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FSF is fantastic and I always love Dilraba. Hope it's true, it'd be a nice cast.

Thank you:D Three years is barely an age difference, I'm excited to watch!

Is their age difference much of a plot point? I see the older woman/younger man tag and I don't really care for noona romances

Battle of Changsha is fantastic! My favorite republican drama to date.

I respect that. The interaction in ep 7 just put a really bad taste in my mouth. Maybe someday I'll pick it back up. I saw clips of later parts in the drama which enticed me to start watching in the first place, maybe I'll like it more once they're out of college.

Oof, I got to ep 10 but I'm still not feeling for these characters. I dropped it, it's definitely not for me

It's not a contradiction, it is a discussion. I am able to criticize his actions whilst also watching and enjoying the drama. It's not contradictory for me to say I am fine with watching a character who is a jerk or does bad things but also criticize the characters actions, both of those things can be true at the same time. I am annoyed with how the drama handled the character, versus his character as a whole. Nuance apparently does not exist and discussions where you're not praising are not allowed.

I keep hearing that same explanation, that he tried to tell them and they didn't listen so thus they deserved what he did. This keeps going in circles. It doesn't matter if he gave them some feedback and they still went with their version. He should have told them his plan and that he was making a different version, they were all friends. Yes, he has more experience but he should use that experience to help them not embarrass them when he already knew their project was going to fail. Again though, my biggest issue wasn't even LX. It was the way the drama made him out to be the one not in the wrong and how the FL accepted him treating them like they're children instead of classmates/friends. I've said so many times now that I don't need him to be some "nice" good guy. He can be a dick! The ML can be a dick and that can make for an interesting character. I don't know why everyone is trying to make it out like he wasn't though and he was the one who was right in that situation. Anyway, I really don't care about this anymore, everyone keeps saying the same thing to try to justify shitty behavior when his behavior wasn't even the actual problem.

Girlie look at my watchlist, I am well versed in every stupid trope, plot device, and character archetype, they still annoy me and I'm still going to come here and bitch about them lmao. The bad writing annoyed me so I came to vent my frustration at precisely the place to do that. I have a different opinion than you, and that's fine. I appreciate that this time you actually gave reasoning behind your thoughts and it's interesting to hear that perspective. I don't agree as I don't think explaining away criticisms with "because that's the plot of drama" is sufficient, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I know he gave them some feedback before the presentation but it really wasn't adequate and just because they didn't change it didn't justify him going and embarrassing them like that in my opinion. BUT the ML thinking he's right and standing by that fact (even though I think he was a total dick) I can respect to a certain extent. If that's just the way he is then that's his character and that's fine! It's how the FL and everyone else (including the audience) accepts this "lesson" he's teaching them. He's not some god and they're not children so I don't understand why they accept being treated like crap. And everyone in the comments who keep taking his side really don't make sense to me. I said in my other comment that if it were flipped and Gao was the ML, everyone would be on his side because LX really was being a jerk. But because LX is the ML, any critique aimed at him is discarded. That's what really annoyed me!

I really do not need the ML to be a "nice" guy, that wasn't my point, but I can see how my initial post portrays that.

I've also decided to keep watching to see if my opinion changes because I was enjoying it quite a lot before ep 7!

I literally said I enjoy morally grey characters, that isn't the issue and if you read my comment above then you would already know that. Goodbye My Princess, Innocent Man, and so many others have antiheroes but those dramas don't gloss over their bad actions, that's the difference.

This is a place to discuss dramas and opinions on said dramas. Stooping to condescension isn't productive so I honestly don't even know why you're responding when the only input you're giving is "omg it's a drama calm down, it's in the synopsis so no critique is allowed, watch something else".

"congrats on the former and sorry about the latter"😭😭😭

That's such a weak argument. His behavior can't be criticized simply because he has character development later on? He still did it and the female lead and the audience excuse his behavior before any of this supposed development even occurs. A viewer shouldn't have to "read the synopsis" in order to have an opinion on a character and their actions.

And I don't need a character to be a 100% golden boy never does wrong type of person. Morally grey characters are very interesting, I like them! The difference here is that everyone is acting like his shitty actions weren't shitty! It's all being glossed over and the blame is being put on Gao and ZY for not "listening" to him like the ML is some all-knowing godly genius and they're stupid children. If it were acknowledged in some way that what he did was wrong then I wouldn't have this complaint. But both the audience and the FL just accepted his behavior as "right" and the others as "wrong" just because he's the male lead. It's annoying, I hate that. He was being a jerk, and that's okay! But I don't like that he's being painted as the one who did nothing wrong.

They're both not great. They both have to rely on their costars to convey emotional depth in their scenes, I honestly don't know why they would pair these two up.

It's called common human decency. They all spent a lot of time on that project when he knew very well that their work wasn't good enough. He should have told them he was doing one on his own and let them know beforehand that he was going to present a different one. You're defending shitty behavior simply because he's the male lead. If Gao were the ML everyone would be pissed at LX.

If you look up Eastern Palace on the novelupdates website you can find it. The translation is completed.

Wudai and the human emperor were my favorites. The episode where they were trying to steal that vase thing had me crying laughing, Xia Minghao is hilarious.

Viki is even more inflated than mdl lmao. Viki ratings really can never be trusted

Omg you're a real one, thanks for letting me know🙏

And just like that at episode 7 I am done with this drama. The ML is a jerk. I see so many of you justifying his actions in the comments and it's honestly ridiculous. He let his friends go and embarrass themselves when he knew their work wasn't appropriate for the project. "Teaching them a lesson" is such an asshole method when he could have just had an adult conversation with them. And the FL's complete approval of his actions pisses me off more. I literally cannot root for this couple. I'm so annoyed by both of them, which is a shame because I was enjoying this before that.

Edit: It's not JUST because he's a jerk that I'm annoyed. It's that his actions were glossed over and he was painted as the good guy in a situation where he clearly wasn't. The FL and others in the drama accepting him treating them like crap and praising him instead makes it difficult to care about any of these characters. I dropped it, it's clearly not my kind of drama.