but how did she wake up if the Potionmaster got killed without telling anyone about their scheme? She wasn't given an antidote. (But then again, there's no saying that his turtle pill really worked the way he thought it does, since the experiment was disturbed... So maybe it's okay.) I'd rather have it to end before changing the location to that technicolor pond, with Yanzhi having a quiet shut down as they fought (and not being burried alive, please).
Someone knows where I can watch it with subtitles?I just find it in Japanese but I can't understand it ^^"
2 eps here: http://fastdrama.co/unnatural (just saw the links, can't tell how good the sub is yet, still in shock to see a jdrama getting subbed as it airs)
I liked. It was refreshing, sucked me in and made me feel feels. Utterly charming people spiraling downward into self-destruction, making unwise decisions and complicating things that don't need to be complicated. Some quality angstmine we've got here. It's a challenging watch and oftentime I just wanted to go inside, grab someone's arms and shake some sense into him/her. But I take it as a testiment of how real they felt. It's one of those rare instances of a drama with multiple main characters done right. While arrival of a female lead sets things in motion as if she was a pivotal domino piece, and admittedly she's getting a heroine handicap, all four main characters have a fair amount of screentime and are eqally nuanced. They aren't determined simply by being first or second leads. No clingy 2nd female leads here. They all have their own separate issues and are left to solve them regardless of their relationships. Things don't magically got fixed because there's someone to share them with. And once they're fixed, that moment isn't used instrumentally as a stepping stone for romance. For example - other drama could use that scene when Hana went to the festival to make her be seen if not by the 1st lead, then at least the 2nd - she looked too pretty to just leave it be. Not this one.
Reading comments, I feared a drop of quality in latter parts. There's none. I can imagine it's not everyone's cup of tea and maybe choosing a happy moment to call it a day would be advisable for some, but I wouldn't draw any clearcut line. It takes a dramatic turn as soon as ep 7(?), and then not long after plunges into a long, angsty separation, but it's not like any of this is either pulled from a hat midway or unnecassary. There were signs from the beginning. Those people are a mess. It's a process to win them back for the society.
Bonus points: careful, tender storytelling. Breath-like instrumentals. Smart transitions. Beautiful, organic flow. Preproduction is the only right way of doing things, be it 2006 or not. I can see myself rewatching this one once I grab a hold on a better copy.
Everyone is so fixed on that Madame X. Maybe they just assumed that it goes without saying that it's always the butler and didn't bother confirming? Who else could it be?
Can anyone tell me .... in which episode he finds out the truth about her?
in a cliffhanger before the penultimate week, so 24/25 if my calculation is right (90% sure, but maybe it was a week before?). Anyway, don't hold your breath.
yeah the hair cutting evil spirit is done. but what cyclist?
When Sun Mi was looking for the clues in that area where people leave padlocks, there was this guy repeatedly showing in the background and looking at her suspiciously (other than a photographer slash childhood sweetheart). He had a bike, but didn't use it. Mostly just stand there and stared. I thought he was kinda similar to the ghost at the florist, but they didn't followed it. I was wondering whether the writers are ripping off Natsuyuki Rendezvous setup, but that plotline just died midway, so I guess not. Which reminds me that they never told what exactly happened with the student in the library from the beginning of the episode with the mermaid.
for those few who enjoyed Whisper, Empire of Gold is the most similar drama of the same writer. I was recommended it before, but only reached this one now.
mood: 'If I have cobwebs in my mouth because I become too poor, then I'll eat the spiders to survive.'
/did they just paraphrase TS freaking Eliot in actual fitting way (with buildings rising from wastelands in April)? HOW IS THIS HAVING A 7.3? /(and then followed with Die Fledermaus. I'm so going to love this show.) /also: Dong Ha has a tiny little role.
/ok, the beginning is a bit rushed, it goes from 0 to 100 in no time and logic bends under the flow of events. Maybe they want to power through the 90s. Characters rock though, and the actors own them. I'm still on board.
wasn't this supposed to be only 16 eps? i think 20 eps are too much...
Apparently, lower number was a mistake. I think it was always paced for 20 eps. Look how long it took to expose Joseon backstory fully. I'm still 2 eps behind and I don't mind the lenght as much as the aimlessness. The show tries to flesh out Sins of Fathers plotline, but there's no way that knowledge will seriously endanger Hae Ra and Soo Ho's relationship, and Sharon is a lesser threat than ever. And yet it'll roll for 8 more episodes. If someone is invested in main couple, it's probably still watchable for the sake of the calmness and warmth of their relationship. But then again, all the offbeat parts I'm enjoying here a a bit of extra and their existence wouldn't be possible with a shorter run, so I'm in no position to complain. Re-imagining the show is fun, too.
Does it look like there may be a romantic element to this?
rebuilding the trust perhaps...? But kdramas aren't that fixed on keeping relationships for the sake of it anymore. So I'd say no, not for now at least. And probably not between Go Hyun Jung and Lee Jin Wook's characters. I hope they aim at a begrudging cooperation (not that I'd mind if there was something more, if done right). (I must be a hopeless case, because I'm having a hard time here not romanticising Shin Sung Rok's character despite everything we've been shown so far. /No, I take it back, I'll be fine.)
Too bad..i thought there was something between her and Yoon Yi's brother..
Was there...? I haven't reached that far to see any scenes with the two of them having any meaningful interaction. I was mildly interested what this show was trying to say with her character - was her image a fashion statement or an expression of identity? Were they trying to portray her as asexual or a one with some kind of past issues (does it equal for the showrunners)? But then again on one occassion they used her character as a puppet to throw a line that didn't really go with any of the above, so her portrayal didn't come across as very consistent. I was wondering whether it heads anywhere.
I'm in the middle. Could someone tell me if that short-haired friend who runs a cafe plotline was developed in the second half? Is there a plotline at all, or just a few more short scenes with her?
Well, that was refreshing to reveal schizophrenia right off the bat and it didn't make it any less reliable to follow. Twists in the final part got me from behind.
I feel I need to process it because not everything completely adds up. What really happened and what was the timeline? Most importantly - did the brother stage the suicide or influence it, or did she do it on her own (or at very least, was depressed enough not to resist)? What's the meaning of the discrepancy between US plane ticket and soon-to-be-invalid passport? My take is that she tried to put a front of going away and die quietly, but things went otherwise. OR the brother orchestrated it to look this way. There's this scene at the very end. As Cha Seung Won's character figures out that folded paper he held in his pocket was used as a makeshift envelope for the poison, policemen are talking inside the car about who'll inherit woman's wealth and her brother smiles in the backseat - for number of reasons. 1. He'll be rich, 2. he wasn't proven anything and is getting released, 3. and obviously, he's not upset with his sister's death. Then the scene cuts back to the hotel room and shows two figures struggling, the view obscured by a milky glass pan. My assumption is the other figure is brother, but I'm not sure if it's possible timing wise - does it happen before or after the boy doesn't get his tip? In the timespan between the boy visiting a room and manager reaching it? So she didn't drink the water, yet the manager found her lying unconcious just like he wanted. We got two conflicting versions even at the very end: the woman taking the drug herself / the woman struggling with someone just before her death (her brother). Were they arguing and that pushed her to kill herself, or did he force the poison on her? How far did Prosecutor Choi figure out? He realised the manager was telling the truth and imagined the woman taking the cyanide powder herself. The manager can be freed of murder charges now that the substance in her stomach doesn't match, but will it be closed off as a suicide?
/Either way, alternatives aren't that wide apart. He is the one who profits and he had some part in making her feel suicidal.
I actually managed to watch it on kissasian with my adblock turned on. Dunno why.
I wasn't able to use kissasian for months. Now I can't even reach episode subpage, no matter what I click, it sends me into loop of shady ad sites. But maybe it's a matter of a right combo of adblocks? Idk.
Utterly charming people spiraling downward into self-destruction, making unwise decisions and complicating things that don't need to be complicated. Some quality angstmine we've got here. It's a challenging watch and oftentime I just wanted to go inside, grab someone's arms and shake some sense into him/her. But I take it as a testiment of how real they felt.
It's one of those rare instances of a drama with multiple main characters done right. While arrival of a female lead sets things in motion as if she was a pivotal domino piece, and admittedly she's getting a heroine handicap, all four main characters have a fair amount of screentime and are eqally nuanced. They aren't determined simply by being first or second leads. No clingy 2nd female leads here.
They all have their own separate issues and are left to solve them regardless of their relationships. Things don't magically got fixed because there's someone to share them with. And once they're fixed, that moment isn't used instrumentally as a stepping stone for romance. For example - other drama could use that scene when Hana went to the festival to make her be seen if not by the 1st lead, then at least the 2nd - she looked too pretty to just leave it be. Not this one.
Reading comments, I feared a drop of quality in latter parts. There's none. I can imagine it's not everyone's cup of tea and maybe choosing a happy moment to call it a day would be advisable for some, but I wouldn't draw any clearcut line. It takes a dramatic turn as soon as ep 7(?), and then not long after plunges into a long, angsty separation, but it's not like any of this is either pulled from a hat midway or unnecassary. There were signs from the beginning. Those people are a mess. It's a process to win them back for the society.
Bonus points: careful, tender storytelling. Breath-like instrumentals. Smart transitions. Beautiful, organic flow. Preproduction is the only right way of doing things, be it 2006 or not.
I can see myself rewatching this one once I grab a hold on a better copy.
Which reminds me that they never told what exactly happened with the student in the library from the beginning of the episode with the mermaid.
/did they just paraphrase TS freaking Eliot in actual fitting way (with buildings rising from wastelands in April)? HOW IS THIS HAVING A 7.3? /(and then followed with Die Fledermaus. I'm so going to love this show.)
/also: Dong Ha has a tiny little role.
/ok, the beginning is a bit rushed, it goes from 0 to 100 in no time and logic bends under the flow of events. Maybe they want to power through the 90s. Characters rock though, and the actors own them. I'm still on board.
I'm still 2 eps behind and I don't mind the lenght as much as the aimlessness. The show tries to flesh out Sins of Fathers plotline, but there's no way that knowledge will seriously endanger Hae Ra and Soo Ho's relationship, and Sharon is a lesser threat than ever. And yet it'll roll for 8 more episodes. If someone is invested in main couple, it's probably still watchable for the sake of the calmness and warmth of their relationship.
But then again, all the offbeat parts I'm enjoying here a a bit of extra and their existence wouldn't be possible with a shorter run, so I'm in no position to complain. Re-imagining the show is fun, too.
(I must be a hopeless case, because I'm having a hard time here not romanticising Shin Sung Rok's character despite everything we've been shown so far. /No, I take it back, I'll be fine.)
There's this scene at the very end. As Cha Seung Won's character figures out that folded paper he held in his pocket was used as a makeshift envelope for the poison, policemen are talking inside the car about who'll inherit woman's wealth and her brother smiles in the backseat - for number of reasons. 1. He'll be rich, 2. he wasn't proven anything and is getting released, 3. and obviously, he's not upset with his sister's death. Then the scene cuts back to the hotel room and shows two figures struggling, the view obscured by a milky glass pan. My assumption is the other figure is brother, but I'm not sure if it's possible timing wise - does it happen before or after the boy doesn't get his tip? In the timespan between the boy visiting a room and manager reaching it? So she didn't drink the water, yet the manager found her lying unconcious just like he wanted.
We got two conflicting versions even at the very end: the woman taking the drug herself / the woman struggling with someone just before her death (her brother). Were they arguing and that pushed her to kill herself, or did he force the poison on her?
How far did Prosecutor Choi figure out? He realised the manager was telling the truth and imagined the woman taking the cyanide powder herself. The manager can be freed of murder charges now that the substance in her stomach doesn't match, but will it be closed off as a suicide?
/Either way, alternatives aren't that wide apart. He is the one who profits and he had some part in making her feel suicidal.