Unfortunately, the series has lost its appeal for me :( I guess it's not for me anymore. A pity because I really like it at the beginning. I'm going to wait one more episode to see if my feelings change, otherwise, I'll drop it.
Seems to me that in BL series all sorts of people can do all sorts of things that are criminal, immoral, unethical,…
It's not specific to "BL" though (even if I don't understand what people really "mean" by "BL", since originally it only means "boy love" ?). I say this in the case you want to define "BL" by those problematic tropes. But those tropes are more or less everywhere ?
Slap-and-kiss lakorns are not "BL" but you have very problematic tropes in those ones too (rape, abuse, violence against women...). You have the problematic "kabedon", the forced kisses, the forceful male lead in the usual romantic drama, "BL" or not (like Hana Yori Dango), etc.
And the fact that some immoral and bad people don't get punished in some "BL" happens in reality too. I don't think it is only a question of plot or not.
In fact, it's a general (and cultural) problem reflected in most work of fiction, because they belong to a society which has those beliefs and prejudices. Some works are more aware of it than others though.
Stop saying that this isn't a BL cause it has a proper plot besides romance!It's a BL novel, from a BL market,…
It's so confusing what is really BL so I made now no difference between BL and other works anyways. I don't see the point. The only useful differences for me are : - if it's a good, interesting work or not, - if it's as you say thriller, comedy, horror, etc. - and if the relationships are same-sex oriented (for the main characters) or not. I think people are losing too much time with this distinction. They tend to think BL = bad and LGBT = good. But BL only mean originally boy love (but it is used now more generally apparently)....it is not an indication of the quality of the work. So it makes no sense.
I love this show, honestly do but how come this has higher rating than ITSAY?
I find this one more interesting (because of the plot) than ITSAY that I drop after three episodes...lol Everyone has different taste. However, people should stop with the cult around ITSAY, the obsession over rating, the competitiveness. It's getting very disturbing.
This series and lovely writer will be my most anticipated series for 2021. Both are very good actors and the hate to love relationship is one my favorite cliche in BL so (though I'm a little tired of the student or school environment in BL -again-)....
Well, based on the first ep, the most important woman in this show is now dead, so I don't think we'll be seeing…
Ok then but I'm still a little confused lol
For point 4, maybe because he's the only medical examiner, that's why ? and since it's in a little town, they cannot get another "expert" ?
The thing I find odd though is the reaction of the class with Natty's death (they have an exam, life goes on etc. and they don't seem troubled by her disappearance). But since we don't know the exact chronology maybe before that they were troubled, shocked, etc. However, I don't think the teacher knows about her sexual abuse since the main character refuses to give information to the reporter and hides the conditions of her death to her (the scene with the little mermaid).
The style you talk about, I think it's more a problem of editing some scenes and the acting seems a little off sometimes. Not perfect for sure but I still find it interesting.
Well, based on the first ep, the most important woman in this show is now dead, so I don't think we'll be seeing…
I'm sorry but I'm very confused about your comment ?
- The series shows a violent and misogynistic society but it doesn't necessarily mean that the message (of the author, director, etc.) behind is misogynistic ? Maybe it is making a statement on how things are in this little (and not so quiet) town ? Personally, I'd wait a little more before concluding anything. After all, it is only the first episode.
-You find it boring (and that's ok since after all it is how you feel) but you also say suspense is good ? So I'm a little confused here. Unpleasant, I understand, because of the scene of the autopsy and the murders. It is to be expected since this is a crime drama.
- The detachment you speak about when the doctor does the autopsy with his intern is quite expected especially with difficult works like forensics etc. They are confronted to death (and horrible deaths). They need to detach themselves from reality in order to be "sane". I think it is also a reason why the main character goes to clubbing and gets drunk ? He needs to forget what he does as a daily job...
- You can see he's not so detached when it is his friend who is murdered (contrary to the first victim he doesn't know).
Yeah I am kind of upset that rating is stuck at 9.2 eventhough many people are rating it everyday so I don't know…
It wasn't that competitive at the beginning (even friendly). But yes it has been getting quite toxic because BL is getting more famous...But I think social media are also quite toxic : there is basically no obstacle for being a jerk lol. Also generally no show should be put on a pedestal, otherwise, you'll be no longer a reasonable fan...It is one of the reason I've stopped watching that other series, the level of admiration was too high for me and I was scared lol
I don't understand a part of the comment section. If you don't like a show (or dislike it so much), why not drop it and be done with it ? Don't force yourself ?! Why watch season 2 if you don't like season 1 ? You're bound to be disappointed then...
OMG I didn't expect the first episode to be that good ! I'm still at the beginning though. The actress is also really amazing. If the following episodes are as gripping as the first one, I think it might be my favorite kdrama.
Slap-and-kiss lakorns are not "BL" but you have very problematic tropes in those ones too (rape, abuse, violence against women...). You have the problematic "kabedon", the forced kisses, the forceful male lead in the usual romantic drama, "BL" or not (like Hana Yori Dango), etc.
And the fact that some immoral and bad people don't get punished in some "BL" happens in reality too. I don't think it is only a question of plot or not.
In fact, it's a general (and cultural) problem reflected in most work of fiction, because they belong to a society which has those beliefs and prejudices. Some works are more aware of it than others though.
- if it's a good, interesting work or not,
- if it's as you say thriller, comedy, horror, etc.
- and if the relationships are same-sex oriented (for the main characters) or not.
I think people are losing too much time with this distinction. They tend to think BL = bad and LGBT = good. But BL only mean originally boy love (but it is used now more generally apparently)....it is not an indication of the quality of the work. So it makes no sense.
For point 4, maybe because he's the only medical examiner, that's why ? and since it's in a little town, they cannot get another "expert" ?
The thing I find odd though is the reaction of the class with Natty's death (they have an exam, life goes on etc. and they don't seem troubled by her disappearance). But since we don't know the exact chronology maybe before that they were troubled, shocked, etc. However, I don't think the teacher knows about her sexual abuse since the main character refuses to give information to the reporter and hides the conditions of her death to her (the scene with the little mermaid).
The style you talk about, I think it's more a problem of editing some scenes and the acting seems a little off sometimes. Not perfect for sure but I still find it interesting.
- The series shows a violent and misogynistic society but it doesn't necessarily mean that the message (of the author, director, etc.) behind is misogynistic ? Maybe it is making a statement on how things are in this little (and not so quiet) town ? Personally, I'd wait a little more before concluding anything. After all, it is only the first episode.
-You find it boring (and that's ok since after all it is how you feel) but you also say suspense is good ? So I'm a little confused here. Unpleasant, I understand, because of the scene of the autopsy and the murders. It is to be expected since this is a crime drama.
- The detachment you speak about when the doctor does the autopsy with his intern is quite expected especially with difficult works like forensics etc. They are confronted to death (and horrible deaths). They need to detach themselves from reality in order to be "sane". I think it is also a reason why the main character goes to clubbing and gets drunk ? He needs to forget what he does as a daily job...
- You can see he's not so detached when it is his friend who is murdered (contrary to the first victim he doesn't know).
Edit : it is based on a novel and the author is a real doctor if I remember correctly ?