I was roaring with laughter at the end! A literal Laugh-Out-Loud moment. Poor Fun. What a good frist episode. The mother-in-laws seem toxic in different ways.
Thank you for your comments, but I want to correct you on the dilation scene. Dilation is very different and personal…
Yes, and no. Yes, it's a bit different for each of us. No, it shouldn't hurt like that. I little streach, or pinch, sure. The kind of pain shown is a warning that you are tearing something. Size up gradually and dilate often enough and it won't hurt, regardless of the surgical technique used, unless it was very botched.
And we have another mediocre episode. Emi singing More Than Words from US was amusing. Min and Praew are the only thing brining me back to the show at all. Overall the writing is flat and the directing is worse.
Honestly i really likes the show until they decided to skip their entire begining relationship and jump 3 months…
I agree. With the rushed beginning I don't find myself as invested in the relationship, so why do I care if it survives the drama? I'm not saying we need six episodes of them datinging, but two would have been nice. I'll say it for the record right now. the series should have been 10 episodes. The first should have been two and I'll bet the finale is rushed as well.
I love when shows give us more time to dive into character relationships, especially when we know they're endgame.…
They are only giving us 8 episodes. Adding a few more would allow for the events of episode 1 to be spread out over two or three episodes. I don't expect 16 episodes like The Loyal Pin; that takes a lot of production capital, but 10 would be a more reasonable space to tell most stories. Too many GLs already rush finales, typically with unearned forgiveness of the antagonists.
Storytelling is always a balance between editing out the unimportant fluff that always finds its way in and providing enough room for world-building and character development. Shoehorning the entire relationship-building process into a single episode left me less invested in the relationship as a whole.
Yes, we know they will end up together because that is the genre, but that is a writing shortcut that often leads to lazy writing. I’m keeping an open mind because I really want Faye’s company to succeed. My many objections to Blank aside, she is a very capable actress. Hopefully, she will be just as skilled at the business side of GLs.
I keep hoping it will get better, and I'm disappointed once again. Episode 3 was just more of the vapid, one-dimensional characters. The cameo by Bonnie was nice. The writer(s) and director are trying to jam way too much into each episode, without spending time developing the characters or exploring what passes for a plot.
The only characters worth watching were once again Min a Praew, though Min’s journey of curiosity was more like a stroll to the next room—too short to be satisfying, but that’s on brand for this show.
Just don‘t watch it? There are plenty Thai gls without scenes like that. Just stick to them.
The crime show analogy is worth exploring.
In a typical crime show, a bad thing happens: murder, rape, etc. Everyone agrees the crime was wrong, and the cops usually catch the criminal, and we know they will be punished. Occasionally, they get away, but the viewer is rooting for them to be caught and punished.
Now compare that to this tv show. Flint raped Sun. Most of the viewers agree that this is wrong (we see that in this comment thread). It was a crime. The difference is in what will happen to Flint. It’s a GL, so it’s reasonable to assume Flint and Sun stay together—meaning Flint is rewarded for her violent behavior. She “gets the girl.”
There are ways that this topic could be handled responsibly. If this were a longer story, I might believe there was room for a redemption arc, where Flint takes responsibility, fixes herself, and proves to Sun that she has changed. Or if it was a different genre, I could see how it could end with Flint alone and regretting her behavior with Sun being happy with someone else. But given that it’s being promoted as a GL, neither of these is likely.
The psychology of how implicit bias is formed is fascinating and disturbing.
Intimate Partner Violence is a real problem, and stories like this shape people's perceptions of it. The message that it's OK is internalized a tiny bit more with each exposure, and the fact that it's fiction really doesn't matter.
This is how normalization works. They have people defending rape in specific cases (fiction in this case) by watching the show (and in these comments) Art shapes culture just as much as culture shapes art.
Watch it if you want. Enjoy it if you want. Just don’t expect the rest of us to believe it's anything other than what it is: Softcore rape porn.
I think we need to start questioning the authors of these novels, or at least questions why such stories are taken…
I haven't read it either, but I've read about it. All you really need to know is that it's by Chao Pla Noy. She also wrote GAP, and Blank. She tends to throw every possible horrible thing at the leads and her books are full of her internalized homophobia and misogyny.
Fiction influences opinions and social norms. That can be positive or negative. This is especially a concern with young viewers. If Flint commits SA and is rewarded by "getting the girl," the viewer may internalize the notion that this is not harmful in a relationship and accept it from or do it do a partner in real life.
Art imitates life, and life imitates art. You can't observe it without being affected by it.
The people defending the scene are the fruit of social norms that say IPV (intimate partner violence) is ok.
Just don‘t watch it? There are plenty Thai gls without scenes like that. Just stick to them.
Unless they start adding trigger wanrings, how exactly are we supposed to do that? We need responsible writing. If they handle SA, there should be consequences, not an ending with the rapist and the victim as a couple.
Storytelling is always a balance between editing out the unimportant fluff that always finds its way in and providing enough room for world-building and character development. Shoehorning the entire relationship-building process into a single episode left me less invested in the relationship as a whole.
Yes, we know they will end up together because that is the genre, but that is a writing shortcut that often leads to lazy writing. I’m keeping an open mind because I really want Faye’s company to succeed. My many objections to Blank aside, she is a very capable actress. Hopefully, she will be just as skilled at the business side of GLs.
The only characters worth watching were once again Min a Praew, though Min’s journey of curiosity was more like a stroll to the next room—too short to be satisfying, but that’s on brand for this show.
In a typical crime show, a bad thing happens: murder, rape, etc. Everyone agrees the crime was wrong, and the cops usually catch the criminal, and we know they will be punished. Occasionally, they get away, but the viewer is rooting for them to be caught and punished.
Now compare that to this tv show. Flint raped Sun. Most of the viewers agree that this is wrong (we see that in this comment thread). It was a crime. The difference is in what will happen to Flint. It’s a GL, so it’s reasonable to assume Flint and Sun stay together—meaning Flint is rewarded for her violent behavior. She “gets the girl.”
There are ways that this topic could be handled responsibly. If this were a longer story, I might believe there was room for a redemption arc, where Flint takes responsibility, fixes herself, and proves to Sun that she has changed. Or if it was a different genre, I could see how it could end with Flint alone and regretting her behavior with Sun being happy with someone else. But given that it’s being promoted as a GL, neither of these is likely.
The psychology of how implicit bias is formed is fascinating and disturbing.
Intimate Partner Violence is a real problem, and stories like this shape people's perceptions of it. The message that it's OK is internalized a tiny bit more with each exposure, and the fact that it's fiction really doesn't matter.
This is how normalization works. They have people defending rape in specific cases (fiction in this case) by watching the show (and in these comments) Art shapes culture just as much as culture shapes art.
Watch it if you want. Enjoy it if you want. Just don’t expect the rest of us to believe it's anything other than what it is: Softcore rape porn.
Fiction influences opinions and social norms. That can be positive or negative. This is especially a concern with young viewers. If Flint commits SA and is rewarded by "getting the girl," the viewer may internalize the notion that this is not harmful in a relationship and accept it from or do it do a partner in real life.
Art imitates life, and life imitates art. You can't observe it without being affected by it.
The people defending the scene are the fruit of social norms that say IPV (intimate partner violence) is ok.