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Well it's kinda crazy how ya be talking about that guy?! If you can't handle flawed characters then it's just not the drama for you and that's fine

Some of you would do good in just dropping it instead of painting it as some toxic romance or overthinking it when it's about "blue spring ride", imperfect teens/youth finding their way, making mistakes and growing. Non of the characters are perfect, they make the wrong desicions and that's fine. They are still young and learning.

Non of the 3 are perfect, Futaba went out with a guy she doesn't love, Kou made a mistake and Touma took advantage of the FL's vulnerability for his own gain

Non of the 3 are perfect, Futaba went out with a guy she doesn't love, Kou made a mistake and Touma took advantage of the FL's vulnerability for his own gain

Because he thinks of Narumi as a friend who he related to whilst Futaba is the girl he's been in love since middle school. Narumi triggered his trauma and he fell into misery.

Narumi was there for him when no one was and helped him adjust to his school life. He tried to be the emotional support he didn't have which dragged him back down into misery and he felt that a relationship would hurt the Futaba, that he didn't deserve to be happy and felt guilty for moving forward with his life (from his mother's death). Idk why ya call him toxic for trying to help a friend.

Also what I find odd is how ya blame Kou for not being able to talk in the middle of his misery but not Futaba who jumped to a conclusion without even asking him anything. If anything it's on both not just him. (And why did they not include the manga scene where he said "let's talk")

It's kinda odd ya fault Kou for not being able to communicate in the middle of his misery but not Futabs for not doing either (honestly in the manga he actually tried to but she pushed him away)

You are never obligated to reponse when you don't feel like it. I am in a group chat but on certain days I don't feel like engaging. It's not that serious, it doesn't mean a person doesn't value their friends. It's simply just texting. I'd throw myself in front of a train for my friends, I love talking to them in person but I hate texting and ppl are at times busy with other aspects in their life.

"they were close enough to ask her in a date, then they are close enough for him to let her know he’s okay but busy"

He told her he can't make it to their date with this everything is fine. Had he not told her or stood her up I'd understand your reaction but in this case he was open about not being able to make it. It seems to me you are over thinking it when Futaba has already forgotten about it.

"other than that he treats her with indifference"

Except he saved her several times, helped her find herself, flirted with her, tried to get her attention and even kissed her.- where she threw things at him and chased after her. That doesn't seem indifferent towards me but sure "just when a guy appears he shows smth".

I do agree that it's good to see him grow and learn from the mistakes he makes, I just don't agree with the way you potray him as, it's seems as if you haven't understood his character yet you pass judgement on him. Maybe even overthink certain things like "missed texts". He was never toxic, just imperfect and flawed. That's great since he is young after all. I wish the drama had done a better portay so ya would've understood him better.

I am writing based on the drama and Kou's POV but you don't seem to have understood it. You think him hugging a friend is wrong, him not replying to a friend is wrong and point at him for not communicating yet not ar futaba for not trying either. She only confronted Narumi not Kou. If anything both are wrong in these regards.

As for Touma you seem to close your eyes. He rushed her after he saw Kou trying to fix everything, he didn't take a no for an answer and convinced her that she'll forget Kou by his side. He do anything to make her his and new how to get her agree because he saw Kou making his moves. That's what we see in the drama. Touma was aware she was in a vulnerable state as we see in the drama yet he confessed and quckly demanding an answer without letting her heal on her own. He didn't treat her with respect the moment he saw her vulnerable he made it about getting his way and his chance.

"He should be staying away from complicated relationships and focusing on therapy until he is healed"

But that's exactly why he rejected bc Kou knew in his current state it wasn't good for eithet of them. He needed to deal with his trauma before dating anyone. It's only thanks to Futaba he realised time wasn't standing still and ready to move forward.

"That it's okay to let boys treat you like shit because they had a shitty life and a hard time? "
Y'all acting like he set her house on fire.or abused her. He rejected her bc she asked him to and knew it was better for both at that point.

"That is your opinion and your interpretation"

The same goes right back at you. Again, you are ignoring that Futaba is indeed in a vulnerable state. It's not taking away get agency, it's stating the obvious and Touma was aware of it. He took advantage of it to "help her forget about kou". If he ideed as you claim cared about her happiness he wouldn't have rushed her after he saw Kou making his move, would he?

To all intents and purposes it IS not a red flag. Man did NOT stand her up, he called and said he won't make it. That's it. It shows he is ALIVE.

They were NOT dating either so by no means did he HAVE to reply to her. Kou had things to deal with but it is indeed a weird drama only scene that served no purpose.

And we see in school that he wasn't ignoring her in any way. It wasn't ghosting.

As for Narumi once again he hugged a sad friend. This shouldn't even cause the misunderstanding in the first place (the manga was weird for that) and Futaba knew they were friends yet Futaba ran off with Touma and drew a conclusion without ever asking him directly.

Meanhwile Kou hugged Narumi bc he saw himself in her, became stuck in a miserable state and it triggered his PTSD. The guy gave up on everything so he could not explain himself (in the manga he tried to) and stopped moving forward what Futaba represents. Futaba then confronted Narumi and afterwards distanced himself from him. He was STUCK in misery, he fainted after rejecting the girl he loved bc that's how much he suffered on it's own. Kou was trying the best and knew a relationship would harm Futaba at that point.

I do agree that yes he is making mistakes which is good since they help us grow but I don't agree with the way you paint him as. Calling him a jerk when he isn't and closing your eyes on what's going on with him.

You write essays yet you failed at understanding him in every way but can’t fault you for that given the terrible job the drama is doing.

Idk when reading some comments here i am really shocked by how little ppl understand him

Jesus christ the way some of you are talking about Kou (calling him a narcisst or manipulative) as if he is a villain when he is a 16 year old flawed teen that got emotionally manipulated by a toxic friend through his trauma and made a humane, desperate mistake. He saw himself reflected in her, tried to be the emotional support he didn't have when his mother died and it backfired. She triggered his PTSD (trauma) and dragged him back down where he didn't believe he deserved to be happy, loved and felt guilty towards his mother. Man just gave up on moving forward and feared a relationship with him would hurt the girl he's been in love with since he was a kid. It was more about Kou himself than it was ever about Narumi. We even see Futaba pulling him and Kou talking about Futaba being his hero, she made him see clear again in the nursery scene and Kou immediately trying to make things right again but Touma wasn't having that bc the "sad boy" knew he about to lose would Kou get to her 1st.

That'd said I must admit that I think the drama did a worse job at what's going on with Kou and took a lot of his explanations out whilst it seems to glorify Touma and his action on the other hand? Very weird.

Respecting other opinions yes, but you see misusing a word that goes against Kou's character.

A narcisst ≠ doesn't feel self-pity, self-doubts and self-hatred or fall into depression bc he doesn't think he's worthy of being happy or allowed to be loved, happy or to move forward with his life. It's a contradiction in it's own if you look up the word.

The believe they are special, unqiue, can't empathize with others (which we see Kou do with both Futa/Narumi, has a grandiose sense of self (kou doesn't), always think they are right (which goes against Kou since we see him admit he is wrong, learn from his mistakes and apologises), manipulates, blames, gaslights (non of them which kou does), has an exzessive need for praise and admiration, displays a sense of entitlement and use criticism, bullying to achieve their goals.

That's what a narcisst is not a flawed 16 year old full of doubts, who doesn't think highly of himself, that makes mistakes, realises them and even apologises for them

Neither did Kou think "I don't want her but neither can someone else have her"- we see that bc him maning a move and seeing clear before these 2 dated

Kou rejected Futaba bc she asked him to and bc at that point it was right for both. A relationship whilst ze tried to help Narumi would've done more harm than good and same in the current miserable state he was in.

I'll be honrst it's good thstbhe rejected her and in the manga before that scene we see him trying to talk to Futaba but our girl pushed him away bc Narumi convinced her it's better for Kou to be with her and that she's not dragging him down into the past.

I do see Touma and Futaba's relationship as a mistake that will lead to both of their misery. 1 forcing herself to feel the same for Toums, denying her own feelings whilst the other keeps pushin and pressuring to make this nonese relationship work.

He was starting to distance himself because at that time he heard about Narumi losing her father. Kou cancelled the date bc she asked him to support him during the funeral in the manga.

"Which to all intents and purposes is a red flag"

No. Since he didn't stand her up or ghost her it's not a redflag.

Kou isn't playing any mind game with her either, he was always set on being with futaba and flirted with but seeing Narumi miserable triggered a trauma reaction which made him give up on living his life and fall into his own misery- whilst he tried to be the emotional support he didn't have whilst he lost his mother.

Aa for Touma I disagree albeit it seems the drama took out all the bad elements that cling onto him in the manga, he feels pushy, manipulative and only acts on everything bc of Kou.

The glass scene - Touma kisses Futaba bc he is jealous
The hug scene btw Kou and Futaba - Touma suddenly couldn't wait any longer because he knew Kou was trying to work it out with Futaba despite promising her and doesn’t accept her no.

He forced the girl into a relationship knowig well she could be happy with the guy she loves and their mutual feelings. Touma never cared about her well-being or her happiness but his own chance. For me he isn't a boyfriend in the books.

Bro can't believe they called him narcisstic? A guy full of doubt and self-pity

Kou loved her that's why he couldn't distance hinself from her completely and we do see a rift being btw them after Futaba asked Kou to reject her. They are distanced from each other.

Hugging another girl- I'll be frank, he was single, it's a decent thing. If you see someone crying wouldn't you hug them? I would regardless if my bf is next to me or not. The girl was there for him when no one was, helped him fit into the new school he went to and he understood her pain since he had no one. Kou tried to be the emotional support he never had but it backfired. It dragged Kou down as he saw himself reflected in her. She triggered a trauma reaction which made him give up and stop moving forward with his life. He fell into depression.

Until the scene in the nursery where after he collapsed Futaba pulled him out of his state. That's where he started to see clear again and realised time wasn't standing still.

He made up his mind to apologise and fix everything with Futaba.

“I can’t be with you, but no one can have you.” 🥴

I'm sorry but where did you get that from? That's a terrible take. He even hugged her out of desperation before Futaba and Touma (the cause of why Touma demanded an answer) went out together.

You are throwing a farmful word around that you fail to understand. Kou is the opposite of a narcisst. He is full of regret, doubts, guilt and pain. That's why he rejected Futaba and bc he knew a relationship wouldn't have been right. (I was raised by a narcistic ffather, trust me Kou's the opposize(

He isn't using anyone to forget his pain. Narumi used him.

Mas isso também é demonstrado no drama pela forma como Touma age, ele confessou logo enquanto ela estava a sofrer, continua a pressioná-la e, como já foi dito, o beijo no episódio seguinte acontece porque ele entrou em pânico quando percebeu que Kou estava a tentar resolver tudo. Ele só se preocupa com a sua oportunidade, aproveita-se da pobre rapariga e não se importa.

Acho que não se deve culpar o Kou por ter aprendido com os seus erros, por ter sido manipulado por um amigo tóxico e por ter crescido como adolescente. Ele sabe quando está errado, está arrependido, pede desculpa e é um bom rapaz. O problema é que ele não conseguiu seguir em frente depois da morte da mãe, mas graças a Futaba e Kominato ele finalmente conseguiu.