Patinha S2

I know, I didn't say it is impossible to them. I said it is harder.

Welp, I have to disagree. Being an introvert can definitely influence how someone acts, especially in intimate scenes. I get that some people just can’t, but we’ve seen SeaKeen kiss before and it was perfectly fine. So I’m leaning more toward the direction of the series being the factor here.

The hardest part is that Van will never notice the small details, like Farm stopping himself from lighting a cigarette to relieve the stress he feels over Van’s actions, simply because he cares and doesn’t want Van to suffer from allergies. As you said, it’s a quiet kind of caring. And now that you mention it, something clicked for me: we all see this tender side of Farm when he’s looking out for Van, but Van only seems to recognize the ‘angry’ Farm. That’s why, at the beginning of the series, he avoided sharing his problems with Farm, he didn’t want to be nagged.

It’s mostly because Van isn’t around when Farm is worrying. But even when Farm tells him directly that he’s concerned and doesn’t want him to get hurt, Van brushes it off almost instantly. It’s strange. The only explanation I can think of is that Van might be doing it on purpose, pushing Farm away, trying to lose him, because deep down he can’t stop coming back for Farm’s care. As others have said, it feels like self-sabotage.

Maybe it ties back to losing his parents, and the fear of losing Farm ‘for real’, even as friends, because of his own harmful actions. Maybe I’m overthinking, especially since he refused to let Farm break up with him. But I still believe Van’s behavior shows he can’t let go, even though he knows he should.

MAI, PLEASE STEP IN! YOU’RE MY ONLY HOPE! KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO VAN AND FARM, BECAUSE FARM ALSO NEEDS TO GET A GRIP.

I completely understand, especially with Sea being an introvert. That’s why I was curious whether it was the direction or simply the mood of the scene, since we’ve seen them shine in OnlyBoo.

I’m just confused about SeaKeen kissing scenes, in Head 2 Head and also in MuTeLuv. They did so much better back in OnlyBoo. Now the kisses feel odd and awkward. For example, in OnlyBoo the kiss when Kang and Mok moved into the apartment in episode 9 was passionate and sweet, but lately it seems off. It might be an issue with the direction or even the mood of the scenes, since they’re often expected to kiss suddenly, especially in Head 2 Head. They’ll have a heavy, emotional conversation and then kiss, and it just doesn’t land. At first I thought maybe it was because Jinn isn’t used to it and feels awkward, but even by episode 8 it still feels the same.

Talking about the preview scene for next week, I think Mai could play a bigger role to this subject. He made Farm jealous by interacting with Van, but it might actually be effective if he flipped it, flirting with Farm instead, so that Van would be the one to feel jealous. After all, we know Farm wouldn’t fall for some random stranger’s advances. But if someone close to them started showing interest in Farm, it could force Van to reevaluate his own behavior. (Speacially because I suspect that Van heard all that Mai said to Farm that day in the balcony when Van was "drunk". He even stepped in the conversation after Mai said "If you weren't my friend, I could totally hit on you.")

Like you, I thought the best approach would be for Farm to break up with him, give him the cold shoulder, and let Van drown in his own mess until he realizes what he’s losing. But at this point, we all know Farm would never do anything that could hurt Van, physically or emotionally, and he always gives in to him. Even after all the crap Van pulled, Farm still avoided releasing his own stress by smoking just to keep Van from suffering allergies.

That’s why someone needs to step in for him, and it has to be JJ. (Not Jinn and Je, they’ve got their own mess, but our sweet fifth-wheel Mai.) And honestly, I need more Mai scenes. I’m begging at this point!

Thinking about how J saw in his visions that Jinn would carry his guilt alone and succumb to it , I believe that only made him more frightened and confused, especially since not long ago Jinn was the one advising him not to shoulder the burden of failing to protect him. That contradiction must weigh heavily on J. It’s probably why he keeps getting nosebleeds. The boy is on the verge of collapsing under the stress.

I’ll mark this comment as a spoiler since I don’t know if you’ve already watched episode 8. If not, save the rest for later.

Now we see their roles reversed. In J’s vision, Jinn is consumed by guilt over what happened to his mother. So even though Jinn is the one giving advice to J, he himself would react differently in that situation. That makes it even harder for J to follow the advice, knowing that Jinn wouldn’t be able to take it himself.

That’s also why he’s so terrified of the accident’s outcome, because he understands that no advice in the world could keep Jinn from destroying himself with guilt.

Yesss! Great point! Like Van said, Farm is mysterious, we really don’t know much about his background beyond coming from a wealthy family and having a strained relationship with his parents.

I think at first she was simply afraid his father would leave again, so she kept the relationship hidden from Jinn, wanting to see how committed Jett really was this time to avoid having their hearts broken again. She also knew Jinn was hotheaded, impulsive, and reactive, which made the situation even more delicate. But as more time passed, I feel she became afraid that Jinn would be even angrier with her, not just for keeping it secret, but for waiting so long to tell him and for not considering his opinion at all.

They’ve all been making decisions on their own, leaving Jinn aside. Of course, as his parents, they have the right and responsibility to act for the sake of the family. But now that Jinn is grown, those choices don’t feel like parental guidance anymore, they feel more like secrets being kept from him, actions taken behind his back.

I’ve been thinking about this, and honestly, I side with J. Remember the scene at J’s house when Jinn was furious and nearly got hit by the motorcycle? J tried to warn him to not go anywhere and even tried to change things by taking him to college early. It didn’t work. Events unfolded differently, but the outcome was the same, like when Jinn broke the glass and cut himself. The only thing J managed to change was preventing Jinn from being hit, and that was only because he intervened at the exact moment it happened. I don’t know if that’s what J is thinking, but if it were me, I’d wonder: what if I warn Jinn beforehand, and he makes a different choice that still leads to the same result, just in another way, at another time, outside the pattern I know how to intervene in?
Now, Jinn does trust J and understands much more about his visions, but he’s still reactive when it comes to his father. I think J is slowly trying to help Jinn reflect on his own feelings, so when the moment comes, he won’t be so hot-headed. It’s like when you need to talk to someone about the very thing that makes them angry, you have to tread carefully, almost like walking on eggshells, to avoid making them even angrier and making things worse.

I really thought Van would change for good. I even vouched for him at the beginning of the series, but honestly, he’s only making me angrier as time goes on… Farm deserves so much better. But in the Next Week preview, Farm said he is not sure how serious Van is about them but he wants it to work out, so he seems to know that he could be just being played by Van, so we are the ones suffering for Farm, but he seems to get along with it. And about that, one thing in this episode really caught my attention, that was Farm’s statement about his family.
I’m not sure if it’s a translation issue, but he said he isn’t welcome at home. That surprised me, because Farm comes across as such a sweet, well-adjusted, polite, and disciplined guy. How could that be? I keep wondering if he wasn’t always like this, maybe that’s why he smokes even though he’s so into fitness. It could be like he’s someone who truly changed for the better, and maybe that’s why he still believes Van can do the same. Just a hypothesis, of course, but what if the sees his older self in Van? And maybe, that is why he is accepting all the hurtfull things Van does, what if Farm himself did that to someone before? And he think he deserves that somehow? 🤔Because we all been saying/thinking how is Farm accepting all this "crap" so easily?

I really thought Van would change for good. I even vouched for him at the beginning of the series, but honestly, he’s only making me angrier as time goes on… Farm deserves so much better. But in the Next Week preview, Farm said he is not sure how serious Van is about them but he wants it to work out, so he seems to know that he could be just being played by Van, so we are the ones suffering for Farm, but he seems to get along with it. And about that, one thing in this episode really caught my attention, that was Farm’s statement about his family.
I’m not sure if it’s a translation issue, but he said he isn’t welcome at home. That surprised me, because Farm comes across as such a sweet, well-adjusted, polite, and disciplined guy. How could that be? I keep wondering if he wasn’t always like this, maybe that’s why he smokes even though he’s so into fitness. It could be like he’s someone who truly changed for the better, and maybe that’s why he still believes Van can do the same. Just a hypothesis, of course, but what if the sees his older self in Van? And maybe, that is why he is accepting all the hurtfull things Van does, what if Farm himself did that to someone before? And he think he deserves that somehow? 🤔Because we all been saying/thinking how is Farm accepting all this "crap" so easily?

Yeah, as we all come from different backgrounds, our perspectives on romance/character dynamics will naturally differ.
But I think we can all agree that Boat and Oat are undeniably cute and great actors! ^-^

I felt like Sorn’s behavior was toxic because his arguments with Jun were always about getting his way, whenever and wherever he wanted, without considering Jun’s feelings. That selfishness ended up hurting Jun deeply. Even after Jun forgave him, Sorn didn’t change a bit, he kept repeating the same patterns.

For example, he tried to kiss Jun at work without consent, as usual. The one time he actually asked for permission, Jun agreed but set a clear boundary: no tongue. Sorn ignored that condition anyway. How can you trust someone who consistently disregards your boundaries?

I just can’t stand Sorn. To me, Jun only gave in because Sorn was too pushy and manipulative. If Sorn had truly changed after their “breakup,” I could have accepted it. But he didn’t, so what’s the point? Watching Jun being mistreated was frustrating, especially when contrasted with Jom, who was genuinely kind.

Some people argue that not every series needs a fairytale ending, and that toxic relationships add realism. I understand that. But I don’t enjoy a story where a character I care about ends up trapped in such a mess. I wanted better for Jun. That’s why I disliked the story overall, because it was presented as a “romance,” yet it felt more like manipulation than love.

It seems like BoatOat’s next series might head in the same direction. I’ll still watch it because I enjoy the actors, but if it turns out like this one, I’ll just keep hoping that one day they’ll be part of a production with a plot I actually enjoy. And honestly, if people like My Stubborn or their upcoming work, that’s perfectly fine, it’s just not for my taste.

Me too!!!!!!!! <3

Thanks, they are so cute!

I came from the future to state that SurfJava are a cute pair!

I think I saw a pilot of a show with them, but I guess that show was cancelled. Did they ever do anything together that wasn't cancelled?

I completely agree. What frustrated me most is that, for me, once trust is broken, a relationship can never truly work again. Even if Farm forgave him, that moment would always linger in the back of his mind. If I were Farm, I’d be thinking: ‘So I only matter as much as any other one‑night stand Van had, even after we talked about it last night? What a great way to show you care, Van.’