, the reviews have been very real and you see people aren't satisfied, if we keep pushing this will stop being the go-to plot and things will evolve.

I don't need to have a PHD on Thai BL to know or point when something is sending the wrong/unhealthy message. I've watched enough to know what are the basic tropes and I don't want to see them perpetuated since they're harmful.

I understand it perfectly! I said what I said and I stand by it. You don't need to make comedy by demeaning women.

Ohh! And bras are expensive! I'm certainly not burning those! Lol

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Where did I say ALL? I said the majority! The majority is not all, your bias is showing. #notallmen

There's something called internalised misogyny and those works are a sign of that.

If wanting healthy relationships and calling out what's wrong in the media makes me a bra-burning feminist, so be it!

@brad_8 I do know most BL writers are women at least in Japanese Yaoi culture and have pushed many unhealthy relationship models on to young girls that internalised them as "true love" because it's what they have learned and experienced. We end up internalising these models in such a way that we dismiss important signs that tell us that the relationships we're in are abusive.
I did notice that many Thai BL had male writers, I didn't check for this one. I was talking about the media in general, most writers in general media are men. This happens in all genres, not just BL. That's why domestic violence is so worrying all around the world.

This is why I started writing BL, I want to show young girls and women that there can be stories with healthy relationships and by commenting on here I'm also hoping to raise awareness about this so that girls don't have to go through what I have and so many women still do.

The nerd, she only cares about studying, if that's so why did she enter a relationship in the first place? Why reduce her like that?
The "self-absorbed" that takes selfies all the time.
The indecisive that doesn't know what to order but doesn't want whatever he suggests. She probably only eats salads because that's all women eat.
The "crazy" girlfriend that gets mad for no reason and will probably stab him for no reason at all.
The one who only like designer brands and extorts designer bags from the bf.

How isn't this bad? These are things men talk about women all the time to tell us it's all we are. These are the main representations of women in the media not because we're like this but because it's all we ever see in the media and how men think we are. (Since most of the writers are men)

I get the "you're not like other girls" all the time because men don't even take time to talk to women and find out how we are. It's not a compliment to hear this and it's not true at all. This show just ads to this and makes it worse because it drives a supposedly straight guy into "turning gay". The message women make men gay doesn't seem like a good one (especially because that's not how homosexuality works).

I hope you can open up your horizons and connect with women on a deeper level without prejudice.
It starts with us women leaving our ideas the media and society has told us we are and with trying to diversify the women we keep in contact with.
I suggest going deeper into the topics you like and try to talk with women there. I'm sure a new world will open up to you.

They're reductive and harmful. They're resorting to stereotypes that have been hurting women and putting them in position to be abused in relationships. Men by seeing this think women are just that, women by seeing this think society might be right when they treat them like they do, we actually are vain, clingy, hysterical and crazy.
What a way to show young people that relationships can be healthy and women can have other dimensions! Ugh!

Can you just say you hate women and go?
Why have all these negative stereotypes about women to justify why a "straight" guy would start dating men?
A gay guy who harasses a straight guy and throws him into the arms of a guy he will love?

It's one thing to not realise you're gay or bi but you can do that without pushing harmful stereotypes and behaviours.

So now we're giving terminal illnesses to AI?
Haven't we suffered enough?

This drama is too long, too boring and doesn't make sense. It's not for me.