So true. I tried watching 2 to 3 times due to ML but I just can't.
After ALP, Xu kai's dramas have all been terrible.
While this drama was pleasant, the ML role was like most Cdrama ML roles, a dildo to the FL. Everything he did centered around how it impacted the FL. There was no 'his' story, he was part of the FL story and that's that.
It looks that is going to be about a cheating man that ruins everyone's life around him.....ONCE AGAINCommon writers…
Cheating man and cheating woman.
husband thinks his wife gave birth to his child. Wife thinks she pulled a smart one by faking other man's child as her husbands, not knowing her husband has another child.
I think many FLs are made that way to give them a tomboyish personality, because guys usually interact that way…
I am all for ML thrashing/cheating/abusing FL I am also all for FL thrashing/cheating/abusing ML
After all, these are dramas and each character has an arc they go through.
In dramas, actions need to have consequences. Only then those actions make sense. If any drama shows ML or FL assaulting/abusing/cheating or even treating others as shit, it also need to show that those actions have consequences. Consequences can be many, one is karma doing same to them or them learning what they did is wrong and have character growth.
but, in kdrams and even Cdramas, FL abusing/thrashing ML is shown as comedic. This is pure assault and these FL don't face any sort of consequences.
Imagine if some one called an african using the 'N' word and the drama makes the whole thing funny. Now imagine almost every Kdrama using the 'N' word on africans as funny. That is how these assaults are like.
Characters in a drama can be as bad it comes. As long as there is logical end to their actions, the drama will be ok.
These......they are just pure assaults by the FL shown in funny manner. Wonder if viewers would accept ML thrashing FL to pulp being shown as funny?
And yeah, FL getting piss drunk is another unbelievable Kdrama trope. You know where the drunk FL are shown as cute....
Drama is fun. The hacker-skunk duo is the heart of the show. Where i thought the FL would bring alot on the table…
That lady is a darling and every minute she is on the screen, the show is that much enjoyable. Both that actress and character just brightens the show.
I think many FLs are made that way to give them a tomboyish personality, because guys usually interact that way…
If that is the case, they should fire people who are writing these dramas.
men NEVER interact that way. A group of men who are friends have a understanding of what is off limits. Try hitting one of the friends like FL does ML and there would be blood. Another thing is off limits is your mates girl. Ex or otherwise, strictly off limits.
If any man acted the way FL does with his mates, he would end up in hospital.
The FL's projected in this drama and many other dramas are atrocious. If it is cultural, it is a much bigger problem. At this point, these dramas seem to be trying to say men getting physically beaten by women is perfectly fine since the men are unreliable or corrupt etc etc.
A question, can there be reasons for ML to thrash FL as well? most Kdramas have a 2ML with whom FL has a very questionable relationship. A perfectly good excuse for the ML to thrash the crap out of FL. Another example would be this drama, the FL enters ML house and gets a peek at this bits. A perfectly valid reason for a nice beating. Imagine if a man entered a women's house like that? He would be thrashed as per Kdramas.
Or do you think men should never beat women, no matter the reason?
lastly, being a tomboy has nothing to do with physically beating other men.
An entitled moron who thinks it is her right to abuse and hurt, especially the ML. The ML is fully capable of thrashing the FL to an inch of her life but somehow he is supposed to pretend to be meek and subjugate himself to the thrashing and abuse from the FL.
Every character in this drama is interesting, except the FL. She is the typical Kdrama FL.... an abusive loud mouthed moron.
The abusive FL is very unappealing. Kdrams should get over this fascination that FL thrashing ML is funny or alright. It's not alright and it just is disgusting to see FL's in Kdramas being characterized in this manner.
Decent story, not unique in Kdrama land but had enough thrills, suspense and romance.
FL nailed her role and probably carried the show. ML role was good but the actor needs more experience acting in romance scenes. Watched him in 'All of us are dead' and he was spectacular in that drama. That role of a brash young guy fits him more than a more nuanced role as this one.
This is a Cdrama, get on with the program of FL's physically abusing ML's.It's catharsis for Cdrama viewers to…
Of course it is wrong. I can name a dozen Cdramsa and Kdramas in last 6 months where the FL physically abuses ML.
Point being, this is pretty much the norm in Kdramas and Cdramas.
I have made numerous posts on how this violence by FL on ML is perverse, especially as these dramas make light of that said violence.
Take out those scenes of thrashing and you have a very nice story. But for some reason the writers of these dramas pretty much have these kinds of physical assaults. when nothing makes logical sense, the only reason is always the simplest one. The viewers like these scenes where the ML in spite of getting thrashed by the FL still loves her - thats probably what the writers want to convey.
The reverse though never happens, There is not a single drama where the ML thrashing the crap out of FL and the FL keeps loving him.
So, catharsis is the only word that comes to my mind, we don't have to like it but thats what makes most sense.
She realized that the things done by 2ML in past were not actually done by him. The birthday noodles. Birthday…
understood that recently.
But boy the men in Cdramas, especially the leads suck. They are so bad at being men.
My first few Cdramas, I thought the ML's had impotency or some sexual issues. That's how fake they came across.
This actually gets worse in fantasy Cdramas. The ML is Eternal Love, he was probably the simpiest, wimpiest and vomit inducing ML ever. He was literally crawling at FL feet and licking them through out the drama.
the idea of a handsome, rich, popular and successful 25 year old man who has never liked a women or looked at women is fakest Cdrama concept. In reality, these kind of guys would be shagging a new girl every day.
my god can I please not get a physically abusive female lead
This is a Cdrama, get on with the program of FL's physically abusing ML's.
It's catharsis for Cdrama viewers to watch men getting beaten up by women & bonus points if it's the FL abusing ML and he just takes the abuse with a whimper.
This one, I ignored the red flags and the drama is very very good.
Just think of FL thrashing ML's in these dramas as BDSM and it should be fine.
I’m trying to figure what so special about this girl. Both boys were simps to the very end. My gosh, that was…
Every Cdrama ML is a simp. There are numerous Cdramas where the ML simping was outright cringe. You had to be on drugs to watch that kind of simping with straight face. These ML's practically are spineless and crawl at the feet of FL, often times licking the feet.
Looks like that's the preferred ML's by viewers in Cdramas. Simpy, spineless, very pure and very virgin. Until they meet the FL, the only thing their pecker was used for was urinating and shaken only once after it.
While this drama was pleasant, the ML role was like most Cdrama ML roles, a dildo to the FL.
Everything he did centered around how it impacted the FL.
There was no 'his' story, he was part of the FL story and that's that.
Poor second half.
husband thinks his wife gave birth to his child.
Wife thinks she pulled a smart one by faking other man's child as her husbands, not knowing her husband has another child.
Shit is spread all around in this one.
I am also all for FL thrashing/cheating/abusing ML
After all, these are dramas and each character has an arc they go through.
In dramas, actions need to have consequences. Only then those actions make sense.
If any drama shows ML or FL assaulting/abusing/cheating or even treating others as shit, it also need to show that those actions have consequences. Consequences can be many, one is karma doing same to them or them learning what they did is wrong and have character growth.
but, in kdrams and even Cdramas, FL abusing/thrashing ML is shown as comedic.
This is pure assault and these FL don't face any sort of consequences.
Imagine if some one called an african using the 'N' word and the drama makes the whole thing funny.
Now imagine almost every Kdrama using the 'N' word on africans as funny.
That is how these assaults are like.
Characters in a drama can be as bad it comes. As long as there is logical end to their actions, the drama will be ok.
These......they are just pure assaults by the FL shown in funny manner. Wonder if viewers would accept ML thrashing FL to pulp being shown as funny?
And yeah, FL getting piss drunk is another unbelievable Kdrama trope. You know where the drunk FL are shown as cute....
Both that actress and character just brightens the show.
men NEVER interact that way.
A group of men who are friends have a understanding of what is off limits. Try hitting one of the friends like FL does ML and there would be blood. Another thing is off limits is your mates girl. Ex or otherwise, strictly off limits.
If any man acted the way FL does with his mates, he would end up in hospital.
The FL's projected in this drama and many other dramas are atrocious.
If it is cultural, it is a much bigger problem.
At this point, these dramas seem to be trying to say men getting physically beaten by women is perfectly fine since the men are unreliable or corrupt etc etc.
A question, can there be reasons for ML to thrash FL as well? most Kdramas have a 2ML with whom FL has a very questionable relationship. A perfectly good excuse for the ML to thrash the crap out of FL.
Another example would be this drama, the FL enters ML house and gets a peek at this bits. A perfectly valid reason for a nice beating. Imagine if a man entered a women's house like that? He would be thrashed as per Kdramas.
Or do you think men should never beat women, no matter the reason?
lastly, being a tomboy has nothing to do with physically beating other men.
An entitled moron who thinks it is her right to abuse and hurt, especially the ML.
The ML is fully capable of thrashing the FL to an inch of her life but somehow he is supposed to pretend to be meek and subjugate himself to the thrashing and abuse from the FL.
Every character in this drama is interesting, except the FL.
She is the typical Kdrama FL.... an abusive loud mouthed moron.
The abusive FL is very unappealing. Kdrams should get over this fascination that FL thrashing ML is funny or alright. It's not alright and it just is disgusting to see FL's in Kdramas being characterized in this manner.
She was supposed to be smart but the list of dumb and dumber things FL did in the drama is what made this drama such a shitshow.
The suspense was not that great but over all a solid drama with nice characters.
FL nailed her role and probably carried the show.
ML role was good but the actor needs more experience acting in romance scenes. Watched him in 'All of us are dead' and he was spectacular in that drama. That role of a brash young guy fits him more than a more nuanced role as this one.
Point being, this is pretty much the norm in Kdramas and Cdramas.
I have made numerous posts on how this violence by FL on ML is perverse, especially as these dramas make light of that said violence.
Take out those scenes of thrashing and you have a very nice story.
But for some reason the writers of these dramas pretty much have these kinds of physical assaults.
when nothing makes logical sense, the only reason is always the simplest one. The viewers like these scenes where the ML in spite of getting thrashed by the FL still loves her - thats probably what the writers want to convey.
The reverse though never happens,
There is not a single drama where the ML thrashing the crap out of FL and the FL keeps loving him.
So, catharsis is the only word that comes to my mind, we don't have to like it but thats what makes most sense.
But boy the men in Cdramas, especially the leads suck.
They are so bad at being men.
My first few Cdramas, I thought the ML's had impotency or some sexual issues.
That's how fake they came across.
This actually gets worse in fantasy Cdramas.
The ML is Eternal Love, he was probably the simpiest, wimpiest and vomit inducing ML ever. He was literally crawling at FL feet and licking them through out the drama.
the idea of a handsome, rich, popular and successful 25 year old man who has never liked a women or looked at women is fakest Cdrama concept.
In reality, these kind of guys would be shagging a new girl every day.
It's catharsis for Cdrama viewers to watch men getting beaten up by women & bonus points if it's the FL abusing ML and he just takes the abuse with a whimper.
This one, I ignored the red flags and the drama is very very good.
Just think of FL thrashing ML's in these dramas as BDSM and it should be fine.
There are numerous Cdramas where the ML simping was outright cringe. You had to be on drugs to watch that kind of simping with straight face. These ML's practically are spineless and crawl at the feet of FL, often times licking the feet.
Looks like that's the preferred ML's by viewers in Cdramas.
Simpy, spineless, very pure and very virgin. Until they meet the FL, the only thing their pecker was used for was urinating and shaken only once after it.
She truly fell for the ML hook, line and sinker.
Very wholesome and heartfelt.