Well it could also mean that they just want to improve her skin. I would be mad if the girl got plastic surgery…
So you just made it worse by implying darker skin is unhealthy?? White skin is not about healthcare. This drama is not about healthcare. The Asian beauty culture is influenced by western models of beauty, beauty all over the world is influenced by Western beauty ideals. Making someone's skin healthier doesn't remove melanin, if it does it's an abrasive method and it shouldn't be done. You can't deny the prevalence of whitening products in Asia. They don't propose healthier skin, they propose whiter skin. She gets more confident because she now falls in line with what they call beautiful, not because she's confident in herself, she's confident the image others see of her is accepted by them. There's a difference. I hope you don't have to see many of these dramas and don't have to be too exposed to western models of beauty and get Asian models that look like you for representation. With wider representation of what women can be and how they can look like we'll have healthier and more confident women without them having to change themselves towards an ideal very few can achieve.
So, another drama that tells women and girls that they are not beautiful the way they naturally are and sells the skin whitening and girls with glasses trope! I don't need this in my life, no woman or girl does. They didn't even apply makeup in her arms when she's answering the phone at some point and you can clearly see the difference from her face to her arms. Why not hire an actress with darker skin and let people enjoy different types of beauty instead of telling everyone they need to be extremely white?
I just started watching this and I think I have found the Korean Edward Scissorhands. Even the background music is similar. I don't know how I feel about this.
I became a nurse partially thanks to a kdrama soooooo hahaahha
It doesn't matter if it's deep or not. Most times you see offensive stuff being passed down as a joke as means of perpetuating behaviours that aren't acceptable in society anymore. You can still be fine and enjoy your drama and I can still voice my opinion on it. My medical knowledge shouldn't even be a factor here. No, it's not my profession and yes I know the environment very well. You can be unbothered all you want and just leave my bothered comment alone.
TBH, there were two ways to take this line. You took the route that it was disrespecting nurses, I however, thought…
My parents are healthcare professionals, I grew up in this environment. I know the practical implications of perpetuating this hierarchy. It might seem like a small detail but it has an overall effect on the way society views the medical staff. Dramas aren't just a source of entertainment, they shape the way we view the world and that should always be taken into consideration. I watched up close the rage of my Japanese friends when the scandal of the Japanese university who refused women because they are women broke. One of my friends was one of them. The smart doctor Vs dumb nurse is a tired trope that has awful consequences in real life. I read the message this way even if it wasn't their intention and I'm voicing my concerns so that they do better in the future and account for their message to be taken in different ways.
I became a nurse partially thanks to a kdrama soooooo hahaahha
It's not off topic, it's all linked. The details of a story have broader implications you can't just reduce to a reason someone chose to follow a profession. You have to see how they have framed that profession in the drama (caring for nurses vs saving for doctors) and you have to see the implications that surround those professions in the country that drama is from. This might affect someone else's decision just like it has affected yours. Having a romantic/on a whim purpose and framing it as a profession for caring is pushing the idea that women are nurturers and are only marriage oriented which is very patronising and reductive. You might not see it as I do, you might think I'm overreacting as well, which can be normal. My comments are direct mainly at the authors/producers to do better next time and think about all the implications and if that also makes someone else think about this subject more, it's good as well.
I became a nurse partially thanks to a kdrama soooooo hahaahha
I judge the examples we provide people. That's why this app gives us the opportunity to write reviews. These type of dramas keep showing women outdated social models and expectations. I'm not ok with that. When in Japan you have universities that actively refuse students (especially medicine students) with the sole reason of them being women, telling them they're not cut out for medical life, I think we can do better with providing them examples and motivation for their life.
I became a nurse partially thanks to a kdrama soooooo hahaahha
It's one thing to be inspired by a piece of art and it's a completely different thing to follow a path just to chase a guy you saw once so that you see him again and "win his love".
I agree with you. I have not watched it yet but I am not sure I want to after reading your comment and watching…
It's exactly that. It's just such a tired trope. I used to roll my eyes a lot when watching itazura na kiss (I watched the drama version.... ????) But I just don't even have the stomach to watch this one and I absolutely love Sato Takeru.
"the doctor cures the illness but the nurse looks after people"
I don't think this person has ever been to a hospital. It's so demeaning to talk about the nursing profession like this. They're not just doctor appendixes. They have very important roles and do so much. They (doctors, nurses and auxiliary people) are a team that help cure people and look after them. This perpetuates the damn hierarchy that helps treat nurses as less of a professional and helps them having less rights and less pay. Put the doctors alone for one day and see how many people they can "cure". Even the cleaning personnel has such an important role within a hospital. They're partially responsible for avoiding illnesses to spread. All medical personnel should be treated equally and with more respect than these type of dramas represent. I really hate the message this drama is sending. It's very harmful.
He still jogs the same route. She could just go to the same place to find him again. Yes, becoming a nurse because you have a crush on someone seems like such a wise decision. ????
You should remake the last episode. Have him in an accident, accidents happen but he doesn't have to die and leave…
I hope the actors don't get discouraged by all this negative feedback, it's not their fault, they were excellent. Everything was excellent except for the last episode.
You should remake the last episode. Have him in an accident, accidents happen but he doesn't have to die and leave Xiang Hao Ting completely destroyed inside. It's not progressive to kill off characters just because it's poetic. Pain isn't poetic, it's part of life and shouldn't be romanticised. It should fit the story and not just have a last episode that seems to be from a completely different series. It doesn't make sense. Ending it at episode 8, with an open ending, would make much more sense. I'm going to stay mad at this for a long time and I'm not going to watch the episode fully at all. I am in my own mourning process and can't deal with this. I need hope and this isn't giving me any so I'm just not going to watch it. It's not healing or a life lesson when you have to destroy someone's spirit completely to achieve it.
I sensed it from the last episode's ending but thought you wouldn't go all the way.... I can't watch the last episode. HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME???!!
White skin is not about healthcare. This drama is not about healthcare. The Asian beauty culture is influenced by western models of beauty, beauty all over the world is influenced by Western beauty ideals. Making someone's skin healthier doesn't remove melanin, if it does it's an abrasive method and it shouldn't be done. You can't deny the prevalence of whitening products in Asia. They don't propose healthier skin, they propose whiter skin.
She gets more confident because she now falls in line with what they call beautiful, not because she's confident in herself, she's confident the image others see of her is accepted by them. There's a difference.
I hope you don't have to see many of these dramas and don't have to be too exposed to western models of beauty and get Asian models that look like you for representation. With wider representation of what women can be and how they can look like we'll have healthier and more confident women without them having to change themselves towards an ideal very few can achieve.
This might be an interesting article about this https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/society/article/2184747/asias-addiction-whiter-skin-runs-deep-backlash-has-begun
They didn't even apply makeup in her arms when she's answering the phone at some point and you can clearly see the difference from her face to her arms. Why not hire an actress with darker skin and let people enjoy different types of beauty instead of telling everyone they need to be extremely white?
You can still be fine and enjoy your drama and I can still voice my opinion on it.
My medical knowledge shouldn't even be a factor here. No, it's not my profession and yes I know the environment very well.
You can be unbothered all you want and just leave my bothered comment alone.
I watched up close the rage of my Japanese friends when the scandal of the Japanese university who refused women because they are women broke. One of my friends was one of them. The smart doctor Vs dumb nurse is a tired trope that has awful consequences in real life.
I read the message this way even if it wasn't their intention and I'm voicing my concerns so that they do better in the future and account for their message to be taken in different ways.
Having a romantic/on a whim purpose and framing it as a profession for caring is pushing the idea that women are nurturers and are only marriage oriented which is very patronising and reductive.
You might not see it as I do, you might think I'm overreacting as well, which can be normal. My comments are direct mainly at the authors/producers to do better next time and think about all the implications and if that also makes someone else think about this subject more, it's good as well.
I don't think this person has ever been to a hospital. It's so demeaning to talk about the nursing profession like this. They're not just doctor appendixes. They have very important roles and do so much. They (doctors, nurses and auxiliary people) are a team that help cure people and look after them. This perpetuates the damn hierarchy that helps treat nurses as less of a professional and helps them having less rights and less pay. Put the doctors alone for one day and see how many people they can "cure". Even the cleaning personnel has such an important role within a hospital. They're partially responsible for avoiding illnesses to spread. All medical personnel should be treated equally and with more respect than these type of dramas represent.
I really hate the message this drama is sending. It's very harmful.
Everything was excellent except for the last episode.
It's not progressive to kill off characters just because it's poetic. Pain isn't poetic, it's part of life and shouldn't be romanticised. It should fit the story and not just have a last episode that seems to be from a completely different series. It doesn't make sense. Ending it at episode 8, with an open ending, would make much more sense.
I'm going to stay mad at this for a long time and I'm not going to watch the episode fully at all. I am in my own mourning process and can't deal with this. I need hope and this isn't giving me any so I'm just not going to watch it. It's not healing or a life lesson when you have to destroy someone's spirit completely to achieve it.
I can't watch the last episode.
HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME???!!