Random take, but can we appreciate SE's Make up artist's attention to detail?
Rather than hiding his dark circles, they made it a point to emphasize them in most of his scenes. Considering the fact that Sa Eon's been working non stop for the last 3 years (and plotting his revenge for much longer), the physical toll on his appearance was a nice touchπ
The only time they are not that visible is when he's happy with Heeju in fact π€
I didn't really give it much thought while watching the drama but after reading the Manwha, it makes so much sense since the artist makes it a point to draw dark circles in all his scenes too.
Mao saved Ando when they were young and Ando's been hopeless for her since then π€
Thanks for the heads up on Igarashi! Btw how did you watch ep 6? I can only access ep 5.
Did you watch ep 5? I'm beginning to lose my patience with the MLπ« . He keeps complaining that he doesn't know whats going on with the FL but doesn't put in the effort either. He's an easy rarget honestly. The FL deserves so much more. As for the SFL? Didn't think she could stoop any lower but voila! She found a new low bu not giving up, knowing that they are married now ππ. πππ
May be it's because we are watching both Igarashi and Ikinari Kon together, but I can't help liking Ando even more now...is it just me?π
True! I want to know how Mao saved Ando too. He's soooo tall, it's hard to imagine a scenario. Do you have a theory? π
The MC romance is also so wholesome considering how they started sowe need smooth sailing now π
You are so right about how inconsequential the Ex is. He's even more delusional than Azuma π π π
Hope you like "cursed in love". It has a nice blend between traditional and modern day Japan so it's interesting- and their confectionary products are soooooo pretty π
Mao saved Ando when they were young and Ando's been hopeless for her since then π€
Yessss! The Ex really had it comjng. For a moment there i really hoped he leant his lesson after Mao helped him, but some fools are just irredeemable π€¦ββοΈ
IKR?! I hope they at least share Ando's POV next week. Really curious to see how he saw those interactions. Seeing how hopelessly in love he is and how supportive the other supervisor is, it must be a really good backstory right? πππ
Ah well let's just hope the translations will be out soon. It's become a habit of mine now to check Igarashi...'s page. Really want to see ep 5 soon π
Did you hear about the misintepretation contravery? :)It's not difficult to test it on your own if you don't believe…
Glad to be back :)
Haha yesss!!! I love how you called Mao's apartment "her world". It really does feel like that, specially when Ando is there. Idk why but you don't really notice it with the Ex's scenes in the Apt. but with Ando, it just stands out π€π€π€
I'm guessing Azuma's going to get owned next week with the introduction of the new female character but I really hope that she's not going to be another rival. Mao's been through enough and they don't really have enough episodes to add more rivalry into the mix. What do you think?πππ
Btw I finally remembered the J-melo drama i mentioned awhile back (the makjang-esque jdrama with the ML from "your eyes tell"?)
It's called "cursed in love". 8 episodes and available on DailyM. It's a bit like what some people expected WTPR to be like i guess since in this drama, the FL starts off with the intention to solve a mystery and is out for revenge against the ML through deception. It can be a little dramatic though at times since it's based on a Manga. Not bad though if you are craving for some dramaπ
Did you hear about the misintepretation contravery? :)It's not difficult to test it on your own if you don't believe…
Did you watch the latest episode? Absolutely loved their date!!! Sooo cute π€π€π€
Haha as a fellow short person - envyyyy! (Lol i know i know i don't even know how tall you are but still π€£). Their height difference is really noticeable in Mao's apartment i guess? Or may be they used apple crates in some scenes (like they did in LR with KHY)
Azumi is a joke at this point...even the Ex is tired of her. But it does look like they might have some family drama with one of the elderly Andos right? Whoever who registered him for the blind date behind his back? And that preview??? π
Basically Netflix created a huge international scandal over a mistranslation that attracted a lot of unnecessary mass 1 star ratings across several drama platforms.
Netflix did eventually correct it recently silently, but the damage is done as it's been nearly a month since this issue happened.
The funny thing is that many native Koreans did clarify the error barely 24 hours after the issue came up but eh people would rather hate on a drama than admit they made a mistake.
The reason why @mrschloe suggests removing these kind of ratings is because majority of the 1 star raters in MDL and Google Reviews for instance are not from actual viewers but bot accounts and certain trend chasers who misread a situation without watching the show.
I believe you owe an apology to WTPR and Jang Gyu Ri seeing as Netflix corrected the subtitles since NF made the mistake.π€
How does it feel like to know that you wanted to blindly boycott the drama and an innocent actress when infact the show and the correct translation was actually helping your cause indirectly?
I haven't watched this yet. However from what i have heard i figured out some stuff. Lets face it guys, 90% of…
TBF if you consider the timeline and SE's deeply rooted personality and trauma, it's not a surprise why he left.
Can't expect a normal person, let alone a severely traumatized person to suddenly become rational only after barely 2 weeks of changing his entire dynamic. Specially considering how he lives and breathes for Heeju.
Finding out he was even 0.0001% indirectly the reason for all her suffering (i.e. the exact suffering he wanted to save her from) would cause anybody like him to behave irrationally.π
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I do agree with you though that dramas need to move on from the "breakup over unnecessary reasons" thrope. Pretty much why I love King The Land since they broke this pattern every way possible.
I really hope at least the ratings will come back to raising again after now netflix the one mainly and only responsible…
Ngl I'm almost looking forward to the next wave of excuses π€‘
"But but...Argan sucked...but but ep 11 and 12 were meh....translation mess up wasn't the only reason the series got hate....but but 'misogyny'...but but stockholm syndrome....but but but but but...." like any of these excuses would justify the "1" ratings eh?
Hate is indeed louder and the blind hardly ever admit their mistakes.
Sadly this will not be the last time but I do hope viewers and "# warriors" will be more rational in future and will not blindly follow random users' allegations without doing their own researchπ€
On the bright side, Netflix at least silently admitted their mistake.
Not to mention they were married for 3 years and the guy doesn't even know the basic about her and we should believe…
Did you try checking the definition?
Stockholm syndrome means feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor..
Are you seriously suggesting that Heeju was Sa Eon's victim ever since she was a kid? Since she herself admitted that she liked him ever since he saved her from the dog attack as kids.
*She lost faith in him AFTER they got married (a.k.a AFTER she became his "hostage").*
She only dared to fantasize their normal life AFTER he started to show signs that he wasn't as callous as he pretended to be but still she only freely loved him AFTER he proved that he could change and dropped his faΓ§ade.
So pray tell me how is stockholm syndrom involved here? π€
Did you hear about the misintepretation contravery? :)It's not difficult to test it on your own if you don't believe…
Ep 4 is out now on Daily M - did you got a chance to watch it?π
I love how straight forward Ando is. At least qe know that we won't suffer too long from the miscommunication fronth π€
As for Azuma, as much as I hate her guys, gotta say at least she is smart enough to know that the Ex was a loser. She didn't even bother to sugar coat about her feelings (considering the fact that she doesn't seem to know that Mal was his GF).
Can't wait till the next episode- hopefully it looks we miiiight get lucky π
Haha you are so right! I have a few "giant" friends myself and I actually make them sit since if we have to talk- neck crams are so realπ π π
Not to mention they were married for 3 years and the guy doesn't even know the basic about her and we should believe…
It isn't stockholm syndrome since Heeju didn't fall for him after their marriage. If anything, their marriage was what made her begin to dislike him (ep 7 and 12 clearly point this out + there are subtle clues through out the drama as well).
Please learn more about the syndrome before throwing serious terms carelessly. Since this is a drama it doesn't matter but if you made such an accusation in real life without any basis, you'd probably be in trouble.
It's perfectly fine to dislike a drama but it's rather distasteful to twist the narrative.
About the "future" spoilers - technically Sol didn't outright tell Sunjae and KTS what would happen. Same with…
I meant that she didn't write "lottery" or the winning year on the paper with the numbers. Telling to try the numbers alone isn't really breaking the rules since it's vague.
They can speak openly about the future as long as Sol doesn't say anything specific. That's why she couldn't talk about Eclipse or directly tell Sunjae he'll be an idol someday. But her telling "you should have been at the audition" is vague enough since the future already changed at that point. Also Sol never said that she was from 2023 right? Suggesting they should meet up in 15 years to open the capsule isn't a spoiler since it didn't happen in the original timeline.
Sol does need an outlet to prove that she is from the future so it kind of make sense why they needed to add a loophole? Or else she just comes across as bipolar since she has absolutely no way of saving the future if she's completely silenced? Idk if it makes sense π
Not to mention they were married for 3 years and the guy doesn't even know the basic about her and we should believe…
Did you even watch episode 1 properly? The reason why he was so cocky on the call was because his mother in law confirmed that Heeju was with her. Any normal person wouldn't have any reason to doubt her word since it was such a simple question.
As a political figure, dealing with spam calls isn't an extraordinary thing for SE- specially seeing as he was working on an active hostage situation at the time. ***
"He didn't have any trauma"- seriously? C'mon he didn't have an identity from the day he was born and then was forced to live the life of another. Being stripped out of his own identity is trauma. Not having his own name is a trauma. Watching his birth father kill his own grandson without any remorse is a trauma. Forcing himself to be an emotionless bot is a trauma. Growing up in a household filled with evil people is trauma. Being forced to lie to Heeju (his saviour) for 20+ years is a trauma. Forcing himself to be cruel and indifferent to Heeju because he couldn't let go of his childhood wish to ruin the Baeks is a trauma.
Material benefits isn't everything. He may be rich but he wasn't really living.
(I will respond to your other points shortly since I'm busy atm but honestly reading most of your response, it sounds like you haven't even bothered to watch the series properlyπ π π )
How many times does the FL goes back in time and changes everything? π₯΄ I've lost the count. it really doesn't…
About the "future" spoilers - technically Sol didn't outright tell Sunjae and KTS what would happen. Same with the lotto numbers. She gave enough general clues for them unintentionally to figure it out on their own.
For instance with the lotto, it's mentioned that the brother has been playing the winning numbers for years much to his wife's frustration. Since Sol never mentioned the year the ticket numbers would work, it's fine (she literally just handed him a scrap of paper with random digits- if it said "lottery" or "lottery 202X" on the paper, then the numbers would have disappeared)
Rather than hiding his dark circles, they made it a point to emphasize them in most of his scenes. Considering the fact that Sa Eon's been working non stop for the last 3 years (and plotting his revenge for much longer), the physical toll on his appearance was a nice touchπ
The only time they are not that visible is when he's happy with Heeju in fact π€
I didn't really give it much thought while watching the drama but after reading the Manwha, it makes so much sense since the artist makes it a point to draw dark circles in all his scenes too.
Did you watch ep 5? I'm beginning to lose my patience with the MLπ« .
He keeps complaining that he doesn't know whats going on with the FL but doesn't put in the effort either. He's an easy rarget honestly.
The FL deserves so much more. As for the SFL? Didn't think she could stoop any lower but voila! She found a new low bu not giving up, knowing that they are married now ππ.
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May be it's because we are watching both Igarashi and Ikinari Kon together, but I can't help liking Ando even more now...is it just me?π
True! I want to know how Mao saved Ando too. He's soooo tall, it's hard to imagine a scenario. Do you have a theory? π
The MC romance is also so wholesome considering how they started sowe need smooth sailing now π
You are so right about how inconsequential the Ex is. He's even more delusional than Azuma π π π
Hope you like "cursed in love". It has a nice blend between traditional and modern day Japan so it's interesting- and their confectionary products are soooooo pretty π
IKR?! I hope they at least share Ando's POV next week. Really curious to see how he saw those interactions. Seeing how hopelessly in love he is and how supportive the other supervisor is, it must be a really good backstory right?
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Ah well let's just hope the translations will be out soon. It's become a habit of mine now to check Igarashi...'s page. Really want to see ep 5 soon π
Haha yesss!!! I love how you called Mao's apartment "her world". It really does feel like that, specially when Ando is there. Idk why but you don't really notice it with the Ex's scenes in the Apt. but with Ando, it just stands out
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I'm guessing Azuma's going to get owned next week with the introduction of the new female character but I really hope that she's not going to be another rival. Mao's been through enough and they don't really have enough episodes to add more rivalry into the mix.
What do you think?πππ
Btw I finally remembered the J-melo drama i mentioned awhile back (the makjang-esque jdrama with the ML from "your eyes tell"?)
It's called "cursed in love". 8 episodes and available on DailyM. It's a bit like what some people expected WTPR to be like i guess since in this drama, the FL starts off with the intention to solve a mystery and is out for revenge against the ML through deception. It can be a little dramatic though at times since it's based on a Manga. Not bad though if you are craving for some dramaπ
https://kisskh.at/58565-watashitachi-wa-douka-shiteiru
And did you see the silhouette of the guy in her flashback (from the last episode)?? He looked like Ando too right? Abiiit at least? π
Yesss- i watched ep 6! The way Mao slapped the Ex back to his senses (hopefully) was just amaaaaa-zing!πππ
Haha as a fellow short person - envyyyy! (Lol i know i know i don't even know how tall you are but still π€£). Their height difference is really noticeable in Mao's apartment i guess? Or may be they used apple crates in some scenes (like they did in LR with KHY)
Azumi is a joke at this point...even the Ex is tired of her. But it does look like they might have some family drama with one of the elderly Andos right? Whoever who registered him for the blind date behind his back? And that preview??? π
PS: so sorry for the laaaate reply!
(No comment on this drama since I haven't watched Dear Hyeri).
Netflix did eventually correct it recently silently, but the damage is done as it's been nearly a month since this issue happened.
The funny thing is that many native Koreans did clarify the error barely 24 hours after the issue came up but eh people would rather hate on a drama than admit they made a mistake.
The reason why @mrschloe suggests removing these kind of ratings is because majority of the 1 star raters in MDL and Google Reviews for instance are not from actual viewers but bot accounts and certain trend chasers who misread a situation without watching the show.
https://x.com/taedreamer7/status/1885952069904818289
(If you are curious for more details, you can check the discussions panel for more details)
How does it feel like to know that you wanted to blindly boycott the drama and an innocent actress when infact the show and the correct translation was actually helping your cause indirectly?
https://x.com/taedreamer7/status/1885952069904818289
Can't expect a normal person, let alone a severely traumatized person to suddenly become rational only after barely 2 weeks of changing his entire dynamic. Specially considering how he lives and breathes for Heeju.
Finding out he was even 0.0001% indirectly the reason for all her suffering (i.e. the exact suffering he wanted to save her from) would cause anybody like him to behave irrationally.π
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I do agree with you though that dramas need to move on from the "breakup over unnecessary reasons" thrope. Pretty much why I love King The Land since they broke this pattern every way possible.
"But but...Argan sucked...but but ep 11 and 12 were meh....translation mess up wasn't the only reason the series got hate....but but 'misogyny'...but but stockholm syndrome....but but but but but...."
like any of these excuses would justify the "1" ratings eh?
Sadly this will not be the last time but I do hope viewers and "# warriors" will be more rational in future and will not blindly follow random users' allegations without doing their own researchπ€
On the bright side, Netflix at least silently admitted their mistake.
https://x.com/taedreamer7/status/1885952069904818289
Stockholm syndrome means feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor..
Are you seriously suggesting that Heeju was Sa Eon's victim ever since she was a kid? Since she herself admitted that she liked him ever since he saved her from the dog attack as kids.
*She lost faith in him AFTER they got married (a.k.a AFTER she became his "hostage").*
She only dared to fantasize their normal life AFTER he started to show signs that he wasn't as callous as he pretended to be but still she only freely loved him AFTER he proved that he could change and dropped his faΓ§ade.
So pray tell me how is stockholm syndrom involved here? π€
I love how straight forward Ando is. At least qe know that we won't suffer too long from the miscommunication fronth π€
As for Azuma, as much as I hate her guys, gotta say at least she is smart enough to know that the Ex was a loser. She didn't even bother to sugar coat about her feelings (considering the fact that she doesn't seem to know that Mal was his GF).
Can't wait till the next episode- hopefully it looks we miiiight get lucky π
Haha you are so right! I have a few "giant" friends myself and I actually make them sit since if we have to talk- neck crams are so realπ π π
(ep 7 and 12 clearly point this out + there are subtle clues through out the drama as well).
Please learn more about the syndrome before throwing serious terms carelessly. Since this is a drama it doesn't matter but if you made such an accusation in real life without any basis, you'd probably be in trouble.
It's perfectly fine to dislike a drama but it's rather distasteful to twist the narrative.
They can speak openly about the future as long as Sol doesn't say anything specific. That's why she couldn't talk about Eclipse or directly tell Sunjae he'll be an idol someday. But her telling "you should have been at the audition" is vague enough since the future already changed at that point. Also Sol never said that she was from 2023 right? Suggesting they should meet up in 15 years to open the capsule isn't a spoiler since it didn't happen in the original timeline.
Sol does need an outlet to prove that she is from the future so it kind of make sense why they needed to add a loophole? Or else she just comes across as bipolar since she has absolutely no way of saving the future if she's completely silenced? Idk if it makes sense π
As a political figure, dealing with spam calls isn't an extraordinary thing for SE- specially seeing as he was working on an active hostage situation at the time.
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"He didn't have any trauma"- seriously? C'mon he didn't have an identity from the day he was born and then was forced to live the life of another.
Being stripped out of his own identity is trauma.
Not having his own name is a trauma.
Watching his birth father kill his own grandson without any remorse is a trauma.
Forcing himself to be an emotionless bot is a trauma.
Growing up in a household filled with evil people is trauma.
Being forced to lie to Heeju (his saviour) for 20+ years is a trauma.
Forcing himself to be cruel and indifferent to Heeju because he couldn't let go of his childhood wish to ruin the Baeks is a trauma.
Material benefits isn't everything. He may be rich but he wasn't really living.
(I will respond to your other points shortly since I'm busy atm but honestly reading most of your response, it sounds like you haven't even bothered to watch the series properlyπ π π )
For instance with the lotto, it's mentioned that the brother has been playing the winning numbers for years much to his wife's frustration. Since Sol never mentioned the year the ticket numbers would work, it's fine
(she literally just handed him a scrap of paper with random digits- if it said "lottery" or "lottery 202X" on the paper, then the numbers would have disappeared)