The lack of empathy towards hyunwoo character from majority audience is so sickening. They keep excusing fl behavior,…
If not for her disease, FL would come across as the villain.
She even has her ex-boyfriend tagging along with her as her business partner that ML was never comfortable and could not even voice because the FL stopped treating him like a husband.
This is not right, Everything was good between them, After the miscarriage everything fell apart, The only thing…
I would have rooted for FL if the writers make both the ML and FL reflect what went wrong and both worked to make amends.
Alas, it looks like there is only ML that will be crawling and making amends.
Out of the two of them, the bigger victim was always the ML. If not for the disease of FL, she would have no leg to stand on what she and her family did to ML.
Just reverse the genders and you would be rooting for the women who has been neglected and abused by her in-laws, not the man who claims he loves her but never shows it when she is suffering,
At this point rooting for FL to die and ML to escape the whole toxic family including the FL and find some other woman.
There does not seem to any reflection from FL and with the memory loss and track of Kdramas where 'the FL is never wrong & the only one crawling is ML' formulae, it seems like FL will never reflect what she and her family did to ML.
The writers will use FL disease to ensure the ML crawls on every joint to make it up to a woman who does not deserve him.
well technically the employer isnt giving the work they agreed she was hired for. she never applied for marketing…
It does not matter.
Any employee acting up after getting their first job will be fired. Any employee acting up after entering a new company, even with lot of experience would be fired.
It is red flag if you are happy about your wife illness and praying for her death . People can have flaw but out…
I doubt anyone here is denying FL having her own set of issues and challenges.
Point was about ML dealing his own set of issues and challenges.
You are talking as if FL was the only one who lost the child, the ML did as well. The drama makes it a point to show it devastated both of them in different ways.
The only negative thing ML did was to be happy about FL death. That's a morbid thought and the drama shows why his thoughts went there.
Now start thinking about what the ML is going through every day of his life in FL's house and working with FL in office. Unless we are watching a different drama, it is pretty apparent that he is leading a pathetic life with very chance of escape.
Her whole interaction with the male business partner leaves a lot to be desired. You can simply see how disrespectful she was to her husband to the point the ML stopped believing she indeed still thinks of him as her husband.
You only talked about the FL plusses but fail to mention the hard work ML puts in for the company and contributes to it's success numerous times.
Again, not saying what ML thoughts on FL weren't shitty. Point was, he had good reasons to think like that. Does not make it right but neither does what his wife and her family are putting him through.
Typical Kdrama writing.They must surround FL with multiple men, makes the drama spicier.It's revolting watching…
FL comes across as stupid because of Kdrama writers wanting FL to be pawed at multiple men. There seem to viewers who like the FL be sexualized by multiple men and it sells in Kdramas.
Unfortunately this kind of stupid writing causes chaos in FL's character.
FL is shown as introverted and smart. So, she should never be comfortable with the other guy but because the writers want to sell the drama, so they write these kind of scenes and the FL comes across as bit of trashy.
It is red flag if you are happy about your wife illness and praying for her death . People can have flaw but out…
I suppose he should just wish her best of health so that she and her family treat him like shit for rest of his life without chance of escape.
the FL can continue to treat him like crap in front of everyone. She can also discuss her sex life with her new buddy who she spends more quality time than her husband Oh oh..her family practically is killing him in front of her and what does she do?
I guess because he is Kdrama ML he must love the FL unconditionally since that is the only option for Kdrama ML, no matter how shitty the FL is..
Oh yeah, we are supposed to believe that the FL loves ML a lot since she claims so, even after we see her apathy and insults repeatedly. Because that's what love is and that's how we show it.
If the genders were reversed and ML was treating FL like that, we would be demanding ML crawl on his bum to make it up to the FL.
This drama is good because it does not completely sugarcoat what's happening to ML and FL.
Hhi: where is he?Eunsung: Mr Baek? He went upstairs. Hhi: I see. Eunsung: Wasn't he in the room?Hhi: no(hesitantly)Eunsung:…
That's a typical Kdrama FL trait.
They will let a lot of men touch and feel them. This is very intentionally written into Kdramas. You would rarely see this where women are touchy feely with ML but a lot of times with FL the writers intentionally show FL doing this stuff. It looks this trope sells the drama more.
This trope is worse in Cdramas. A lot of Cdramas have married FL getting full body on body rubbing by the 2ML.
It's realistic.he is in an abusive relationship with the FL and her whole family, with zero means of escape. The…
Agreed that it is hard to root for a ML who is pleased at the prospect of death of his wife.
That's the whole point of this drama putting him in between a family monsters & that includes the FL as well.
There is a Chinese drama 'Eternal Love', It has a role reversal where the FL was abused by her in laws but the ML does his best to protect her. Eventually it gets too much and the FL kills herself and goes back to being a goddess, abandoning her husband and child. the ML in that drama goes to extraordinary lengths to protect the FL but fails. Eventually the drama makes his sit on knees for days as atonement for a something he did his best to prevent.
Now, this drama the genders are flipped, Unlike in 'Eternal Love', the FL does not take a single step or say a single word to protect her husband.
I am juxtaposing these dramas because lot of people support FL in 'Eternal Love' for abandoning a husband who showed her love and protected her, while in this drama the ML gets the bricks, while being in a situation with no escape.
I'm in the midst of a mental crisis here. There's this intense urge to slap Hyun Woo so hard, yet at the same…
It's realistic.
he is in an abusive relationship with the FL and her whole family, with zero means of escape. The only clean escape from the prison around him is the death of FL.
Imagine being in such horrendous situation and having nice thoughts about the abusers, it would not be real.
It's morbid thought that ML has. There have been many Kdramas with FL in similar situation with her husband and in laws and we all know whom we bat for in those dramas.
maybe she needed to cross the ocean daily on bamboo boat to go on work.. you know they are living in 10000 bc…
It is definitely not a big problem, it's a disaster
There is only one way civilization survives, by making babies. That is the single most important thing for continuity. Everything else is secondary.
No matter how egalitarian a society becomes, without enough kids, they will get rotten and eventually perish. The most dangerous thing about this phenomenon is that most people in time don't realize how rotten the society has become.
It hits them eventually where these countries would realize they don't have enough people to do basic jobs. Just look at Europe and see the shit they are importing to replace their aging and childless population.
maybe she needed to cross the ocean daily on bamboo boat to go on work.. you know they are living in 10000 bc…
You forgot complete lack of communication as well. How will they ever talk with each other? Or get food and groceries delivered to their door step?
The only change that would happen to these 2 after marriage would be them getting a piece of certificate. Apart from that nothing would change in their lives, not a single thing.
That whole discussion is a microcosm of why Korean birth rate is plummeting.
Oh yeah and this episode has the drunken women being taken care of their respective simps as well.
Just have a doubt, do Korean men like drunken women whose breath stink like used toilet? Is this one of those secret country wide fetish Korean men have that we rest of the world are not aware of?
She even has her ex-boyfriend tagging along with her as her business partner that ML was never comfortable and could not even voice because the FL stopped treating him like a husband.
Alas, it looks like there is only ML that will be crawling and making amends.
Out of the two of them, the bigger victim was always the ML.
If not for the disease of FL, she would have no leg to stand on what she and her family did to ML.
Just reverse the genders and you would be rooting for the women who has been neglected and abused by her in-laws, not the man who claims he loves her but never shows it when she is suffering,
There does not seem to any reflection from FL and with the memory loss and track of Kdramas where 'the FL is never wrong & the only one crawling is ML' formulae, it seems like FL will never reflect what she and her family did to ML.
The writers will use FL disease to ensure the ML crawls on every joint to make it up to a woman who does not deserve him.
Any employee acting up after getting their first job will be fired.
Any employee acting up after entering a new company, even with lot of experience would be fired.
but boy the FL's behavior in workplace is pure fantasy.
In real life she would be fired in less than a day.
Point was about ML dealing his own set of issues and challenges.
You are talking as if FL was the only one who lost the child, the ML did as well. The drama makes it a point to show it devastated both of them in different ways.
The only negative thing ML did was to be happy about FL death. That's a morbid thought and the drama shows why his thoughts went there.
Now start thinking about what the ML is going through every day of his life in FL's house and working with FL in office.
Unless we are watching a different drama, it is pretty apparent that he is leading a pathetic life with very chance of escape.
Her whole interaction with the male business partner leaves a lot to be desired. You can simply see how disrespectful she was to her husband to the point the ML stopped believing she indeed still thinks of him as her husband.
You only talked about the FL plusses but fail to mention the hard work ML puts in for the company and contributes to it's success numerous times.
Again, not saying what ML thoughts on FL weren't shitty.
Point was, he had good reasons to think like that. Does not make it right but neither does what his wife and her family are putting him through.
There seem to viewers who like the FL be sexualized by multiple men and it sells in Kdramas.
Unfortunately this kind of stupid writing causes chaos in FL's character.
FL is shown as introverted and smart. So, she should never be comfortable with the other guy but because the writers want to sell the drama, so they write these kind of scenes and the FL comes across as bit of trashy.
They must surround FL with multiple men, makes the drama spicier.
It's revolting watching a married woman, who as per own claims loves her husband so much give another guy that kind of leeway.
the FL can continue to treat him like crap in front of everyone.
She can also discuss her sex life with her new buddy who she spends more quality time than her husband
Oh oh..her family practically is killing him in front of her and what does she do?
I guess because he is Kdrama ML he must love the FL unconditionally since that is the only option for Kdrama ML, no matter how shitty the FL is..
Oh yeah, we are supposed to believe that the FL loves ML a lot since she claims so, even after we see her apathy and insults repeatedly. Because that's what love is and that's how we show it.
If the genders were reversed and ML was treating FL like that, we would be demanding ML crawl on his bum to make it up to the FL.
This drama is good because it does not completely sugarcoat what's happening to ML and FL.
There is nothing like redemption for FL's. They are never wrong in the first place, no matter what.
I will bet anything it will be the ML doing all the begging and gestures.
They will let a lot of men touch and feel them.
This is very intentionally written into Kdramas. You would rarely see this where women are touchy feely with ML but a lot of times with FL the writers intentionally show FL doing this stuff. It looks this trope sells the drama more.
This trope is worse in Cdramas. A lot of Cdramas have married FL getting full body on body rubbing by the 2ML.
That's the whole point of this drama putting him in between a family monsters & that includes the FL as well.
There is a Chinese drama 'Eternal Love', It has a role reversal where the FL was abused by her in laws but the ML does his best to protect her. Eventually it gets too much and the FL kills herself and goes back to being a goddess, abandoning her husband and child.
the ML in that drama goes to extraordinary lengths to protect the FL but fails. Eventually the drama makes his sit on knees for days as atonement for a something he did his best to prevent.
Now, this drama the genders are flipped, Unlike in 'Eternal Love', the FL does not take a single step or say a single word to protect her husband.
I am juxtaposing these dramas because lot of people support FL in 'Eternal Love' for abandoning a husband who showed her love and protected her, while in this drama the ML gets the bricks, while being in a situation with no escape.
he is in an abusive relationship with the FL and her whole family, with zero means of escape. The only clean escape from the prison around him is the death of FL.
Imagine being in such horrendous situation and having nice thoughts about the abusers, it would not be real.
It's morbid thought that ML has. There have been many Kdramas with FL in similar situation with her husband and in laws and we all know whom we bat for in those dramas.
ML's need to be very very pure for the FL.
When I look at the 'male leads' in kdramas, there is remotely nothing that resembles a man in them.
Congrats Kdramas, you invented a new gender.
Another set of simps who are ready to cut their balls for the FL.
Damn, what happened to the men in Kdramas?
There is only one way civilization survives, by making babies. That is the single most important thing for continuity.
Everything else is secondary.
No matter how egalitarian a society becomes, without enough kids, they will get rotten and eventually perish.
The most dangerous thing about this phenomenon is that most people in time don't realize how rotten the society has become.
It hits them eventually where these countries would realize they don't have enough people to do basic jobs. Just look at Europe and see the shit they are importing to replace their aging and childless population.
How will they ever talk with each other?
Or get food and groceries delivered to their door step?
The only change that would happen to these 2 after marriage would be them getting a piece of certificate.
Apart from that nothing would change in their lives, not a single thing.
That whole discussion is a microcosm of why Korean birth rate is plummeting.
Oh yeah and this episode has the drunken women being taken care of their respective simps as well.
Just have a doubt, do Korean men like drunken women whose breath stink like used toilet?
Is this one of those secret country wide fetish Korean men have that we rest of the world are not aware of?