I find the transition between the different actors for the main lead very well done. And this is coming from someone who loves SJK and KJW as Euseom/Saya and Tanya. 8 years have passed, they are now adults and no longer young people. And the new actors bring this more mature aura of experience. The distinction between Saya & Euseom is clearly murkier. Which is normal now. Euseom is no longer the slightly dumb, awkward, naive, innocent and impulsive kid. His time as a slave in the mine, the losses he suffered, the mistakes he made gradually eroded his innocence and impulsiveness, giving rise to a certain cynicism. After 8 years at the head of the Ago tribe, uniting the tribes one after the other, killing his adversaries, executing his men when they strayed from the right path, making difficult choices, he could no longer be the kid from season 1. No leader is innocent, nor is any soldier. So it's understandable that Euseom now looks more like Saya, without the twisted and dark side. And I find that LJG succeeded in showing us the twins were becoming more and more alike while maintaining a significant distinction: Euseom is a charismatic leader with a big heart while Saya has demons, complexes and ambition that eats away at him. As for SSK, she embodies with calm, gentleness and determination a Tanya more seasoned in the game of power and religious manipulation. We see that Tanya has learned to repress her impulsive indignation and to channel it so as to always maintain her position as spiritual leader to achieve her ends. But the change is more subtle because Tanya had already started a good part of the way in season 1.
They kept Doti's character but it's no longer the same actress. Go Na Hee (born in 2009) was Doti in the first…
Yeah, I was sad too about Choi Young Joon. He was so great as Yeonbal and his scenes with LJG would have been incredible. In general, Doti excepted (since she was a child and now a teenager so the change makes sense), I have a hard time knowing who's who in the recast. It's a bit confusing at first.
Eunseom and Tanya reunited and even kissed. Such a sweet moment.Not gonna lie, when I started season 2, I had…
They kept Doti's character but it's no longer the same actress. Go Na Hee (born in 2009) was Doti in the first season and now it's Lee Chae-Yun (born in 2005). But I understand the confusion since it's 4 years later irl and the actress could have grow up to this person.
They were lovers right from season 1,but their time together was short when they wanted to be together, in season…
Euseom dreamed of Tanya saying to Saya she wished she never met him. And he thought it was him she was talking about. A part of him fear what Tanya may think of him. That's also why he send men to her father and not her. I agree 8 years are too long but hé was caught in the War, didn't know much about what happened to Arthdal, feared about Tanya's réaction and so on.
nobody is hating. the roll out for this was terribly explained and in 2023 with spoilers it’s absurd to have…
As I said to someone else, I understand the confusion as it wasn't explained well about this drama having 2 release. And everyone has the right to feel what they want.
That said, I have the right to find that there are a lot of negative comments (mostly because people don't know that the international release will be next week). I have seen some criticize the subtitlers for not having already sub the episode or Disney + for having fail its internation audience etc... only because they didn't know about the international release. And it’s certainly an understandable confusion and frustration BUT we waited 4 years for this season. It finally comes out, and, in a week, 3 episode will be subtitled. So I just want to calm things down a bit so that this sub can be a safe place to celebrate this drama that we've all been waiting for and reassure those who thought Disney + will not sub this drama.
I would also like to remind that in 2019, when season 1 was released, there was also a delay between the Korean release and the Netflix one. I don't know what contract they have with the studio but it is what it is. There is the Korean release for korean people without sub (which understandable since the target is korean people) and the international one with subs.
Sure, in an time period where spoilers are everywhere, it's frustrating, but just like when a series comes out in full on Netflix and I get spoiled because people binge-watch the show the day of the release while I wait until the weekend to watch it.
We have season 2 because Disney+ has picked up the drama, let's be grateful.International audiences only have…
Because yesterday was the Korean release. It's why it's only in korean without sub. But next saturday it's the international release with eng sub (and others subs) on Disney + around the globe.
aaa makes sense, I didn't know there was a week delay on it for international viewers. Thanks for the heads up
You're welcome! I was so surprised to see so many confused and angry people. There should be an explanation on MDL to clarify the situation because I understand people's confusion if they don't know there is two release.
Another internationally highly anticipated kdrama has gone down the drain because Disney+ does not give a shit!…
We have season 2 because Disney+ has picked up the drama, let's be grateful. International audiences only have to wait 1 more week to be able to watch 3 episodes with subtitles. We waited 4 years, 1 week is nothing.
Where are the subs? It's one of the most anticipated dramas of the year and there is still no subs to it 1 day…
The drama will have official English subtitles in 1 week for its international release. I don't think anyone wants to bother translating the first episodes when in 1 week the official subtitles will be released. You just need to have a little patience.
What is it with this movie that there are still no English subs a day later? And why the international release…
The drama will have official English subtitles in 1 week. I don't think anyone wants to bother translating the first episodes when in 1 week the subtitles will be released. You just need to have a little patience.
To people complaining about the lack of subtitles: The drama has not yet been officially released internationally. Its international release date is September 16. For now, there is only the Korean release. I know it's a shame to have a week apart but it's only a week to go. So please don't spread too much hate or continually ask for English subtitles. You will have them next Saturday.
As a sister, XY understands and supports CX 100%. As a woman, absolutely not (as we understand when she tries…
You're absolutely right, CX would never intentionally hurt his loved one. I was no saying that. Only that he is following the same path as his grandfather and, in his way to power, will hurt and use his closed ones. Even if XY wants her cousin to use her and didn't feel use, the fact is that he used her. XY is traumatized and had waited her cousin for centuries. Of course now they reunited she'll do everything to help him because that who she is. It doesn't make it right though. Above all, my argument was that as a family, she can accept his ambition (justified since otherwise he will be killed by their uncles) and be used by him. But as a woman, as a lover, she couldn't accept that. Or, at least, not at the cost of sacrificing who she is and her happiness.
Indeed, if CX had not pushed XY towards TSJ, she would not have been able to develop romantic feelings because she didn't yet have at the time. But CX is the kind of man she fears and doesn't want to marry. If he had confessed, it both would have made for an interesting plot but also could have doomed XY because she would probably have given in to CX because he is her family, regardless of her heart and life choices.
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8 years have passed, they are now adults and no longer young people. And the new actors bring this more mature aura of experience.
The distinction between Saya & Euseom is clearly murkier. Which is normal now. Euseom is no longer the slightly dumb, awkward, naive, innocent and impulsive kid. His time as a slave in the mine, the losses he suffered, the mistakes he made gradually eroded his innocence and impulsiveness, giving rise to a certain cynicism. After 8 years at the head of the Ago tribe, uniting the tribes one after the other, killing his adversaries, executing his men when they strayed from the right path, making difficult choices, he could no longer be the kid from season 1. No leader is innocent, nor is any soldier.
So it's understandable that Euseom now looks more like Saya, without the twisted and dark side.
And I find that LJG succeeded in showing us the twins were becoming more and more alike while maintaining a significant distinction: Euseom is a charismatic leader with a big heart while Saya has demons, complexes and ambition that eats away at him.
As for SSK, she embodies with calm, gentleness and determination a Tanya more seasoned in the game of power and religious manipulation. We see that Tanya has learned to repress her impulsive indignation and to channel it so as to always maintain her position as spiritual leader to achieve her ends. But the change is more subtle because Tanya had already started a good part of the way in season 1.
In general, Doti excepted (since she was a child and now a teenager so the change makes sense), I have a hard time knowing who's who in the recast. It's a bit confusing at first.
Go Na Hee (born in 2009) was Doti in the first season and now it's Lee Chae-Yun (born in 2005).
But I understand the confusion since it's 4 years later irl and the actress could have grow up to this person.
How long can we get a release date after a licence approval?
That said, I have the right to find that there are a lot of negative comments (mostly because people don't know that the international release will be next week). I have seen some criticize the subtitlers for not having already sub the episode or Disney + for having fail its internation audience etc... only because they didn't know about the international release.
And it’s certainly an understandable confusion and frustration BUT we waited 4 years for this season. It finally comes out, and, in a week, 3 episode will be subtitled. So I just want to calm things down a bit so that this sub can be a safe place to celebrate this drama that we've all been waiting for and reassure those who thought Disney + will not sub this drama.
I would also like to remind that in 2019, when season 1 was released, there was also a delay between the Korean release and the Netflix one. I don't know what contract they have with the studio but it is what it is. There is the Korean release for korean people without sub (which understandable since the target is korean people) and the international one with subs.
Sure, in an time period where spoilers are everywhere, it's frustrating, but just like when a series comes out in full on Netflix and I get spoiled because people binge-watch the show the day of the release while I wait until the weekend to watch it.
There should be an explanation on MDL to clarify the situation because I understand people's confusion if they don't know there is two release.
International audiences only have to wait 1 more week to be able to watch 3 episodes with subtitles. We waited 4 years, 1 week is nothing.
I don't think anyone wants to bother translating the first episodes when in 1 week the official subtitles will be released. You just need to have a little patience.
I don't think anyone wants to bother translating the first episodes when in 1 week the subtitles will be released. You just need to have a little patience.
The drama has not yet been officially released internationally. Its international release date is September 16. For now, there is only the Korean release.
I know it's a shame to have a week apart but it's only a week to go.
So please don't spread too much hate or continually ask for English subtitles. You will have them next Saturday.
Even if XY wants her cousin to use her and didn't feel use, the fact is that he used her. XY is traumatized and had waited her cousin for centuries. Of course now they reunited she'll do everything to help him because that who she is. It doesn't make it right though.
Above all, my argument was that as a family, she can accept his ambition (justified since otherwise he will be killed by their uncles) and be used by him. But as a woman, as a lover, she couldn't accept that. Or, at least, not at the cost of sacrificing who she is and her happiness.
Indeed, if CX had not pushed XY towards TSJ, she would not have been able to develop romantic feelings because she didn't yet have at the time. But CX is the kind of man she fears and doesn't want to marry. If he had confessed, it both would have made for an interesting plot but also could have doomed XY because she would probably have given in to CX because he is her family, regardless of her heart and life choices.