And I'm really tired of the mansplaining and 'moral' virtual signaling going on and your false equivalence and…
Ah, the ‘Feminist Inquisition’ has arrived, complete with its rigorous standards of what constitutes acceptable criticism. Clearly, my observation that the FL’s behavior was questionable is an affront to your grand vision of female perfection in dramas. How silly of me to suggest that female characters might be flawed or that we might critique them without risking eternal damnation from the ‘Virtue Squad.’
And, of course, your insightful comparison to the ‘millennia-old tradition’ of male writers—how quaint. It’s refreshing to know that any critique of female characters is automatically deemed ‘chauvinistic’ while praising the flawless femininity parade is the new gold standard. I’ll make sure to follow your ‘enlightened’ guide to feminism: only critique male characters, and do so with the same reverence as one would discuss a saintly figure.
Thank you for the tip to avoid channels that depict morally ambiguous characters—obviously, they don’t align with your idealized, unblemished portrayals. I’ll be sure to uphold this ‘pioneering’ perspective that seems to redefine feminism as an endless celebration of flawless female leads. Bravo on your mission to preserve the sanctity of female characters at all costs!
And I'm really tired of the mansplaining and 'moral' virtual signaling going on and your false equivalence and…
Oh great, another pseudo-feminist triggered by my sensible comment. Apparently, pointing out a flaw in a female character now makes me anti-woman. Should I also be labeled anti-man then? After all, I called out the ML in Destined With You for being a red flag, cheating on his GF and kissing the FL without even breaking up properly with the SFL.
It’s funny how MLs are often criticized for the tiniest things, but when FLs act poorly, it’s suddenly celebrated. For the last 4-5 years, pseudo-feminists like you have caused actual feminists from the past to roll in their graves, watching how their fight for equality has turned out. They wanted equal rights and representation, but thanks to your version of "feminism," FLs now get a free pass to have multiple guys flirting with them, touching them, all while they're still in a relationship (fake or not), and then act surprised when the ML gets upset. And of course, the ML has to comfort the FL for being upset! But if the ML so much as *talks* to another girl? Oh no, now the FL’s jealous and demanding an apology.
This year alone, how many "virgin simp" MLs have we seen pining over a 10-20-year-old crush, while FLs get to have an ex-boyfriend and more? Just take Love Next Door as an example. When the ML's ex was introduced, viewers on Twitter and YouTube were comparing him to the "perfect green flag" MLs from Lovely Runner, As Beautiful As You, and My Sweet Monster, criticizing him for not being honest with his crush, even though he took a realistic approach to move on. And who wrote these characters? Female writers, of course, who want their FLs constantly surrounded by beautiful males. Because nothing says female empowerment quite like portraying FLs this way.
Don't let these two people gaslight you. You are correct in your criticism of the FL for her actions of falsely…
Actually, I don’t get gaslighted that easily. I’ve been on MDL for over five years and seen much more toxic comments, so the comments from these young, immature users don’t really affect me. You’re right, though—these days, anything passes as romance, and we’re expected to just accept it. It seems like some people haven’t seen the impact fake rape and fake domestic violence cases have on men, which is why they remain so ignorant about it. Anyway, thanks for your support! It’s great to see some sensible female viewers out there who watch dramas with a neutral perspective.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Oh, I get it now—you must have skipped the subtitles and were too engrossed in staring at the characters to catch any actual dialogue. That would certainly explain your unique take on what was said. Maybe a vision test is in order, or perhaps a tutorial on how to watch and listen simultaneously. On a side note, one of your comment said "Ji told her that she shouldn't do anything and Mr Yu is dealing with it,and she'll only make matters worse. Essentially to stay put.". I didn't see you explaining when did Ji say that she will only make matters worse and should essentially stay put.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
I think you’re not understanding my points. I had mentioned many issues about the whole situation, but it seems like we’re just going round and round. Even if they weren’t family, as in my example, they were still not strangers. They spent some time together and were familiar with each other. Just because she struggles doesn’t mean she can use him as a ladder—it's not right. You can't excuse her behavior by saying she doesn’t know the law of Yong; lying in front of official authorities is something everyone knows is wrong. Her past circumstances don’t excuse her behavior. It’s like saying that because someone comes from an abusive household, they have the right to take revenge on the world.
I don’t understand how she can’t know the consequences of her actions when multiple women from noble houses were harmed by the fake rouge. You also didn’t address what would happen if the genders were reversed or how female characters in this drama sometimes bully males. You also didn’t provide a concrete reason for why she didn’t show any effort to bail him out and instead just went round and round about her struggles and how she is very naive.
Let’s close our debate here, as it’s clear we won’t be able to make each other understand our points.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Oh, I'm sorry I had no idea you could read characters' minds and uncover their unspoken thoughts. Maybe you were the secret writer of the drama, since you seem to know everything that wasn’t actually said! 🤭
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Bro, are we watching the same drama or different ones? Mr. Ji just closed the trunk filled with money because he was at work and was probably worried about being implicated for taking a bribe from A Shu. Also, he only told her that "Mr. Yu has his own plans for Yun Mo" and nothing else. Where did you see him saying that she shouldn't involve herself?
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Suppose someone in your family is in prison for a false case, and a third person tells you they will ensure the person gets free. Would you stop your own efforts after that? Would you still try to help that third person free your family member, or would you just leave it in the hands of someone you don’t know well enough? When you want to help someone, your efforts will show. But we didn’t see her efforts at all. There were many ways to help him—she could have bribed someone or sought help from Mr. Shen, who was also involved and might have assisted her. You’re suggesting she’s so naive that she doesn’t realize what her lie about domestic violence and transferring her crime to the ML will do in front of the ministry. Even a child knows you shouldn’t lie to official authorities. Just because she apologized doesn’t mean she’s suddenly forgiven, especially since she returned to her unpleasant attitude in Episode 7. Her sadness doesn’t excuse her behavior. And why are you implying that I’m not watching the drama clearly when I’m clearly answering your questions correctly? I take this seriously because crimes against men by women are not being taken seriously. We men often just laugh off these serious issues. I thought you, being a man, would understand that, but that’s why our society is too harsh on men.
I’m not saying I don’t like the drama—I’m enjoying it because of the characters, Yuan Mu, and Mr. Ye. However, the way female characters like A Shu and Yuchi Hua are written makes them seem stupidly clever and just want to bully males like Yuan Mo and Wang Kun Wu, respectively.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Who told her that she should stay put? I don’t remember a scene like that where she was warned by someone not to do anything. The only conversation she had regarding the bail was with Mr. Ji.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
Yeah, I'm currently watching it and am on episode 7, so I remember that she went to Ji guy, but after hearing that Mr. Ye was working on bailing out the ML, she also could have shown more effort to help get him out. Instead, she just stayed at his house, doing nothing. My issue isn't with her blaming the crime on the ML but with her claiming he domestically abused her in front of her biggest supporter in the drama. She didn’t even apologize for it. Yes, her identity is that of a maid, but she could have pleaded with that Yuchi girl to do something about it, yet she didn’t even try. You can't excuse her neglecting the issue of the bail by saying she didn't have status or power. And what's even funnier—I’ve read comments saying her character was very annoying until episode 5 and that she had a change of heart in episode 6, but I didn't find her annoying at all until episode 6. After what she did, it just made me hate her.
Yes. What you said is true. But she regrets doing it. She tried hard to bring him out. Also, she doesn't know…
I understand that, but still, you don't accuse someone of fake domestic violence, especially someone who has helped you a lot in the past. She even blamed him for selling fake rouge. Although she tries to justify her actions by saying she's protecting herself and attempts to bail him out, it doesn't excuse her crime. That's why I said if an ML did this, viewers would probably be cursing his seven ancestors, but when a woman does it, it's treated as comedy. And You know what's the worst part, she didn't do anything to save him. If it wasn't for Mr. Yu then ML would probably be still in jail. Maybe I'm overreacting, but the two things I can't accept are falsely accusing a man of rape or domestic violence—both can ruin a man's life.
I was really enjoying it, but what the FL did in episode 6 was so disgusting that I don't know what to do. If the ML had done it, you all would probably be cursing him, but just because she's a woman, she gets a free pass. I'm really disgusted with these female C-drama viewers.
yes i agree with you gurl actually living in the wild for so long and manage to survive but she is too dumb to…
According to rumours Dark Night and Dawn starring Chen Zheyuan, Echo of her Voice starring Miles Wei, Wind Direction starring Sun Qian, Born To Be The One starring Yin Tao are scheduled to be released by IQIYI in Sep. Maybe one of these title will take the place. Regarding Song Zuer, her drama The Prisoner of Beauty was going going air previously according to some rumours but it didn't air yet. She has been released of her Tax Evasion charges so maybe she will get a comeback in the future.
And, of course, your insightful comparison to the ‘millennia-old tradition’ of male writers—how quaint. It’s refreshing to know that any critique of female characters is automatically deemed ‘chauvinistic’ while praising the flawless femininity parade is the new gold standard. I’ll make sure to follow your ‘enlightened’ guide to feminism: only critique male characters, and do so with the same reverence as one would discuss a saintly figure.
Thank you for the tip to avoid channels that depict morally ambiguous characters—obviously, they don’t align with your idealized, unblemished portrayals. I’ll be sure to uphold this ‘pioneering’ perspective that seems to redefine feminism as an endless celebration of flawless female leads. Bravo on your mission to preserve the sanctity of female characters at all costs!
It’s funny how MLs are often criticized for the tiniest things, but when FLs act poorly, it’s suddenly celebrated. For the last 4-5 years, pseudo-feminists like you have caused actual feminists from the past to roll in their graves, watching how their fight for equality has turned out. They wanted equal rights and representation, but thanks to your version of "feminism," FLs now get a free pass to have multiple guys flirting with them, touching them, all while they're still in a relationship (fake or not), and then act surprised when the ML gets upset. And of course, the ML has to comfort the FL for being upset! But if the ML so much as *talks* to another girl? Oh no, now the FL’s jealous and demanding an apology.
This year alone, how many "virgin simp" MLs have we seen pining over a 10-20-year-old crush, while FLs get to have an ex-boyfriend and more? Just take Love Next Door as an example. When the ML's ex was introduced, viewers on Twitter and YouTube were comparing him to the "perfect green flag" MLs from Lovely Runner, As Beautiful As You, and My Sweet Monster, criticizing him for not being honest with his crush, even though he took a realistic approach to move on. And who wrote these characters? Female writers, of course, who want their FLs constantly surrounded by beautiful males. Because nothing says female empowerment quite like portraying FLs this way.
I don’t understand how she can’t know the consequences of her actions when multiple women from noble houses were harmed by the fake rouge. You also didn’t address what would happen if the genders were reversed or how female characters in this drama sometimes bully males. You also didn’t provide a concrete reason for why she didn’t show any effort to bail him out and instead just went round and round about her struggles and how she is very naive.
Let’s close our debate here, as it’s clear we won’t be able to make each other understand our points.
I’m not saying I don’t like the drama—I’m enjoying it because of the characters, Yuan Mu, and Mr. Ye. However, the way female characters like A Shu and Yuchi Hua are written makes them seem stupidly clever and just want to bully males like Yuan Mo and Wang Kun Wu, respectively.