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She is cute but she definitely looks her age, especially close up.
Even from far, she looks like ML's much older sister.
Well, a very beautiful older sister.

besides, thats not the main point.
These kinds of dramas have FL's playing these kinds of cute, outspoken and friendly etc etc women.
Why not have a dignified FL who acts her age for once?

The story is interesting and for a change ML is interesting.

The FL though is boring.
The same clownish girl we see repeated in most Cdramas.
The actress is too old to play such clownish girl character. It was just awkwardly odd watching her portray that kind of FL.

The story is interesting and for a change ML is interesting.

The FL though is boring.
The same clownish girl we see repeated in most Cdramas.
The actress is too old to play such clownish girl character. It was just awkwardly odd watching her portray that kind of FL.

So many crazy mothers in the drama.

Why are there no crazy fathers? Are fathers not that invested in their kids grades in Korea?
Some of the mothers are frighteningly crazy in the drama, I would have thought they would show a father doing similar things.

Is this social phenomenon real and reflection of how some mothers go too far in Korea for their kids future?

Very true.
Biden Jr shagged his sister in law minutes after his brother died.

What's the big deal in shagging your siblings ex's?

Next time Cdramas should be more edgy where the ML breaks up with FL starts shagging her mother.
I mean, nothing wrong if both parties are single and care for each other - right?

You are pretty much victim shaming.
I hope you won't say similar things if it were a woman trying to escape from a control freak of a husband.
Not every person is brave. People in abusive relations run and hide. In fact there are laws in most countries to make this happen.
Being gutless/spineless is not something to be ashamed off. being a control freak with no concern for how your partner is feeling....that is a problem.

Most men in Kdramas and Cdramas are cucked.
The only good men in these dramas are the men who are cucked.

Any man having little spine is basically bad or undeserving of even the crappiest women in the drama.
These dramas would never show reverse where the man is cheating or having multiple partners and the women being fine with it.

Like the FL says, cheating men must die but when her own friend cheats, she is no where as angry.
In these dramas, sex and sexual feelings are only for women. Men, especially good ones, only fall in love once in their life and never waver.

Are we seriously watching the same drama?

The FL is an abusive, manipulative and arrogant person.
ML is a complete wimp who can't even stand up for himself and the FL walks all over him.

Just imagine if there was a female who was always trying to get into ML pants, even in front of the FL.
She could be very caring about the ML and even though ML and FL are together, she will keep interfering in their lives, trying to win over ML and force herself between them, forcing herself on ML physically....

Would your heart hurt for that woman too?

I know and It's pretty much implied at that point when we learn about seclusion. No need for anyone to explicitly state it.
Not really sure why the writers needed to add that, unless the ML has the capability to get it on with the trees and stuff there.

FL's therapy for her daddy issues is hilarious. When her dad walks in on her therapy session, it was just magical.

our ML who trained in solitude for 1500 and remained chaste. Wait, chaste? What's with Cdramas obsession with their ML's chastity? or is it just the subtitles being crap?

This pretty much delivered what it promised.
One of the best choreographed action sequences.

Thank god the romance was pretty much a minor sub plot.

Even the FL is very good.
for all her trauma, she was able to love ML whole-hardheartedly. which is surprisingly rare in Kdramas where most FL's are very shallow.

Why is the onus of 'love' on ML alone?

The FL had no issues enjoying herself with another man & the drama still wants us to believe she loves the ML. Which part of shagging another man showed FL love for the ML? At least we don't see ML shagging other women while trying to control FL's interactions with other men.
The FL was a voilent & abusive control freak. At least thats what the drama is showing.

These dramas make every kind of excuse for FL's shitty character.
It is as if the men around her owe her something.

ML did not even try to communicate with her is just an excuse....as such it is a two way street. If the FL was oblivious to what she was doing to her husband, what does that say about her?

If it was the FL in that kind of shitty relationship, pretty sure this same drama would have justified her leaving the ML or even cheating on him with other man.

Just look at how in earlier episodes where the FL defends her female friend who was cheating on her husband because he had health problems and cant have sex.
The FL had no problem with her friend cheating and does not even get angry.

Sorry but these dramas are so shitty and the 2-3 central female characters don't deserve the men around them. They neither have respect nor love for these men. In fact the FL friend treats her colleague like a sex toy. If this is what these dramas want to show modern women as......don't these writers get that the women in their dramas are basically the worst kind of men?

Thats typical Kdrama and Cdrama modern women.
Loud, violent and horny.

The modern male leads in these dramas though are very subservient to the FL, often getting thrashed and abused.
Most importantly, the ML will be very pure, body and mind only for the FL. They would never sexually objectify any women ever.

The supposed 'good modern men' from these dramas are those who let the women in their life walk all over them.

It depends,

The FL acting is top notch but the age shows at a lot of times.
She is playing a character 15 years younger than her. It would not matter if a 35 year is playing a 20 year old because at 35 with correct make up etc etc you can cover up.
but a 50 year old playing 35 year old....it kind of becomes obvious.

the actress nails the FL character but at times it is pretty obvious that what we are seeing on screen is not a 35 year old.

There are numerous female centric Kdramas and Cdramas I absolutely adore and none of them are romance ones.
More than Cdramas, it is Kdramas that shine in female centric ones, as long as there is no romance or romance is a sub plot.

female centric romance dramas are the worst kind of Cdrama and kdramas.
it just is impossible to overlook the character inconsistencies and cringe ML who is barely a supporting character.

In fact I stopped watching the Cdramas romance fantasies completely. It is always the same plot.
The FL will have ML and 2ML around her for most of the drama. The love triangle will be there for most of the drama. The story and characters are so predictable and boring with nothing left to look forward to.

ML should run from FL,
instead of faking, he should just shag some other woman and get his ex out of his system and mind.

FL does not deserve anyone in her life.
A narcissist and self centered human & people like that rarely change. They believe everyone and the world owes them something.

It was pretty apparent in her abuse of ML right at the start of the drama. it's always me, me, me and more me.

The man should run and should not look back.

I did watch ALP, it is really good. One of the best Cdramas last year.
Through out ALP, you could see ML and FL at various instances showing how they cared for each other.
Probably why I liked it.

Romance dramas should not be female centric since it takes 2 people for romance. Unless the dramas balance out, the ML in these dramas will continue to come across as fake and idiots.

There are a lot of female centric dramas where romance is sub-plot. That is perfectly fine by me. In fact, Eternal Love is a female centric drama with romance as a sub plot. Problem with this drama was not keeping romance as a sub plot. It caused lot of character inconsistencies and ML coming across as wimp.

In fact compare Xu Kai's roles in ALP and She and her perfect husband. In ALP he shines because the drama takes a lot of time to grow his character. Towards the end when we learn what his final plan was, we are hit in the gut. That drama took great care of both the central characters since romance is a central theme.

And this is where Eternal Love and She and her husband fails. The drama wants to keep romance as central plot but the ML who forms the central half of the central plot, which is romance, is never fully fleshed out.
Xu Kai in this drama is not main lead, he is at best a supporting character. In a romance story that's a fatal mistake.
Same in Eternal Love, the ML is not even a main supporting character. In many episodes he is barely there. That's why the whole love story plot felt awkward, out of place and fake.

You are right on that ML felt immensely guilty about what happened to his wife.
He was so in love with her that he was willing to follow her to death.

His character was perfectly fine until that point, a doting and loving lover and husband.

May be door mat thing was little excessive but he was more or less that way.
He never stood up for himself. In any relationship, if one party is not willing to stand up for themselves, it's a failed relationship. Through out the latter half of the drama, the ML had many chances to stand up and tell the FL how she screwed up but that never happens.

Anyway, for me what threw me off was the fact that FL never does anything for the ML. It was one way street from ML to the FL.

May be my biases of watching way too many Cdramas with similar ML's who are so love in the FL that nothing else is visible to them apart from the FL
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in these same dramas the FL's towards the ML are like...meh, I love him but I have many other important things and people.