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I totally agree. 2Gether worked until ep 6 and then the rest I could have skipped and missed nothing. If your actors are too homophobic to even hug, then get different actors. Drake is so sexy he can put 10 times more into a single smirk than everything Bright has ever done.

And 'My Day' makes 'Amore' look like Shakespeare. It's not like the Philippines can't produce good BL - Hello Stranger is my favorite of all time. But wow, My Day and Amore... and My Day looks like it has a big budget, so there's no excuse.

I can't tell you what it feels like to read this. It's like I've been sitting in a suffocating, hot, humid room and someone turned on the air conditioner and handed me a margarita. Everyone keeps going on about how genuine this was and the chemistry - hunh? What young new couple spends two weeks apart and then just sits and talks? They built up the tension of their being apart and then instead of a beautiful romantic pop we got a slow leak until the balloon was flat.

But genuine as friends, not lovers. I'm more affectionate with a bf after not seeing him all day while we're at work. After 2 weeks apart he gets thrown against the wall and ravaged the second he walks in (or preferably the other way 'round).

I see lots of chemistry as friends, but none as romantic partners. No adult couple that loves each other is that totally lacking in physical affection - especially after being apart for two weeks. Sorry, but this was so bloodless and lacking in passion that I didn't buy them as a couple at all. I wish I had a best friend like that, but as a love pair - that's what people behave like when they're in their 50s after being together for 30 years, not 19-year olds in a new relationship.

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying, but in real life, when you love someone and they love you back, you want to touch them. You hug and kiss when you haven't seen each other for two weeks. I don't believe for even a second that these two are a romantic couple. This series to me was aimed at 12-year olds, maybe younger - it's been a waste of time for me.

I think people are assigning more value to looks than they're admitting. Dean was classic tall, dark & handsome, and Pharm was ridiculously cute. I think it's possible that people also feel that emotionally manipulative is good (i.e. "I felt something, so the story is good"), and crying = good acting. Convincing crying can certainly can be good acting, but any actor can cry.

Also, I think people are influenced a lot by actors' engagement with the fans in social media - that's the only explanation I can come up with for all the Saint-love. When I was reading all the comments gushing over him during WhyRU, I was thinking "Are you watching the same thing I am?"

To me the family dynamic was the most compelling thing in UWMA and I quickly got bored of Pharm's 12-year old early-Victorian virgin act. Have you ever met a college-aged man (or woman for that matter) that thinks a kiss on the cheek is swoon-worthy? At that age, if names are even exchanged before sex that counts as romantic. Also, there was about 1 hour of plot and 16 hours of people wordlessly staring at each other and walking around very, very slowly.

The narrative was straight-forward, but I think it was a mistake to show the suicide in the first minutes. If the two stories were told concurrently, the death and reveal of who is who could have been the best and hardest-hitting dramatic moment of all time, and maybe I could have invested in the earlier relationship, which I didn't really care about since I knew in advance what would happen.

I liked SOTUS at the time, because it was the first BL I watched, so it was something new for me. In retrospect it's fairly average, and the sequel series was pointless and ruined my appreciation for the first series.

I couldn't get through UWMA - I don't understand why everyone loved it so much.

The age of consent in Thailand is 15, so not technically pedophilia - you should be 16 in 10th grade. I feel like we need separate words for desiring children, which is disgusting and evil, and desiring young adolescents, which is very wrong if acted upon (but in my opinion not monstrous and psychopathic like it would be with a pre-pubescent). We can understand it, but most of us can put aside those feelings or channel them into non-physical love, which Pob did here, or at least that's how I interpreted it. We're biologically programmed to feel attraction to people who've hit puberty, so our rejection of adult-minor relations is a societal construct - but a very good and necessary one.

In short, I wasn't uncomfortable at all - in this case only. If it had been people that just met it would have been creepy as f#$%..

I have to be fair, this show has some amazing shots. The ghost scene at the opening of Ep 2 part 4 is one of the most beautiful scenes I've even seen, let along in a BL. If there were more of that, and the beautifully done kissing scene, this would be an awesome show. We were always taught "show, don't tell". You can't get around that by showing people telling - there are way, way too many scenes of people sitting around talking.

EDIT: OK, so ep 3 has the most explicit sex scene I've ever seen in a BL - even more than TharnType - I'm surprised it wasn't censored. It was good, too - very natural and realistic. And yet not at all pornographic - it was definitely a love scene, and romantically shot.

What's confusing? It's a simple enemies to lovers murder mystery roommates to lovers lesbian fake boyfriend to real boyfriend ghost story.

I think I'm following it, but it is a bit of effort. Some of the characters don't act like normal people - like wouldn't meeting A GHOST kind of upend your world? That guy took it so casually. Sure, the ghost is cute, but still...

Hmm. I watched it three times, then looked on YouTube for other trailers - I didn't see any hint of gay = which trailer are you referencing and what's the time stamp? I didn't even see another man except in the photos that flashed.

What? Of course they should be expected to accept an apology! What's the purpose of apologizing if nobody is going to accept it? If there's a pattern of behavior, then maybe the apology is insincere and can be rejected, but making one poor-taste joke 3 years ago is not unforgivable by a reasonable person. Nobody said "Hitler is my personal hero" or "all gay people should be killed".

Me too, and I'm a guy!

A show about fashion design, modeling, and makeup artistry with no gay characters. Hard pass. Korea needs to get over it's homophobia.

Maybe they were daughters or girlfriends of the producers or something. At least if they were funny or advanced the plot I could have dealt - but it neither was the case.

We'll just have to wait and see. All you've discussed above I can live with and dismiss as a young person with a major crush - you can be overeager at that age. But what I can't get around is how he called someone to bribe the drama teacher, and the guy he called looked upset - there's something really non-kosher going on there. Maybe he's just a rich kid, and what he did isn't as disturbing by Philippine standards, but it looks very sinister to an American.

There is a superficial aspect to attraction - it's inevitable and hard-coded in our genes. Being attracted to superficial characteristics doesn't make someone superficial, which is a pretty judgy thing to say. It's only superficial if you care about nothing else. I don't think Marky is sexy as f#$% because of his looks, although that's part of it - objectively he's short and not classically attractive, wears braces, etc, and I might not give him a second glance purely on looks - it's also his personality and attitude.

If there is fluidity, then any label, even if there are more of them, can still make people feel apart, perhaps even more so, as before "q" covered everything not in the "main" catagories, and now you can fail to fit into 50 gender identities. There's a point where you're deliberately setting yourself apart by atomizing gender identity to this point, and in any case the very definitions depend on heteronormative social constructs to make any sense. For example, what is a demiboy? Who decides what it means to be partially a boy and/or partially masculine? The idea of masculinity is a heteronormative social contruct, so the very term demiboy seems to me to be self-defeating. Figuring out who you are doesn't depend on minute variations of gender labels, and in fact I think it can make self-discovery more confusing and self-limiting.

Likewise, finding a group based on a label is judgmental in itself, and divides and excludes rather than bringing people together. I've gotten eye-rolls from non-heterosexuals because I identify as 100% gay male, as if that means I just don't understand gender identity.

I still think it's a phase - but I didn't mean to imply it's negative or "he's in a phase where he won't eat vegetables" if that's what it sounded like - anything that tears down heterosexism is a positive. Maybe I should have said "transition" as I think all these distinctions will become pointless and unecessary in the future - I didn't mean that everything will go back to how it was. We'll probably also view meat-eating in 50 years like we view slavery now, thinking it unbelievable that we could have been so degenerate as to eat other living, feeling creatures.