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Replying to mooc Apr 11, 2024
Yes.Like most romance Kdramas, the ML is pretty much a doormat and a huge simp. This drama he gets screwed by…
it's not about who comes from which background.

It's about character growth.

Why should ML cares about FL background and toxic family? is he in a position to care when he is being abused by her and her family?
the one who should care and change is the FL and she does not care to change or make amends.

the crying, crawling and begging is being done by ML, which defies logic.
The dude just forgot he got screwed by his wife and her family for years.
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Replying to angel Apr 11, 2024
does the characters develop? im on episode 2, ive heard alot of good things about this show and i wanna like it
ML develops where he becomes a toddler who is always crying, wailing and crawling on his bum, crying for some milk.

FL develops and becomes even more narcissistic, wallowing in self pity and tells every except the ML how much she loves him and turns around to abuse him some more.
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Replying to Precious Apr 11, 2024
Ep 10 will explain what happened between them.
her inability to express herself is the least of her issues.

She repeated puts down and insults ML in public and private to the point where feels emasculated and jealous.
And the whole abuse from her family is on another level.

Even if she is emotionally damaged, the writers need to address it and make sure she properly addresses the bad things she has done to ML.
It can't be a one way street where the ML is begging, crying and crawling - especially when he is victim of her and her family atrocities.

Most Kdramas have ML's with traumas and they eventually crawl and beg FL and overcome their trauma.
This FL in this drama need to do some crawling and begging to win over the man she and her family abused,

BUT, we will never see her even do anything remotely like that.
101 of Kdramas - the FL never says sorry or begs a man, especially if he is ML or puts herself down for him.
It's always the ML who will do those things in Kdramas.

If genders were reversed, we would be cheering for FL to dump the abusive ML and his even more abusive family to stew in their own vomit and settle with some other man who appreciates her.
But, in Kdramas, no matter how much ML suffers and gets abused on, he will be the one who always begs, cries, crawls, whimpers and licks the feet of FL.
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Replying to mooc Apr 11, 2024
Yes.Like most romance Kdramas, the ML is pretty much a doormat and a huge simp. This drama he gets screwed by…
Kdrama 101 - the FL never apologizes, never. She is never wrong. She also never loves the ML as much ML loves her.
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Replying to mooc Apr 11, 2024
Yes.Like most romance Kdramas, the ML is pretty much a doormat and a huge simp. This drama he gets screwed by…
FL being the boss is not what reverses gender.

It's the basic characteristics of ML and FL in Kdramas that determine if those tropes have been reversed or not.

This ML in this drama is similar to all the ML's in every Kdrama romance in last few years.
His only love is FL, never had any other woman in his life, he is desperate to win over FL, he crawls on his bum for FL, takes tremendous amount of abuse from FL and still is the one begging.

The FL in this drama is similar to all the FL's in every Kdrama romance in last few years.
There are other men around her, those men are used to make ML jealous and insecure. FL barely loves ML, never makes any sacrifice for him, Never have any FL in Kdrama history has crawled on her bum begging for ML's love. More often than not, they have past boyfriends and current dodgy men who are in love with her and all these men are in ML's face all through the drama.

Oh yeah, multiple men touch the FL in all Kdramas.
The ML on the other hand does not even breathe same air that has been in another woman's lungs.
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Replying to Precious Apr 11, 2024
Ep 10 will explain what happened between them.
but that's now what that person was asking.

She is always selfish and has not even put herself and her emotions online to tune of 1% of what ML has done.
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 11, 2024
Well, it wasn't a woman who fired the precise kill shot of a wild boar. 😂or, single-handedly fought off four…
What did she do for him? Do explain?

And compare that what Ml did for her and her family.
And also compare the number of times she belittles him publicly and privately. The number of times her family makes his very existence miserable. She basically cucks him few times using the 2ML.

no, if she was not the FL of this drama, that's pretty much someone you would want ML to run away from.
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Replying to mooc Apr 11, 2024
Yes.Like most romance Kdramas, the ML is pretty much a doormat and a huge simp. This drama he gets screwed by…
There are no gender reversed Kdramas.

All Kdramas pretty much have the same ML and same FL in all dramas.
the ML is expressive, love that defies logic, simpy, wimpy and weepy
FL who tells she loves ML but rarely shows it, demanding, domineering, makes ML work to win her over and always have few other men around her.
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Replying to LightCypher Apr 10, 2024
Is this show primarily for female audience?
Yes,

It basically a show where the FL even after repeatedly abuses the ML and neglects him gets him to crawl on his bum for most part of the drama.
ML is always crying and begging and getting jealous over other men, declaring his undying unconditional love etc etc...you get the picture.
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Replying to Precious Apr 10, 2024
Ep 10 will explain what happened between them.
explaining does not amount to anything unless she apologizes and starts making amends for the hell she put her husband through.
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Replying to ansa Apr 10, 2024
haein is kind of getting on my nerves with her selfishness. I’m only on ep 7 so don’t come at me yet if she…
She does not change.
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Replying to Kathryn_51 Apr 10, 2024
Well, it wasn't a woman who fired the precise kill shot of a wild boar. 😂or, single-handedly fought off four…
It is one of the many things, from crying to begging to simping and getting jealous to not having any female friends to not standing up to his abusive wife and in-laws...we can go on..

It's not one of two things,
it's a host of dozens of things.

If showing emotions and doing things for person you love is strength, why don't the FL's do it in Kdramas? Why is it always the ML's chasing, doing things and simping in each and every drama and not the FL?
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Replying to Drama watcher Apr 10, 2024
is this drama one of where all women strong and independent and all men weak and soft and They do everything for…
Yes.

Like most romance Kdramas, the ML is pretty much a doormat and a huge simp. This drama he gets screwed by FL and her family for years and still he is the one crying like a little girl at the drop of a hat and liking dirt off FL feet.

The FL, like every other Kdrama FL is never wrong, no matter how abusive she is and never tries to make amends or say sorry or anything silly like that.

the ML is romance Kdramas have become so pathetic and ugly to look at.
At this point no one can convince these ML's are men from any angle,
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Replying to 11774507 Apr 8, 2024
Keep watching. When his mother finds out she will give him a beating and call him a scumbag to his face!
If his mom knows the torture he went through at the hands of FL and her family, he would kick them out in an instant and probably kill the FL herself
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Replying to mooc Apr 8, 2024
if the ML was normal, then by his age he would have had a lot of girl friends.Kdramas and Cdramas use COLD as…
I can post 10 Cdramas and Kdramas released this year that follow this pattern.

Why not look at the ones on air for starters. How about 'queen of tears'? The number of times 2ML touches FL is...
and on flip side, the ML pretty much stays a mile away from nearest female.

Pick any Xu Kai's drama in last 2 years, you will see exactly this pattern play out in each and every drama of his.
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Replying to mooc Apr 8, 2024
if the ML was normal, then by his age he would have had a lot of girl friends.Kdramas and Cdramas use COLD as…
it's exactly as I posted.

Cdramas and even kdramas surround FL with men and they never hesitate to touch her as they please.

take this drama as an example and the amount of times 2ML touches the FL.

now compare how many times ML touches his female friend who he knew since they were young.

This is by design, FL getting fondled by multiple men sells in Kdramas and Cdramas.
In fact, Xu kai's last period drama, there is a whole episode of 2ML rolling around with knocked out FL in hay, I mean literally, he keeps rolling all over her - this was after ML and FL are married.

It looks like it is what the audience of these dramas demand.
ML keeping himself extremely pure by not having any sort of contact any females
and the FL keeps getting fondled by as many men as possible, especially 2ML who happen to their bosom buddies.
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Replying to latte- Apr 8, 2024
This drama looks bad, saw some clips on tiktok and already have a bad opinion on it, the typical "COLD" ML is…
if the ML was normal, then by his age he would have had a lot of girl friends.
Kdramas and Cdramas use COLD as trope to keep ML away from women.

You can see in all these dramas, the only woman ML is ever close to in his life is the FL and no one else.
The FL on other hand is very open and very often gets fondled by a lot of her male friends. This trope on FL is to have as many men in FL life as possible.
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Replying to nosnoop Apr 7, 2024
I see nothing wrong.She is portrayed as a strong character brought up in a rich family where everyone gets whatever…
I don't see FL being strong.

Being able to see your flaws and apologize is the most basic part of any person claiming to be strong. Being kind is strong. Being helpful to others is strong.

The FL has none of these characteristics.
she is a very flawed character, who is vain and clueless. If she was real, even the 2ML who is a villain would run away from her.
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Replying to Precious Apr 7, 2024
Similar? Yes she is cold but she has her own sympathy that does not give creepy psychotic behavior 😟His sympathy…
Take any Kdrama where the ML is cold, anyone in last few years.

that drama invariably has the ML chasing the FL, doing things for her, getting jealous over her male friends or ex-lovers etc etc

You think we will see the cold FL in this drama going through all that?

in fact it's the opposite in this one.
it's the ML chasing, doing things, getting jealous over her interactions with the 2ML.
The victim is simping, it's so pathetic watching how terrible the growth of characters is.

The ML went from pathetic wimp -> ultra pathetic wimp. He is still not standing up to the people who were the cause of all his suffering and it's not the villains.
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