It's indeed irritating, but very common for cn dramas. They just don't feel the right moment to stop. For example,…
What is a man who is related to you but you have no romantic feelings for? Father or brother. We need to take the FL words for it & not twist it to suit our narrative. A brother sister relationship is not always by blood, it can happen due to circumstances - in this case the FL knew him right since she was a toddler. in some cases it can be cohabitation since childhood etc etc.
QM falling for HC and his chasing her does not compare to this. Their prior history is different and HC does not view QM as sibling.
May be it's a cultural thing and I am reading it wrong but when a girl tells a guy she views as an elder brother - the chasing should stop. I can understand if she treats him as a friend and thats a window open for a future romance but elder brother/father figure....thats a complete stop at that point.
Honestly, Tian Qi is kind of the person who jokes around half the time, but takes others' emotions into account.…
Somehow it does not come across that way,
There are many internal thoughts of his in present timeline where he is lamenting on why Hou Chi did not choose him.
Take his romantic feelings for the FL, he comes across as a wonderful character to root for. Or the authors could have decided to make him as friend to Fl, it would not have felt creepy.
It's indeed irritating, but very common for cn dramas. They just don't feel the right moment to stop. For example,…
It's not that he is chasing that is bothering me. You need such kind of characters to spice up the drama & we can all hate those characters as it's intended.
What bothered me here was the existing nature of their relationship. The FL sees him as a brother and him just keeping at it feels perverse.
This sly incest trope is very common in Cdramas. It does not add depth to the drama except make it feel creepy. This incidentally is the 4th or 5th Cdrama this year where the FL treats a guy as brother, calls his as brother and the idiot confesses. And when you look at the physical interactions with them - it feels wrong since FL thinks as brother & the brother has hots for his sister.
Although his affection for the FL is way to much and that does irritate us sometime but the good thing is he is…
Define forced?
At this point he is forcing it. She already rejected him and chose some one else. Anything this guy is doing after that is forcing himself.
And that's not my main objection to this. If he was a normal friend and is there for her and in the process she starts liking him, that's a different trope and acceptable.. BUT She treats him as brother & he does not treat her as sister. She lost her memories, he is looking to take advantage of that and lure her. Imagine sister loosing memories and her brother trying to get into her pants.
Him being there for her at this point does not come from a good intention, unlike Hou Chi's father who is there for the FL just as a father. just as an example, Imagine Hou Chi father after revealing that she is is not his daughter, starts hitting on her romantically - creepy, isn't it? That's exactly how it feels when Tian Qi is trying to score on a girl who thinks of him as brother.
These kinds of tropes leave a bad taste in the mouth & come across as border line incest, especially when you consider Tian Qi would have held FL as a baby. In Cdramas, these kinds of trope's are common & it's very uncomfortable watching it.
FL looks at him as her brother. Imagine thinking of a girl who thinks of you as her brother in such perverse manner. That he would not stop that line of thinking even after the FL made it clear how sees him is a fatal flaw in him.
At this point his affection towards the FL comes across as perverse.
Hi! Which Eternal Love were you talking about? Is it the one with Yang Mi and Mark Chao?
Lets not confuse the cause and effect.
the cause of FL misery is because she chooses to become more powerful, the effect of FL choosing to become powerful not only put her through misery but also dragged in ML and caused him misery. All the horrible things happened to her stems from her choice to go through the misery to gain more power. What exactly did ML gain? broken heart?
Once she gains power, she chooses to forget the misery and leaves the ML high and dry. She is a goddess and she knew what ever happened is NOT because ML did but because she CHOSE to become a goddess.
Well, she because a goddess, threw her husband and child and in dustbin and carried on with her life.
FL wanting to become powerful dragged in ML into her misery - that is central point which the ML mother hammers into FL after the death of ML.
What exactly did FL gain after the misery? - yeah, LOT of power. What exactly did ML gain after the misery FL choices put him through?
Hi! Which Eternal Love were you talking about? Is it the one with Yang Mi and Mark Chao?
Thats the whole point, it was what she HAD to go through, whether the ML was there or not. She chose to go through that tribulation, let's not forget that. What happened to her was not what the ML did but what would happen to her anyway. It was destiny as part of her process to become a goddess.
After the ML dies, his mother has a talk with the FL when she refuses to hand over the body. That scene explains how horribly FL treated the ML.
Hi! Which Eternal Love were you talking about? Is it the one with Yang Mi and Mark Chao?
Well, the story goes as below. - FL undergoes tribulation to become godess - As part of that she has to suffer - ML accompanies her in her tribulation and even protects her a lot of times during her tribulation - Her tribulation ends when she kills her self, the ML tries to accompany her - Then FL becomes goddess and chooses to forget her husband and child and removes those memories as part of becoming a goddess (first shitty thing the FL does) - ML does not know FL has become a goddess and is alive (at least thats how I remember it) - After seeing her, he realizes who she is but does not tell her straight away (should he have? may be but it was FL choice to forget it not ML) - During this whole process, she is using ML love her to make him dance to her tunes to do things important to her, which incidentally have nothing to do with ML - When she regains her memory, she gets angry at the ML, not sure why & it was pathetic to see a grown man begging her on her knees when she was the one who abandoned him and their child
After he dies, then suddenly she remembers how much she loved him, as if the viewers believe that.
In a love story, the main thing to look for is who is willing to go to the lengths to protect that love. In Eternal love it was only the ML willing to walk that journey. The Fl abandoned and abused the love of ML. Just because she regrets his death and drinks herself silly for few years after his death should not change the fact she treated him like dirt when he was alive.
Hi! Which Eternal Love were you talking about? Is it the one with Yang Mi and Mark Chao?
between keeping secrets and abandoning loved one, which one is worse? Understand your point but remember, it was what the FL had to go through to become a goddess. She got what she wanted and evolved into a Goddess, what did the ML get? And to make it worse, the last arc where she remembers and somehow holds ML accountable for what she went through in her tribulation to become a goddess - it was just shitty.
That's why mua opinion that Eternal Love did not the right spot for me.
This one is going into the list of all time fav dramas, right up there with Love & redemption.
Drama does justice to the core of it's theme, the desperate love between two people and the lengths they go to protect it.
Eternal Love is on the list of fav of many people but I hated the FL. She did not deserve the ML at the end. For that FL the ML was never her first priority right until his death. I have no idea why it was called 'Eternal Love', instead it should have been called 'Eternal Love of Male Lead'.
Contrary to it, this one is beautiful where both the ML and FL show their desperation to protect and cherish their love. Each arc of their lives is beautiful and it's endearing to see them fall in love with each other in every life. Similarly Love & Redemption was great, what ML does for the FL for many lives and the redemption arc of the FL read - it was absolutely fantastic.
A great love story is one where you can see both ML and FL longing for each other & desperate to protect what's dearest to them. This show hits the right spots in that aspect,
I'm usually not a second lead preferring type of person but in this drama, the second male lead is better than…
Neither brother deserves that kind of horrible girl.
FL dates ML, stabs him, leaves him for dead & starts frolicking with ML's brother.
And then she starts crying as if she is in deep love with ML. We viewers should pretend the hugging and smiling and romance of FL with the younger brother did not happen & what she has is true love with the ML.
The ML should have dumped her ass and left to the younger brother. Both these cheaters deserve each other.
Father or brother.
We need to take the FL words for it & not twist it to suit our narrative. A brother sister relationship is not always by blood, it can happen due to circumstances - in this case the FL knew him right since she was a toddler. in some cases it can be cohabitation since childhood etc etc.
QM falling for HC and his chasing her does not compare to this.
Their prior history is different and HC does not view QM as sibling.
May be it's a cultural thing and I am reading it wrong but when a girl tells a guy she views as an elder brother - the chasing should stop.
I can understand if she treats him as a friend and thats a window open for a future romance but elder brother/father figure....thats a complete stop at that point.
There are many internal thoughts of his in present timeline where he is lamenting on why Hou Chi did not choose him.
Take his romantic feelings for the FL, he comes across as a wonderful character to root for.
Or the authors could have decided to make him as friend to Fl, it would not have felt creepy.
Re-watch that episode and let me know if you still think the same :)
It's not intentional to make it feel perverted,
it comes across as such since the FL explicitly defines how she sees him.
Tian Qi character is wonderful & funny if not for his hots for a girl who thinks of him as a brother. That single flaw turned him into a creep.
You need such kind of characters to spice up the drama & we can all hate those characters as it's intended.
What bothered me here was the existing nature of their relationship. The FL sees him as a brother and him just keeping at it feels perverse.
This sly incest trope is very common in Cdramas. It does not add depth to the drama except make it feel creepy.
This incidentally is the 4th or 5th Cdrama this year where the FL treats a guy as brother, calls his as brother and the idiot confesses. And when you look at the physical interactions with them - it feels wrong since FL thinks as brother & the brother has hots for his sister.
At this point he is forcing it. She already rejected him and chose some one else.
Anything this guy is doing after that is forcing himself.
And that's not my main objection to this.
If he was a normal friend and is there for her and in the process she starts liking him, that's a different trope and acceptable..
BUT
She treats him as brother & he does not treat her as sister.
She lost her memories, he is looking to take advantage of that and lure her. Imagine sister loosing memories and her brother trying to get into her pants.
Him being there for her at this point does not come from a good intention, unlike Hou Chi's father who is there for the FL just as a father.
just as an example, Imagine Hou Chi father after revealing that she is is not his daughter, starts hitting on her romantically - creepy, isn't it?
That's exactly how it feels when Tian Qi is trying to score on a girl who thinks of him as brother.
These kinds of tropes leave a bad taste in the mouth & come across as border line incest, especially when you consider Tian Qi would have held FL as a baby.
In Cdramas, these kinds of trope's are common & it's very uncomfortable watching it.
FL looks at him as her brother. Imagine thinking of a girl who thinks of you as her brother in such perverse manner.
That he would not stop that line of thinking even after the FL made it clear how sees him is a fatal flaw in him.
At this point his affection towards the FL comes across as perverse.
he could not protect her always & he takes lot of punishment for her as well.
Missing the main point here - FL had to go through that misery & it was her choice to go through that misery to become a goddess and not the ML's
the cause of FL misery is because she chooses to become more powerful,
the effect of FL choosing to become powerful not only put her through misery but also dragged in ML and caused him misery.
All the horrible things happened to her stems from her choice to go through the misery to gain more power.
What exactly did ML gain? broken heart?
Once she gains power, she chooses to forget the misery and leaves the ML high and dry.
She is a goddess and she knew what ever happened is NOT because ML did but because she CHOSE to become a goddess.
Well, she because a goddess, threw her husband and child and in dustbin and carried on with her life.
FL wanting to become powerful dragged in ML into her misery - that is central point which the ML mother hammers into FL after the death of ML.
What exactly did FL gain after the misery? - yeah, LOT of power.
What exactly did ML gain after the misery FL choices put him through?
is it better than the drama?
She chose to go through that tribulation, let's not forget that. What happened to her was not what the ML did but what would happen to her anyway. It was destiny as part of her process to become a goddess.
After the ML dies, his mother has a talk with the FL when she refuses to hand over the body. That scene explains how horribly FL treated the ML.
- FL undergoes tribulation to become godess
- As part of that she has to suffer
- ML accompanies her in her tribulation and even protects her a lot of times during her tribulation
- Her tribulation ends when she kills her self, the ML tries to accompany her
- Then FL becomes goddess and chooses to forget her husband and child and removes those memories as part of becoming a goddess (first shitty thing the FL does)
- ML does not know FL has become a goddess and is alive (at least thats how I remember it)
- After seeing her, he realizes who she is but does not tell her straight away (should he have? may be but it was FL choice to forget it not ML)
- During this whole process, she is using ML love her to make him dance to her tunes to do things important to her, which incidentally have nothing to do with ML
- When she regains her memory, she gets angry at the ML, not sure why & it was pathetic to see a grown man begging her on her knees when she was the one who abandoned him and their child
After he dies, then suddenly she remembers how much she loved him, as if the viewers believe that.
In a love story, the main thing to look for is who is willing to go to the lengths to protect that love. In Eternal love it was only the ML willing to walk that journey. The Fl abandoned and abused the love of ML.
Just because she regrets his death and drinks herself silly for few years after his death should not change the fact she treated him like dirt when he was alive.
Understand your point but remember, it was what the FL had to go through to become a goddess. She got what she wanted and evolved into a Goddess, what did the ML get? And to make it worse, the last arc where she remembers and somehow holds ML accountable for what she went through in her tribulation to become a goddess - it was just shitty.
That's why mua opinion that Eternal Love did not the right spot for me.
Drama does justice to the core of it's theme, the desperate love between two people and the lengths they go to protect it.
Eternal Love is on the list of fav of many people but I hated the FL. She did not deserve the ML at the end. For that FL the ML was never her first priority right until his death. I have no idea why it was called 'Eternal Love', instead it should have been called 'Eternal Love of Male Lead'.
Contrary to it, this one is beautiful where both the ML and FL show their desperation to protect and cherish their love. Each arc of their lives is beautiful and it's endearing to see them fall in love with each other in every life.
Similarly Love & Redemption was great, what ML does for the FL for many lives and the redemption arc of the FL read - it was absolutely fantastic.
A great love story is one where you can see both ML and FL longing for each other & desperate to protect what's dearest to them. This show hits the right spots in that aspect,
SML went after her when she and his brother got together.
There are some things that are off limits. Brother's girl is absolutely off limits, regardless of who saw whom first.
Imagine if the FL had a sister and ML dated both sisters - it would be disgusting, right?
Not really sure what to say at this point!
FL dates ML, stabs him, leaves him for dead & starts frolicking with ML's brother.
And then she starts crying as if she is in deep love with ML.
We viewers should pretend the hugging and smiling and romance of FL with the younger brother did not happen & what she has is true love with the ML.
The ML should have dumped her ass and left to the younger brother. Both these cheaters deserve each other.