strawgal

I think its just they want to avoid the realities of life, and lack critical thinking.

Just about half way through, two eps a night.The acting is amazing, particulary Agno Go ,combined with a story that seems realistic, perhaps too realistic for some.
I almost think there should be a seperate feed for the crime drama lovers, it will be a two on thumbs on Netflix for me. Things I liked, Mask Girl, Somebody( they would lose their mind over that),6ixty9ine, Big Bet, Worst of Evil...

I can not say I do not find it amusing, in a slapstick way, the rubber hand was just laugh out loud funny. What have they all taken, I just can not take it seriously. It looks better in Mandarin, the dubbing is less noticeable. It reminds me of an old Carry On film, like Carry On Cleo, but honesty not as saucy.
I think that is perhaps how they avoided the censors.

I think this is one of the few dramas where the charecters actually behave like real life, very relatable. Very well acted and directed. Non of the women where at the high end of stupid, apart from one and perhaps the men got the worst charecter portrayals. C drama is nearly to long for me, I prefered the last half, but its a bit like a good book, not something to binge.

That's fine we can agree to disagree. All I can say is I have real experience of what constitutes as consent, capacity, and how it is applied, and safeguarding issues in young adults and adults, which in the UK is classed as eighteen.
You would be surprised how in real life how often age gaps bigger than ten years occur in partnerships, and they are not acting the same age. In some communities it is normal to be married at eighteen, which to used to be a common thing when people did not expect to live past fifty.

Its context. Is one form of abuse greater than the other, if the both actors were ten years older there are circumstances where there still be potential for a abuse. You can not be age blind with abuse, the only thing you can flag is the vulnerability, where age can be a factor, but its just as possible that someone older can be abused, or pressured.
Concentrating all your attention on one issue can make you less aware of the whole picture, because like it or not its often the environment that surrounds the abuse that allows it. How and why was this behaviour seen as OK, and what can we do to prevent it? The way the casts members of Kinnporche were treated behind the scenes should have been a red flag for all of the industry, so I hope that safe guards are in place.
As consumers the only control from outside is not watching, because money is the only reason why most of these things are done.
I used to watch a lot of horse sport, I now know so much about the abuse that goes on during training that I no longer watch it. Its that simple.
You can not live in a la la land where you think every thing is safe because they are the 'right' age.

You missed the point. If you look at 'acting' there are many times children, and I mean children, not young people who can give informed consent are placed in situations in dramas that could be harmful to them, the content does not have to be sexual. You only have to look at some of the stories of now adult actors , such as Brooke Shields, who from a child was sex object in film and in real life, and Corey Feldman, what goes on behind the scenes is more important that what we see on film,
The largest age gap I have found between a ML and FL is thirty years, and the amount of staged abuse female actors under go is routine. There a many main stream dramas that use the abuse of particularly women, as window dressing, one of the recent episodes of The Boys was particularly graphic. I would love to know the conversation and the reasoning that went behind this because it certainly did not add anything to the plot.
Would I want my child to do this? My eldest daughter spent two days on a magazine shoot and I quickly realised that her and the pony she was riding were just seen as props, so I do not think so. The people who organised it seemed normal but they were so engrossed in getting usable photos that they had little thought on how it was affecting their subjects. This why intimacy co ordinator's and independent chaperones are needed
Looking at film and tv crews as a whole the whole system is open to abuse and poor control, ie the Alec Baldwin preventable accident, So safeguarding systems need to be in place. There are various Tai drama's that tackle the abuse of actors, like they say write what you see.


I have seen teenagers who put themselves at physical risk to play sports, and I do not mean just a broken arm, and that is will parental support. Anyone who is in a position of being in a situation that they can be pressured to be 'picked', is open to abuse, and that includes adults. The obsession with Korean and Chinese actors being thin, pale , skin washing and the use of plastic surgery to make them supposedly aesthetically pleasing, is just as abusive, and risks their mental and physical health. This includes mainstream UK/US actors who have to lose or gain extreeme amounts of weight for parts, when so much can be done by CGI now.

Then there is the big industry of fan service and the money made from it, because the industry needs that revenue. I can not imagine how much stress this must put actors. Being in a film or drama, you know you have to promote it, do rounds of interviews, be asked inane questions and try and smile, because its part of your contract, When you are asked to do this for years on end with in an acting couple , that restricts your relationships with other people and get abuse from 'fans' if you stray from their fantasy that is abuse on a huge scale. The only people who can stop this are the consumers, don't watch t anything that is intrusive in actors personal life or makes them perform in uncomfortable situations. Be happy when they get do do something different.

Working with young people, most of my time was spent helping them to
make the best choices and prevent harm, but I have to accept that in
the end there are certain things that if they have capacity even their
parents can not prevent them from doing. I also have to accept
that when some return to their home country the laws and cultural
norms are different.

So my question is should anything be on tv and film that shows harm mental or physical be shown if the actor or crew is at potential risk, even if they are only on set?
Older actors often able to disassociate their emotions from the acting, imagine being not able to do that and going through feeling sad, angry, frightened for several hours, because someone wants a better look
If we agree that's OK, what should we as consumers be asking , do we need this to make a good story, and what safeguards are in place, for any age?

My own view is that there is so much we do not see on film and drama sets, and in the world industry which is questionable that it tarnishes my whole enjoyment, what ever the age of the actors.

Its reminds me of the book Lord of the Flies crossed with Truman Show, put anyone in an extreme situation and the behave extremely, and how you can rationlise away your restervations.
Reality TV taken to its most basic level, only so far in real life the money only comes from advertisings and your apperance fee.
When you think about the Romans they had staged brutality as a way to control and and entertain the masses who had pretty aweful lives, in just about every country they colonised they built an amphitheatre and imported gladiators.
The back story of why the 8 Show was, conceived and why , we are not told, and how the rooms were 'fixed', that could be another series.

It seems fairly commen in western drama for the FL to be alot younger than the ML, Some cast older acting pairs, twenty somethings playing high schools, or cast the people who have the look for the part. In Never Have I Ever the FL is ten years younger in RL then the ML.
Lots of female actors are cast against older ML, so is it because they are two ML, or is it not seen as acting, Or is it a concern that their standards of control to prevent abusive situations is not as good, because lets face it the film/TV industry in western media doesn't have good track record.
Or should we just not consume romantic drama of any sort to be sure, which looking at viewing figures Bridgerton, is not what people want.
Normal US/EU is usually far more graphic in mainstream drama.if its Ml/FL

The character has been dead for two years, he come back in a different body, his life has changed he has no other relationships, but the only people who can provide stability are the people in his old life. If you have ever moved house job, had a life change it affects your stress levels and ability to cope.
To get people to make better choices, you help them make choices not tell them what to do and not dismiss the choices they make. I have adult children I would never give them advice in that way or else they never come to you with their problems. His 'mother' doesn't ask him why he did what he did, and shuts down his explanation. People only love him when he behaves how they want, other wise he is at fault. When they find out he hid being the old Joe even his mentor was mad at him even though his explanation was completely logical.

I think Ming is also a victim, he has money but is used by people particularly Tong, because he has money, and has to conform for his father's will. At the start he probably thought Joe was after money, even his brother is surprised by Joe's attitude. Joes doesn't value himself, but Ming values him, even if its not shown in the right way and didn't understand why. More importantly he tries to change, he doesn't get right all the time but he makes the effort.
Tong manipulated him, he wants him to the compliant good brother, Ming left to get out of his sisters way. The only way he has been able to form relationships or to be seen having value is to do with money and power, he thinks its the only way to get what he wants.
In Joe he has found someone who wants him for him, who has no side, no expectations, so that is why he is so desperate to keep him how ever way he can.

What I find really annoying about the writing is as a charecter , no one wants Joe to make his own choice, and when he does make a choice, they question it. They treat him like a chid even if they think they are being kind and helpful. Perhaps at the end he gets to make his own choice.

I have been watching The Boys on Prime, where there is man having a relationship with an octopus, womens boobs out all over, and the last episode I watched the man could divide himself, but he just happened to be full frontal nude, which was a bit yuk, and added nothing to the plot. Shock value?
Then there is last weeks episode of House of The Dragon, where one scene is in a brothel, which annoys me because the show runners use that sort of scene as a filler,
Most of the skin you see in this type of drama is nothing more than you would see in sports, and a lot more, thinking of Olympic men's diving.
In this they are trying something different, I am just happy its got a plot like The Stand In, and seems to be set in a realistic situation.

https://raindance.org/festival/ Its based in the UK , https://raindance.org/festival/indie-film-forum-2024/ This is where new ideas/directors get a showcase.
It may not be a big festival but its a chance to get ideas, learn and find like minds. Everyone has to start somewhere.
This UK likes the quircky and the unusual, some perhaps the panel where looking for someone with an origanal idea.
Not everything has to be an obvious smash hit, or well liked to have value. The director Roger Corman died recently, the King of the B movie, who gave other film makers ideas and supported them to make their own as a producer, including Francis Ford Coppola.

This shouldn't work but I think the underplaying of the ML sells it. I never get the trope of the cheerful female lead, but this one is the least irritating, so far.

Dropped it after two eps. Not sure what genre its supposed to be, its not funny and has a very simplistic attitude to medicine, so not very informative.
The best bit seeing Kwak Sun-young playing an introvert. Yes the ML is very handsome in a bland way but as written and acted he is no House, just a very immature man IMO.

Very impressed. Seems to have a proper plot, good production values, direction, and the surrounding charectors and actors are good. Ping I always thought was a good actor and its developing his range, Mean perhaps not so much, perhaps later on.
Frank, has actually gets to act properly.
If you do not like skin do not watch, but I have seen more in the local park/beach.

My WTF was the reaction to a cardiac arrest at the start, Big concert there would be a full paramedic team with a defib, and they usually work on them for an hour at least.

Oh dear, someone needs a nap.

Its a good point of view, but look at something like Bridgerton, a women of thirty seven Nicola Coughlan playing a woman in her twenties, accomplished actor, funny and looking at the coverage she is getting she its about her, and the products she promotes will sell to women.
I always think that British actors are very much like Korean actors, its about the work, and they do not earn as much as US actors. The main difference I think is how the fans treat them, UK actors mainly are treated with respect, and not as a comodity, and when they are interviewed female actors will often redirect the interview. Kate Beckinsale and Helen Mirren are masters of making the often male interviewer look a absolute a-hole.
I think as a whole Korea has trouble with women not conforming to the cultral stereotype, not just in drama.
In MSM media male actors have always got more attentsion, and have been paid more, so someone like Nicole Kidman have had to produce their own projects. Margo Robbie produced Barbie, which made nearly $150bn.
I think eventually a female K pop singer will have enough control to break out of the system mold, its having the drive to do it.

My sister is ten years younger than her husband, my friends husband is twenty years older than her, my husband is five years older than me and I met him him when I was nineteen, all long lasting marriages of many years.
I can not imagine being with a man the same age as me, they take enough 'training' as it is.