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Much appreciated, I need true equality and mutual love to invest in a romance and that's something we almost never get nowadays since it seems almost every romance has the ml obsessed the entire drama and the fl lukewarm at best so it sucks as someone who believes romance is two people as in love and devoted but it is what it is.

It's not about the percentage, when almost every drama is much more in love and doing all the work that's not romance to me, that's not love. I doubt most people would think the same and not care how unequal it is if it was the opposite and the FLs were doing almost everything in most dramas while the mls barely lifted a finger. And honestly just saying you don't care about percentages tells me that it's not balanced or equal at all.

"They love each other so much" what does that mean if it's not supported by actions and words for me to believe it, this is a written narrative not random real life, if the ML is madly in love about to drop from exhaustion but still picks up the FL, what is the FL's equivalent action that shows me her love etc? Again if the ML and the FL's roles were reversed in this drama would you have no problem with it and find them as in love as you do now? Would you put as much emphasis on his actions and how much he's doing for her if she was the one waiting and making trips and he was the one doing whatever she's doing which I don't even know because all anyone is talking about is the ML and how in love he is which leads me to believe that it's not equal and that's real love to me especially in fiction.

It's your prerogative if you prefer dynamics where the ML is way more devoted that's the way most people feel but I was asking for me personally because I don't, if it was reversed the FL was doing more I would dislike it just as much, like I said, real love and romance to me is genuine equal devotion not a down bad ML and a FL who gives 15%, just like it wouldn't be a down bad FL and a ML that gives 15%. Lol sorry that got long.

Yeah, LBL the lines was basically the only drama this year that had a balanced dynamic which is kind of crazy considering how many romance dramas have come out in the last six months, I honestly don't know why or when did a love story become a madly in love man doing everything and having no self respect and a woman who barely cares about him and prioritizes everything before him.

I love badass strong and independent FLs but it seems like that's not what this is( in general not this drama), bc you can both be in love and be a well written female character. And if your story is a romance and it's not just a small part of it, then I would expect equal focus on both characters and the strength of their feelings for eo but it looks like we're in the "wish fulfillment" pretend you're the FL era of romance where the MLs role begins and ends with being down bad to insane levels and the FL can barely muster a word of devotion and a single act of care towards the last few episodes. If the roles were reversed people would be soooo mad bc this isn't how love is supposed to be but alas.

Thank you for the long explanation. I don't mind him falling first but does she fall just as hard? As in throughout the episodes do we see her show up for him and care for him just as many times and with as much devotion as he does for her? As in if her actions were his and his actions were hers would people be saying he's sooo in love like in the comments now?

Essentially the difference between something like YAMG, Hidden love and LBFAD , Fated hearts where FL was 100% in vs something like TFF, Shine on me, Moonlit reunion where the ML was way more in love and did most of the work, if it's not actually 50/50 then I won't enjoy it tbh, that's just how my brain works, for me to believe it's love I need genuine complete equal investment from BOTH.

Thank you so much, so it's not for me then if 2/3rds or more of the story is him being more in love and doing all the chasing etc then it's not my kind of otp. It's frustrating because trying to find a drama lately where it's genuinely both people as in love is like looking for a unicorn, they practically don't exist anymore.

Thank you, yeah I've seen some comments about how she doesn't seem to care about him the present scenes etc I don't mind if she made decisions to protect him but reading some of those comments did make it seem like it was the typical cdrama romance where the fl is always much less invested and barely cares. I just don't consider those kinds of otps "love", I actually need to believe both characters adore eo from their actions and words in the same way which basically eliminates 90% of dramas, so I didn't enjoy a lot of the most popular ones like TFF, Kunning palace etc
Edit: Someone below answered me as well and this isn't is for me, it doesn't sound completely unequal but very very far from equal, if he spends most of the drama chasing her even after he thinks left him just bc and she's always restrained and barely shows her love then yeah... if the roles were reversed I don't think anyone would consider it equal but rather tell her to find someone else and that's my barometer for actual balanced otps, thanks for your opinion again.

He sounds really really in love is it the same for her? I'm thinking about watching now that it's over but I don't really do the madly in love ml with barely acts like she cares fl but rather prefer couples where they're both 100% as in love and as devoted and show it with their words and actions, and from the comments I've seen so far this seems like the former...

I'm thinking of watching this now that it's almost over so I was wondering what the otp's like? The usual cdrama romance with ml 10 times more in love and doing 99% of the work which most people seem to prefer or the very rare rlsp where they're both as invested and as in love (Hidden love, YAMG, Falling into you etc), your comment of he deserved having her propose first makes me think it's the former.

I'm thinking of watching this now that it's almost over and can I ask what the otp's like? The usual cdrama romance with ml 10 times more in love and doing 99% of the work which most people seem to prefer or the very rare rlsp where they're both as invested and as in love (Hidden love, YAMG, Falling into you etc).

Yeah it was pretty equal in the novel but I don't think it's equal in the drama from the posts I've seen. It looks like the classic cdrama couple where ml is much more in love.

Thank you for answering, I didn't feel like he was more in love in the novel, it felt even to me but I can tell from your answer and some of the comments here that it's very uneven in the drama. I prefer otps where they're both as in love like Hidden love or Lighter and princess rather than ones where the ml is madly in love by himself which is 99% of cdramas let's be real.

How does the romance here compare to the novel? I know they changed a lot but they did keep the dynamic of them being both really in love and as devoted or is it the usual cdrama relationship where the ml is 120% in love and the fl is at 30% on a good day?

I rather hope it's she fell first, they fell just as hard. Almost every cdrama couple is he fell harder regardless of who fell first. Based on the mvs and trailers this looks like it might one of the few cases where we get a true power ride or die couple who are truly in love with each other not just the ml.

That sounds promising, thank you because I'm honestly tired of all the unbalanced otps, almost every couple is the ml madly in love and his entire life is about fl but she barely puts in any effort. If I don't see both people putting in as much care then I don't buy the relationship.

I want to watch this but I don't like unbalanced otps so I wanted to ask, are they mutually in love as in the fl is making as much effort and is as in love as ml or is the ml doing a lot more like most cdramas?

I want to watch this but I don't like unbalanced otps so I wanted to ask, are they mutually in love as in the fl is making as much effort and is as in love as ml or is the ml doing a lot more like most cdramas?

Am I crazy or is Xu Yuan wearing Zhan Wang's chain in the poster...

Exactly, it's why these kind of dramas even if cathartic have started to feel incredibly depressing to me because we know all of this happens irl and very frequently too and yet unlike fiction, there's no saviors and no justice.
It's the social justice equivalent of the romance dramas we have nowadays where in fiction every man is a perfect greenflag who adores the fl from day 1 and does 95% of the work in the relationship and yet irl every single day you hear about 5 horrifying things happening to women in SK (it's not just them, it's the whole world but since we're discussing them rn). It's all utter fantasy which is fine but a certain point...

😅 You're not wrong, a few years ago (pre 2022) almost every relationship was balanced so I keep hoping this is just a passing phase and we'll get back to real romance instead of self insert fantasy but alas.

I came here to ask if the romance is balanced to see if I'll watch and... nope it's same old same old.