rapaciousobserver

The list of problems with GL authors is long, exacerbated by their pursuit of money and fame. Chao Planoy is the worst of the lot, but far from the only problematic author.

FWIW, I agree entirely. Clairebell was excellent beyond good bi representation. It was good all the way around. She was dating a guy and then dating Clair. One relationship ended, and the other started.

The only hope i have is for some sort of learning in the final episode, but I'm not holding my breath. I think it's just going to be more hot garbage.

I'm not keen on cheating either, and I'm not sure where I fall on this one. She never made promises to Leemhai and Nine kinda steamrolled right over her objections infront of the 1st day aniversary photo backdrop, which was kinda wierd and gross. Either way, two dates at once is the epitome of bad choices.

You can hardly throw a rock without hitting a GL with the "but I didn't know I could like women" trope. ugh.... And two dates at once? This is lazy writing and bad representation for bisexual folks.

I hope not. That would ruin the show for me.

You're welcome.

I am transgender, so it is personal for me. I live in the united states and have seen firsthand how media representation can sway public opion first in a positive way, and now in a negative way.

I'm loving this show. On the one hand, Jane is so naive about some things, which leads to a lot of comedy. On the other hand, the way she put that teacher in her place about her sister was perfect, and I am once again very pleased with their handling of the transgender sister's character. (Hey CH3, take some notes here. This is how you handle a transgender character.)

I am beginning to suspect they are going to leave me wishing they had done a few more episodes to flesh out the plot, and that the last episode will feel rushed, so here's to hoping I'm wrong.

With this ending, there better be a second season. We need a resolution.

The stepfather is having an affair with the duaghter, whom Apo is supposed to mary. The step father attacks Apo, who then transitions for revenge (thought the author has argued that revenge isn't the reason for Apo's transition). Either way it's bad representation of transgender people making it seem like a choice, or a disguise to fool people. As it stands it is very transphobic. Perhaps they will listen and either cancel it or write a better story.

Thanks for the recomendations. I found Saneha Kap Cheevit on youtube, and am watching it.

Well said @Ryn!

Your theories are the best I've seen so far. I'm trans and my first thought on seeing this was "Oh, heck no." I still can't see a way to fix it, but if Apo was getting money for a transition they already planned by being the husband-for-hire. But since the writer has reportedly been blocking anyone who criticizes the pilot, I have my doubts. I don't bear ill will toward Namtam for taking the role, but if they don't fix it and she continues with the role, I will have issues with her choice.

I would love to see good trans representation in a gl lead couple. I'm not holding my breath.

I'm trans. I don't have an instant knee-jerk reaction to cis men or women playing trans characters, though I would love to see my Thai sisters get their due time in the limelight. I'm far more concerned about the representation of transgender people in these shows, and you've hit the nail on the head. Most of the trans characters are comedic roles that play on bad stereotypes.

I second your thoughts on Golf Kittipat x Godji. I would like to see more of them. I'm also hopeful about Jane's sister in Like A Pallete. I think the character's name is Jazmine.

The teaser makes it pretty obvious that it is for revenge, so at best we have a production/ direction problem. Either way, they won't fix it unless we pushback against dangerous rhetoric.

I'm judging the trailer only. I have no knowledge of the writer beyond a few comments I've seen. It does not matter if the writters comments about the reason for Apo's transition are true. The trailer gave the impression that Apo transitioned for revenge. If that is inaccurate, then it is a production/direction problem. either way the issues with the plot as shown in the trailer exist.

I will chime in as a transgender woman, albeit one with a Western cultural lens. I transitioned 30 years ago, so I've been on the receiving end of full-on transphobia and more subtle transphobic bias. I want to start by saying that many folks are missing something, and that's OK as long as you are willing to listen to people who are affected by transphobia.

If cis gender people are calling it transphobic, perhaps it is. If transgender people are calling it transphobic, then it is transphobic.

The reason for the transition is the biggest offense in the trailer. It can be framed as survival or revenge or a host of other things. What it wasn't is rooted in a deep sense of who they are. We transition because we are women deep down inside, where it matters. This was not the case for Apo. I would compare "survival transition" to what happens in Iran. It's illegal to be gay in Iran; if a man is caught having sex with another man, they get a choice: transition or be executed. That person still is a man in their head because that's what they have always been, but a transgender woman is a woman even without any surgery. (sex is between a person's legs; gender is between their ears).

This whole notion of transition for revenge is even worse when we consider the other implications. It implies the Apo isn't really a woman and isn't really transgender. It also implies that Apo is dangerous and possibly mentally unstable. These are the excuses that are currently being used to legislate away transgender people's rights and humanity in many countries. It is the sort of misinformation that quietly reinforces biases against transgender people. It's all well and good to say it's fiction and we shouldn't take it too seriously, but fiction has the power to move cultures and shape laws if enough people believe the little lies.

The dilation scene is bad but not damaging. First, the prop dilator is dramatically larger than a real one in support of the second problem. Dilating doesn't hurt, even after skipping dilating for longer than is recommended; it can be a little pinchy, but it should never be painful. If it's painful, something is wrong, and they should consult their doctor.

I would love to see a gl with good transgender representation in the lead couple. This isn't a good or even an OK representation. The sister in Like a Pallete is a good representation so far (episode 3), but she is a minor supporting character. Good transgender representation is going to need to have a transgender woman in at least a consulting role from writing to production in order to avoid all the potential problems.

I hope this explanation helps.

@RealNevermore I will chime in as a transgender woman, albeit one with a Western cultural lens. I transitioned 30 years ago, so I've been on the receiving end of full-on transphobia and more subtle transphobic bias. I want to start by saying that yes, you are missing something, and that's OK as long as you are willing to listen to people who are affected by transphobia.

If cis gender people are calling it transphobic, perhaps it is. If transgender people are calling it transphobic, then it is transphobic.

The reason for the transition is the biggest offense in the trailer. It can be framed as survival or revenge or a host of other things. What it wasn't is rooted in a deep sense of who they are. We transition because we are women deep down inside, where it matters. This was not the case for Apo. I would compare "survival transition" to what happens in Iran. It's illegal to be gay in Iran; if a man is caught having sex with another man, they get a choice: transition or be executed. That person still is a man in their head because that's what they have always been, but a transgender woman is a woman even without any surgery. (sex is between a person's legs; gender is between their ears).

This whole notion of transition for revenge is even worse when we consider the other implications. It implies the Apo isn't really a woman and isn't really transgender. It also implies that Apo is dangerous and possibly mentally unstable. These are the excuses that are currently being used to legislate away transgender people's rights and humanity in many countries. It is the sort of misinformation that quietly reinforces biases against transgender people. It's all well and good to say it's fiction and we shouldn't take it too seriously, but fiction has the power to move cultures and shape laws if enough people believe the little lies.

The dilation scene is bad but not damaging. First, the prop dilator is dramatically larger than a real one in support of the second problem. Dilating doesn't hurt, even after skipping dilating for longer than is recommended; it can be a little pinchy, but it should never be painful. If it's painful, something is wrong, and they should consult their doctor.

I would love to see a gl with good transgender representation in the lead couple. This isn't a good or even an OK representation. The sister in Like a Pallete is a good representation so far (episode 3), but she is a minor supporting character. Good transgender representation is going to need to have a transgender woman in at least a consulting role from writing to production in order to avoid all the potential problems.

I hope this explanation helps.

I repsect the reasons given for each. There are enough tragic ends in reality. I don't want to watch them in fiction. I'll add that I will not be watching Her if it comes out after the backlash.

Just finished ep 3

Shaping up to be a pretty good story. The premise of a woman can only be staring at another woman because of hate or jealousy is pretty lame. Jane’s reasoning could have been developed better by simply saying “why else would you stare at me like that.” Jane comes across as very naive while Dai seems a bit more worldly, providing plenty of room for misunderstanding and growth in Jane’s character.

I had hoped to see Jane's sister Jasmine again. So far the transgender representation is quite good. I like how the family came to her defense in Episode 2. Hopefully this trend continues.