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Agreed ! The binge watching definitely adds to my opinion. Those who watched it week by week also probably talked a lot about the "little things" they saw that could feed into their narrative so after so many weeks they see things differently than us.
Which is fine, but it's true that people don't seem to accept different opinions on MDL. Everyone who criticize something is always a hater to their eyes.

You're factually right, but I didn't see Qian as just taking care of another orphan, that's where my problems lies unfortunately... It might come from the fact that the actor was the same both in teenage and adult life whereas the actor for the younger brother changer ? idk

I thought I was crazy lmao our opinion seems very unpopular

Sure grown together, not one raising the other... I dk, it's all about opinions at the end of the day, but I don't think they conveyed Qian's changing love for his brother well enough imo, it almost feels like he gave in in the end because he wanted to make his brother happy, especially after that whole talk about death and regrets (the napkin thing). It really is a writing problem for me more than the whole "incest" thing

Yeah, he was not as pro-active as he should have been to sell the whole thing. It was awkward, it almost felt like he did it to make his brother happy. That would take it too far, and I know that's not the case but the whole talk about death and regrets just before kind of felt like that's what it was.

Perspectives I guess. When we grow, some siblings are less tactile as they use to be, I saw it that way. Like, we're grown, stop. I really couldn't see it any other way but I guess it can be seem the way you explained it. I didn't read the summary so I wonder if knowing/not knowing who the couple would be influences how we interpret things.

It definitely was from the younger brother's POV because the writing team wanted to make it clear that his feelings had change. It wasn't clear at all from Qian's POV, at least not to me.

San Pang did not care for Lili the way Qian did for his brother, you're playing dumb on purpose here. It doesn't matter that he didn't adopt him, he cared for him like he did his biological sister, if they wanted to show them not being real brothers, they shouldn't have shown them as such a tight family like that. They chose to do that, to show us fraternal love, and that's fine you know. Some people can then get behind the growing of their RS, some can't. I can't.

It's the perfect place which is why I did express my dislike here.

I didn't accuse you of harassing me haha, it's just that everyone loves to debate a basic opinion as if their is a mind that needs changing. And why would I not watch it if like you say I'm not unconfortable with the plot ?

I saw the hardship but couldn't feel the attraction. I get what they tried to do but I don't think they brought it well enough imo. Hadn't they spend so much time on the past showing how much they are all like a family it would have been fine maybe. They show Qian too much like a dather figure to his brother for me to get behind him ending up falling for him without it being weird. I already finished the show, but it's not sensitive at all to me don't worry. I just don't like the writing choice they made that's it, it made the relationship weird.

Nothing? Yall are the one thinking everything is up for debate whenever you see a comment that is not aligned with your opinion.

I didn't. I don't like to spoil myself with summary. By the time I understood I was too far in and I expected the writing to be at least good enough to get me behind the relationship. I don't care about incest as long as there is no family love showed to is (GOT, House of the dragon), but here Qian was a father figure to his brother, it's weird of him to start seeing him like a lover.

My exact thought lmaooo I was like "why are you showing us images of Qian being a father figure to the guy he is having sex with ?"

Thank. You.
The family bond is too strong in this one, it makes the relation weird. I can get behind incest when I don't see family love (GOT, House of the dragon). But here they CHOSE to make us see the father that Qian was to BOTH of his siblings.

So ? The older one also ended up falling for his younger brother, to whom he was a father figure for years.

?????
I could get behind the younger one falling for the older one but the other way around ??? Not only did it come out of nowhere but he raised him and loved him like a baby brother.
Idc that they are not blood related, it's weird.

The only explanation for the time traveling is that every changes she makes creates an alternative reality, which mean that she doesn't go back to her own reality when she comes back in the "present". And every jump she makes has her changing realities over and over again.
When she goes back in the "present", past IS doesn't remember anything that her futur self did with her life. Except if she takes over her past self's body for 15 years all the way to the day that SJ died, I don't see how they can get together without her forgetting about it.
The only that would make sense is if whatever has her going in the past decides that she gets to stay in the past once she did what she had to do.

I hope you're wrong, we already had a "plot twist" of that sort a few months ago on a kdrama with a similar plot, that'll piss me off.
Also, he is dead in the present, would that mean that HIS present is the past of IS ? Like a few days/weeks/months before his death?
I already said that a few days ago but the time traveling here makes no sense, either every change they make creates an alternative reality (in which case your theory couldn't work at all because we would have an infinite alternative realities based on every single one of their choices), or it's the same reality, but then the present should not be altered one thing at a time. It seems thought that when she comes back in the present only the things she did in the past from her POV are impactful, which would not work if it's the same reality. The past is the past, when she comes back, every changes from her future implication should have already been made.

I wanted to watch something light and sweet you know, "coming of age", "friendship", like hello, I didn't sign up for this??
That movie was beautiful, obviously their friendship is fucked up and Jin woo was done dirty, but as it's a work of fiction and I love strong female friendship, I still loved it. It wrecked me but I'm so glad I gave it a shot.
The fact that there never was any love triangle and it was just the both them loving each other so much that caused all that pain... and they still found they way back to each other.