Spoilers - Not sure why the writers felt the need to change the story & more importantly characters from webtoon. The webtoon was perfect. FL in webtoon falls in love ML and chooses him over her crush. Here they changed it to her crush NOT being available, so she now seems to go to the ML on a rebound. In the webtoon, both wanted to be with each other and chose each other. Now it looks like FL will be the ML because her first choice is no longer available. And the only time FL cries in the webtoon was when she realizes she loves the ML and thinks he does not love her back. The whole FL crying in front of ML over another man is straight out of Cdrama & a detestable cliche. Not sue why they would insert such a trashy Cdrama cliche which was not in the webtoon here.
ML in the drama is no Taemu from the webtoon. For those who have doubts read the webtoon. Taemu in webtoon is absolute master of everything he sees, nothing and no one affects him. The only person who makes him lose his control is the FL.
The Handsome & cold CEO with adorable girl trope makes for a great story, the webtoon did it perfectly. Not sure why the writers of the drama felt the need to make changes which clearly made the drama worse.
If there was no webtoon, the current drama would have been pretty good. It's pretty hard not to compare it to the original material and feel disappointed since the toon is damn near perfect in what it wanted to show.
So you can be engaged, planning your wedding, cheating, but if your cheating partner has lived with her ex, that's…
It does not stop there..
This guy does not want his ex to move on and be with other men. The actor is playing the repulsive guy very well.
After watching Korean and Chinese dramas, I think romance as a genre is very subverted. It's more love than sex, as if it's a crime to have sexual feelings. Every time I watch a Chinese romance drama, I am amazed and confused at the portrayal of romance. There literally is no sexual tension or attraction portrayed. It's all about love. Keep scratching my head thinking if these characters skip puberty altogether?!
I kind of get wanting to have it out with the ex in private hence dragging him away by the tie. I think he never…
He is not just an ex. They did not separate because they fell out of love or split up because they did not work out like the ML and 2FL.
She was humiliated by him to such a degree where she had decided to even leave the country for a while.
He keeps over-stepping boundaries repeatedly. The best thing to do in those situations is either ignore it or escalate it NOT take him to the side and hear him out.
But it is all minor. FL does deal with him fairly overall. She still seems to be a bit sympathetic to him but outside of that nothing more.
First of all, this is not a fluffy teen drama. This is primarily targeted towards adult audiences. The show deals with grown up issues between people who have been hurt. Totally different genre.
FL needs to learn to send the message of NO to her ex. That guy repeatedly takes advantage of her & even comes to her home drunk. FL at that point should not have entertained the guy. Either call his wife or ask one of the 3 guys there to dump him outside. From the previews it does look like she continues to engage and entertain the ex in certain meaningful way. And it's good that ML calls her out.
The continued entitlement of the ex and the FL being embarrassed is regressive. This was the time for FL to stand her ground and told the ex to FkOff and it's none of his business.
The FL's dad is shameless. Why are two women even fighting over this garbage?!
The FL has become extremely dumb and passive. She is married to the guy who is central to destroying her life, death of her grand dad and he even has another family going on the side. Talk about getting screwed royally by some one and not even have an idea about it. She is very very passive at this point. Irony is that she only fights with the ML and with everyone else she rolls over and presents her bottom to be spanked.
Just swap the genders and imagine if it was the ML entering into FL's life, seduce her and use her to get his…
fairly put.
could say my disappointment was mainly due to the character growth for 30 episodes was thrown out of the window in last 10 episodes.
Thats why I felt the writers could have just down the revenge route. The FL just wants revenge and gets it. In process she manipulates anyone to achieve what she want's. I would definitely watch that drama. This one confused me.
Another strong episode. Explores the deepest fears both leads have, the trauma they have gone through and their vulnerabilities. Just lobed how the FL after learning about the truth was kind, understanding and yet said what needed to be said.
Just a minor quibble. The FL is just too good for her own good. Why would she help her cheating ex?! That guy kicked the FL in her nuts and yet....wished she stood her ground and gave him middle finger.
Starting to understand more about why the ex-gf of ML dumped him. With father like that she would have been under some pressure. Little wonder ML is not too angry with her cheating ways. With father like that, it would take a really strong woman to deal with him and still retain the relationship.
That father, yuck. Even deadbeats retain bit of parental love for their off spring.
the show has 25+ episodes driven by amnesia plot, which basically forms the core of the drama. That's ridiculous.
There are so many wonderful plot lines that can used to drive a plot.
There are many relationships that needs fixing and exploration but not enough time is being spent of them. Instead we are subjected to weekly dose of amnesia of a retarded chairman for months.
Just swap the genders and imagine if it was the ML entering into FL's life, seduce her and use her to get his…
so, you are ok with a guy seducing daughter of his enemy to get revenge? The daughter is completely innocent and yet we would all be ok if the man just manipulated and seduced her to achieve his goals and then just do nasty things when the goal is near...
If this was a revenge story, we would say the guy is bad but his revenge is justified even if the means to to the end was wrong. That basically would be the end of it.
In so far even I am wondering if we are watching the same drama especially the last 10 episodes!
The whole premise that him being son of bad person and his sisters being daughters of bad person deserve what happened to them is wrong.
Just swap the genders and imagine if it was the ML entering into FL's life, seduce her and use her to get his…
I have read on these very forums where numerous people would not like if the FL chased after the ML. The numerous posts calling out for FL to have dignity or not to love ML too much or not to choose ML over her career or other things. her revenge is justified. heck, her revenge is more justified than her love. We are all glad that she took her revenge and not choose love. In the process she destroyed ML and his sisters - so be it. We want her to be strong and go on with her revenge.
On the other end, the expectation from ML is to just keep loving the FL no matter what she does. ML, irrespective of his circumstances should be absolutely stead fast in his love for the FL and never waver even for a second. If he does, he does not deserve the FL. In this drama, the ML remains a tool to prop up the FL and nothing more.
This in a nut shell has been the underlying theme of most of the Cdramas I have watched this year. The FL should barely love the ML and her own things and interests and goals are the top most priority, while for ML the FL is the top most priority and must sacrifice heaven and earth to be with her.
Whenever you watch a drama with underlying themes like above, you get a feel that the Cdrama FL don't want a strong partner but a doormat who they stomp on at their whims and fancies.
Just swap the genders and imagine if it was the ML entering into FL's life, seduce her and use her to get his…
Either make it a love story where love triumphs all obstacles OR make it a revenge story.
All we got was a half baked one.
Watching last 10 episodes it's really hard to believe ML would ever consider being with the FL ever. If the drama writers wanted the happy ending shown to us, the last 10 episodes don't make sense.
After everything the FL did, the ML was just supposed to forget and forgive and do a happy dance with her? Would any person with iota of dignity or sanity consider being with FL after what she did to them?
It's not a dig at the FL. It's a dig at the inconsistency of the story and characters.
I truly don’t get why everyone is whining.. I mean the main focus was on revenge from the start, I don’t know…
Just swap the genders and imagine if it was the ML entering into FL's life, seduce her and use her to get his revenge.
And then imagine what transpired after the 30the episode with ML leaving the FL in lurch and going into full on revenge mode with all the other scenes factored in.
Spoilers -
Not sure why the writers felt the need to change the story & more importantly characters from webtoon.
The webtoon was perfect.
FL in webtoon falls in love ML and chooses him over her crush. Here they changed it to her crush NOT being available, so she now seems to go to the ML on a rebound.
In the webtoon, both wanted to be with each other and chose each other. Now it looks like FL will be the ML because her first choice is no longer available.
And the only time FL cries in the webtoon was when she realizes she loves the ML and thinks he does not love her back.
The whole FL crying in front of ML over another man is straight out of Cdrama & a detestable cliche. Not sue why they would insert such a trashy Cdrama cliche which was not in the webtoon here.
ML in the drama is no Taemu from the webtoon.
For those who have doubts read the webtoon.
Taemu in webtoon is absolute master of everything he sees, nothing and no one affects him. The only person who makes him lose his control is the FL.
The Handsome & cold CEO with adorable girl trope makes for a great story, the webtoon did it perfectly. Not sure why the writers of the drama felt the need to make changes which clearly made the drama worse.
If there was no webtoon, the current drama would have been pretty good.
It's pretty hard not to compare it to the original material and feel disappointed since the toon is damn near perfect in what it wanted to show.
ML needs bit more range of expressions.
FL was pretty good
Should have retained the one in webtoon for the drama instead of making the character bit of a comedian.
The drama is still very good though.
This guy does not want his ex to move on and be with other men.
The actor is playing the repulsive guy very well.
After watching Korean and Chinese dramas, I think romance as a genre is very subverted. It's more love than sex, as if it's a crime to have sexual feelings.
Every time I watch a Chinese romance drama, I am amazed and confused at the portrayal of romance. There literally is no sexual tension or attraction portrayed. It's all about love.
Keep scratching my head thinking if these characters skip puberty altogether?!
Mid way through, this drama had so much potential and the lazy writers destroyed this drama.
The men are so cowardly and pathetic.
If only the ML has 1% of courage and commonsense that the FL had...
She was humiliated by him to such a degree where she had decided to even leave the country for a while.
He keeps over-stepping boundaries repeatedly.
The best thing to do in those situations is either ignore it or escalate it NOT take him to the side and hear him out.
But it is all minor. FL does deal with him fairly overall. She still seems to be a bit sympathetic to him but outside of that nothing more.
First of all, this is not a fluffy teen drama. This is primarily targeted towards adult audiences. The show deals with grown up issues between people who have been hurt.
Totally different genre.
FL needs to learn to send the message of NO to her ex.
That guy repeatedly takes advantage of her & even comes to her home drunk.
FL at that point should not have entertained the guy. Either call his wife or ask one of the 3 guys there to dump him outside.
From the previews it does look like she continues to engage and entertain the ex in certain meaningful way. And it's good that ML calls her out.
The continued entitlement of the ex and the FL being embarrassed is regressive.
This was the time for FL to stand her ground and told the ex to FkOff and it's none of his business.
Why are two women even fighting over this garbage?!
The FL has become extremely dumb and passive.
She is married to the guy who is central to destroying her life, death of her grand dad and he even has another family going on the side.
Talk about getting screwed royally by some one and not even have an idea about it.
She is very very passive at this point. Irony is that she only fights with the ML and with everyone else she rolls over and presents her bottom to be spanked.
could say my disappointment was mainly due to the character growth for 30 episodes was thrown out of the window in last 10 episodes.
Thats why I felt the writers could have just down the revenge route. The FL just wants revenge and gets it. In process she manipulates anyone to achieve what she want's.
I would definitely watch that drama.
This one confused me.
Explores the deepest fears both leads have, the trauma they have gone through and their vulnerabilities.
Just lobed how the FL after learning about the truth was kind, understanding and yet said what needed to be said.
Just a minor quibble. The FL is just too good for her own good.
Why would she help her cheating ex?! That guy kicked the FL in her nuts and yet....wished she stood her ground and gave him middle finger.
Starting to understand more about why the ex-gf of ML dumped him. With father like that she would have been under some pressure. Little wonder ML is not too angry with her cheating ways. With father like that, it would take a really strong woman to deal with him and still retain the relationship.
That father, yuck. Even deadbeats retain bit of parental love for their off spring.
the show has 25+ episodes driven by amnesia plot, which basically forms the core of the drama. That's ridiculous.
There are so many wonderful plot lines that can used to drive a plot.
There are many relationships that needs fixing and exploration but not enough time is being spent of them. Instead we are subjected to weekly dose of amnesia of a retarded chairman for months.
Nothing new but it was an enjoyable watch none the less.
It was very easy to root for ML and FL and their happiness.
Need a new name for this drama.
The daughter is completely innocent and yet we would all be ok if the man just manipulated and seduced her to achieve his goals and then just do nasty things when the goal is near...
If this was a revenge story, we would say the guy is bad but his revenge is justified even if the means to to the end was wrong. That basically would be the end of it.
In so far even I am wondering if we are watching the same drama especially the last 10 episodes!
The whole premise that him being son of bad person and his sisters being daughters of bad person deserve what happened to them is wrong.
her revenge is justified. heck, her revenge is more justified than her love. We are all glad that she took her revenge and not choose love. In the process she destroyed ML and his sisters - so be it. We want her to be strong and go on with her revenge.
On the other end, the expectation from ML is to just keep loving the FL no matter what she does. ML, irrespective of his circumstances should be absolutely stead fast in his love for the FL and never waver even for a second. If he does, he does not deserve the FL.
In this drama, the ML remains a tool to prop up the FL and nothing more.
This in a nut shell has been the underlying theme of most of the Cdramas I have watched this year.
The FL should barely love the ML and her own things and interests and goals are the top most priority, while for ML the FL is the top most priority and must sacrifice heaven and earth to be with her.
Whenever you watch a drama with underlying themes like above, you get a feel that the Cdrama FL don't want a strong partner but a doormat who they stomp on at their whims and fancies.
make it a revenge story.
All we got was a half baked one.
Watching last 10 episodes it's really hard to believe ML would ever consider being with the FL ever.
If the drama writers wanted the happy ending shown to us, the last 10 episodes don't make sense.
After everything the FL did, the ML was just supposed to forget and forgive and do a happy dance with her?
Would any person with iota of dignity or sanity consider being with FL after what she did to them?
It's not a dig at the FL.
It's a dig at the inconsistency of the story and characters.
And then imagine what transpired after the 30the episode with ML leaving the FL in lurch and going into full on revenge mode with all the other scenes factored in.