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Rating bombing really bothers me - but yeah they do it.
They hit new dramas and try and to tank it out of the gate, it’s easier to impact a rating down with one star reviews and then to bring their drama that they got paid to inflate up.
Just look at ratings of first four episode vs later episodes to have good idea of what the dramas rating truly is.

Yeah, I think mainly to me: just because he isn’t successful yet and hasn’t made it does NOT mean he is worthless and that the others are somehow better than him - and them treating him like their superior is what’s actually wrong.
In other words, his behavior is in reaction to their snobbery NOT the cause of it.

There are some scenes in Ep 3 and 4 that show that a few members of this group 8 had started seriously looking down on him after they had success and he hadn’t yet. They started thinking they were better than him and he KNEW they looked down on him.

So the people who think he’s behaving badly, I ask - if someone is treating you terribly, do you really owe them respect? I don’t think so, I think his behavior towards them is fine - why on earth should he be happy for their success when they themselves are delighting in his failure?

And yes, he absolutely should have stopped hanging out with them a while ago - but they’d been his core social group for so long and I think the change in the group dynamic happened slowly over time. Also, not everyone in the group cannot stand him, there are three that still actually like him. And, he is having a hard time - that’s a core piece of the drama.

I’d agree that I’d be disappointed in our hero if we end the series and he hasn’t grown and changed himself - but I don’t think that’s the direction of this series.

I love these first few episodes 🥰

Yeah - I thought this rating should be much much higher as this is the best series on right now, but then I started seeing some of the posts here with complaints about Dong Man and a couple posters even used curse words to describe him. If they don’t like the main character, they’re probably going to give the series a low score.
Those people just don’t get him - why?

Maybe they’re skipping though scenes, this isn’t a series that you should do that, there is a lot of subtext.

Maybe they’ve never been through a really hard time themselves, so they just don’t get it.

But my feeling is - they aren’t picking up on all the subtext, it’s going over their head.
The series shows us WHY he acts that way, and it makes complete sense (Further details below hidden for those who haven’t watched thru ep 4)

I guess - people either get it, or they don’t - I just wish that people wouldn’t rate the show badly just because they don’t understand what is going on.

I am on of the ones who LOVES it!!

01 day
13 hrs
46 mins

And it even gets better! second half of ep 2 is what really grabbed me 🥰

I completely agree with you, his characters is complex - not everything he does is perfect. But that’s what makes us human, we make mistakes + have to keep going.

If anyone jumps to ML defense - I think it’s a natural instinct to seek a righteous and good path, and defend the person we believe is more correct.

For years, he’s KNOWN that a few of the people is his group look down on him. He’s known it, and he isn’t the type of person who is good at being fake, so he gives it back. Their insults are underhanded and clever, in disguise or behind his back — while his insults are right in their face. Personally, when I compare his behavior and their behavior, his wins. Their criticism (the characters in the story) fails as they’ve been worse than he.

Us, as viewers, we see both sides … for example, the lady who kicked him out of the bar - it shows her later telling him he can come back once he gets a girlfriend (she hopes that will help him constrain himself) - so she isn’t vicious in her rejection, she’s just trying to get her own husband to stop fixating on MLs behavior. Like, I see her and get her. But if it’s THEM vs ML, I side with ML.
Perhaps posters who take exception to criticism of ML are defending him simply as they think the treatment he received from that group was already too much and what ML really needs is some care and compassion- that is what will help him calm down.

it’s been a while since I’ve loved a message board and all the posters on it as much as I am loving this one!!! 🥰😘
Thank you for all your comments and thoughts about the show — I need something to read while I have to wait for episode 5!

So funny about the slow access - this is the first drama/ movie / book that has my mind spinning after I’m done watching - I cannot stop thinking about the meaning and the characters. If I could binge watch, I totally would. BUT, I’d miss the time to let the epsiode sink in + I’d miss all the reaction from the other people who seem to love this show as much as me!

😳oh, wow!! Thanks for sharing - I didn’t even realize that!!

“Thinking about this since yesterday” —> this drama does that, doesn’t it?! 🥰
Yes, I agree Can This Love be Translated also had that theme of understanding more than just the words - comprehending what the other person was saying, grasping the persons idiolect and all their subtext. They not only hear, but understand each other + they genuinely like what they hear.
This drama is beautiful on so many levels, just like the beauty of the characters they’ve brought to life 🥰

It’s funny you say that, I was thinking earlier that only emotionally intelligent or people with empathy would enjoy this. A very self centered person just wouldn’t get it or understand what’s going on - they’d miss all the subtext.
They’d only find Dong Man annoying and wouldn’t know how to empathize with his plight - so the entire plot would go ~whoosh!~ right over their head.

I think it’s what you said exactly - especially if you look at her character and her talent —> she is incredibly perceptive, that is the reason she is soooo good at analyzing and reading scripts and all the writers want her feedback.
So she “sees” him, what’s beneath the surface of him, she sees it when no one else does. He is raw and real, and also is loud and anxious and he is genuine and sincere - the others , the hide and are not honest.
She knows she likes him right away as she can see him, while all the others around her are hiding who they are. And the others around her also don’t really like her and are insincere. He likes her, and she feels it.

If everyone around you, if you could tell they didn’t really like you even if they never said it - wouldn’t you immediately adore the person who truly liked you, the real you and enjoyed your company?
Makes perfect sense to me their relationship.

Yes, this scene with him explaining why he talks and talks is because he becomes so anxious when he feels how they don’t like him - it feels so real. The actor is amazing and deserves an award.

ah, right I see what you mean, I thought he was talking about MDL rating, the score isn’t bad, I just think it would be a bit higher if people didn’t purposely lower dramas ratings. I find it frustrating that they do that.

That’s because they’re actually groups of people that bomb dramas (to make other dramas look good) —> and yes I know this sounds crazy, but just look at the episode reviews that haven’t been release yet. 4.4 ratings!!! It’s so obvious it’s on purpose because those episodes haven’t even been released, so no it’s just people with ulterior motive!! the rating on the first three episodes is really high (because enough people who’ve actually watched it have given it a good rating.)
It’s frustrating as a 1 star review can totally kill a good score.
But, yeah, it’s harder for them to bring the drama they want to get good reviews, so purposely tank other dramas.

Couldn’t agree more!! - notice she gave him option to take out the parts she wrote and then he could leave her name off of it. He’s angry because he KNOWS it’s not as good without her words - I don’t like him at all and was hoping Dong Man heard that nonsense and would go crazy at him. That guy deserves whatever bad karma is headed his way.

Right, when he speaks and she looks at him with a small smile, it is like sunshine coming through on a rainy day - just beautiful

Update after Ep 3 - I didn’t think it was possible, but I like it even more.
I actually considered stopping the series after watching the end of epsiode 2 not because I didn’t like it, but because I was so moved by the second half of ep 2 that I didn’t want to see any more, as I felt it was already perfectly done.

Why isn’t there a way to give a show more than ten stars?

Yeah, he’s annoying- but he’s in serious pain and struggling to survive …. If you haven’t been really beaten down by life for a long period of time, you might not understand. If you think of him as toxic, maybe try watching until the end of epsiode 2 - I fell in love with this series in the second half of episodes 2, I was on the fence before that. If you still dont see the beauty at that point, then this probably just not the show for you 🤷🏻‍♀️ - just not your cup of tea 🥰