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Please not that the below is a reasoned argument and that I am not typing this in anger.

Yes, YJ did deliberately plan it and carry it out. If I slap you in the face, I've committed assault and battery, but I haven't murdered you. My problem with these discussions is that it's always all or nothing. Either 1) there's absolutely explit verbalized consent, or 2) it was rape.

YJ can have done something wrong without it being labelled rape. The entire premise of YJ's plan and - his premise is 100% correct, which we can acknowledge without approving of where he took it - was that XS wants him to but will not act upon it, so he needed to lower his inhbitions so that XS WOULD do something he WANTED to do but felt he SHOULD not. (All caps because there're no italics here.)

XS says explicitly the next morning that he's afraid YJ sensed XS wanted him, and so did it because of their authority relationship, i.e. YJ was coerced by XS's power in the relationship, which, incidentally, is the method with which I and a very large proportion of people who have been sexually assaulted or raped.

So he's admitting he wants YJ. But many people here have been in complete denial about this, I presume because it makes them uncomfortable, or that believing that that's not true conveniently shaves some grey off the situation, but I don't really know.

I have not once said YJ is innocent - he is patently NOT innocent, what he did was incredibly wrong. I have said that what he did was not rape because XS was inebiated, not impared, which is an abolutely critical destinction - one made explicitly by almost every state on the planet and in international accords to protect women's rights.

So let's look at the definition impared and see which boxes are checked for XS

Inability to understand, know, think: No
Inability to respond or communicate coherently: No
Inability to remember experiences: No
Inability to resist (physical or verbal): No.

So no symptoms of imparement.

Intoxication is more subjective, and we can obviously only judge by visual clues (for example reduction of pain is not something we can see).

Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) up tp 0.2% - 4-5 drinks in a one hour period:

Loss of motor functions - unknown, but I'll say yes. It doesn't have to be loss of all motor functions.
Boisterousness - No
Over-expressed (loudly) emotion: No
Nausea & vomiting: No.
Slurred speech: No.
Erectile dysfunction: No (received oral sex)
Gross motor skill impairment: No (grabbed YJ around the neck and pulled him in for a kiss).

XS doesn't even qualify for this level.

I see no basis for calling this a rape. This was a devious, manipulative, incredibly long-term planned seduction. He has horrendously betrayed XS's trust, and his behavior to me indicates he's mentally disturbed with an impared understanding of right and wrong.

If YJ wanted to rape XS, it would have been much easier than spending 10 years earning all that money, learning bartending, etc. He could have just slipped him a rape drug and there we are.

But that would have defeated his purpose - which was to lower XS's inhibitions to allow him to let free his love of YJ. He was careful to make him drunk enough to lower his inhibitions, but not drunk enough to be impaired and not remember what they did. XS even checked onscreen to make sure YL was not impared.

Yes, I'm so excited for that! I thought Tee's acting improved over the course of this, and Nut is highly experienced.

Remember that Nite said Que Bhu wasn't Tae's soulmate, and he would have known if he himself was - so it makes sense if someone else was, although they obviously hadn't planned it that way. What they should have done is give Tee a haircut and dye his hair back to black and filmed a scene where Nite II has some business with Namwhan and inserted it early on (and gives Tae a look), and that would have tied it all in nicely instead of being so random.

Thank you so much!

I'm not watching it. Or I'll wait until it's on somewhere... else. I' believe in supporting series but not if they're going to be dicks about it. I'm not excited enough about this to be bothered, and I kind of hope it's a big failure so nobody does something this stupid again. Do they honestly think it's not going to be pirated? They've made it more likely, not less, and they've likely stripped away many or most people's inhibitions against watching illegally.

There's something to be said for the contrast - it was interesting to see Tae as the pursuer with Nite I and the pursued with Nite II.

I'm sure they meant Nite I to be the endgame, but this worked fine.

I totally get it. COVID apparently interrupted the production and not all the actors were available when they resumed. They did the best they could with it, but it's hard to switch gears like that and satisfy everyone. I like Nite II better than Nite I, so I was fine with the ending, and I was mostly watching because I think Tae is super-attractive so it worked for me.

Thanks - I always love learning more context. It would be incredibly rude my American standards, so it's hard to connect to. It would probably cause some people to commit suicide or violent acts as well.

Wow, I'm super impressed. Thank you for this!

I missed this somehow, but it really made me laugh. We will definitely need you for this project. You can make sure Tae is always in the freshest kicks. And preferably in nothing else.

If you still want to know, he ends up with a new character who is introduced around two thirds through, who is in most people's opinion cuter, more charming, and a better actor than Nite. I really liked it.

I think what happened is COVID messed everything up, and not all the actors were available when they resumed production. I loved the resolution, if that means anything.

The last ep is normal length and is really sweet.

I really liked Nite II. If they'd cast him from the beginning the show would have been really compelling.

Tae & Nite II. It's very sweet, but if you're stuck on Nite I (and I wouldn't blame you), he's not in it at all, except in flashbacks.

I loved it. It's not great, but it has a lot of great qualities. I'll write a detailed review for you today.

Wait, did Tak just rape a ghost to teach her a lesson? That's kind of awful. Even though she wanted to have sex with him, he thought he was raping her for crossing him. That's... wow.

I watched it. There is a LOT of bullying. But none of it is homophobic, which is a nice change,. In fact the lead bully seems to openly be the ex of the boy he's bullying, if the subtitles are correct, and the reason isn't about their relationship, it's about an unrelated legal matter.

Do they follow the couple around sqeaking annoyingly at a very loud volume and focus their efforts on shipping boys who are not gay or not in a couple, though? BL Fujoshis seem to exist only as "comic" relief. Rather than what we normally see I would love to see a fully realized fujoshi character, like in The Shipper or the sister in Nation's Brother (hey, maybe there's a correlation there as it's a Vietamese production!)

Hello again! The look Xavier gives at the end of Ep 5 when he says "it's for you" could melt 10' of solid steel. I thought Tony was a tad irregular, but the amount of love, longing, and insecurity he put into that look literally made me unable to breathe, and I think I was in shock for 10 minutes, because I did not see that coming. There's a strange fan war between this series and Gameboys that I don't understand - I'm not sure how people get so partisan over light entertainment. This is not a zero-sum game - both can be successful without hurting the other in any way. Quite the opposite - having 2 quality BLs as the Philippines entry into the BL world was good for all of BL

Just as a clarification, and your criticism is totaly valid since it was not clear and that's on the editing, Xavier asked the teacher for Mico between ep 1 & 2, so it was the accidental quiz night that sparked his interest. Also, Xavier was not at all a confident gay - I don't think he actually is gay, and he didn't really understand his feelings for MIko until close to the end of the series. I liked the show, but I did see a lot of the flaws you point out - they didn't seem any worse to me that all the other BLs, so I guess it didn't bother me as much.