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[Note: Minor spoilers in this comment!]

There were so many things I absolutely loved about this season, but also so many issues around plot, characterization, and throwing out of logic everywhere. I still absolutely enjoyed every single minute of it, but the contrast between how excellently and precise all of the fight choreography was in contrast with the incredibly lazy police procedural writing was a really stark contrast.

On the good side, the fights were SO, SO beautifully shot & filmed, with so many unique camera angles, settings, and lighting across numerous fight choreographies. This literally looked like the entire production team was absolutely showing off what they could do visually; even though the fights were absolutely beautiful to see in Season 1, they completely elevated the settings and the stakes in this season. I think it's also important that the fights themselves are deliberately filmed in ways that show character motivations and contrasts, so a huge kudos to both the cinematographers for way the camera captured everything while making sure that movements weren't repetitive/didn't feel like you were watching the same moves repeatedly, and also for the actors as they all did their stunts directly (I remember WDH + LSY joking before that some actors had a hard time memorizing all of the more complex movements).

Rain was also in a way a perfect choice to pick as a villain; partly because he already has a strong dance background + most of his top roles are action-heavy, and he's also well-known for doing his stunts. The only thing was I felt like the casting of the rest of villains was so hilarious that I just could not take them seriously every time I saw them on screen. Lee Siom and Chansung are entirely associated with comedy to me that I sometimes found it kind of odd whenever I saw them on screen (even though their performances were great as well).

But there were also major plot problems, with the issue being that even basic details and forensic skills were completely ignored. Without giving too many spoilers, there were so many precautions during the "gathering intelligence about the villains" scenes or protecting important witnesses/people involved with the villains that weren't taken. Even though Woojin and Geonwoo are not strategizers, I really felt like the team kind of needed a super analytical, complex, scheming character to balance off that dynamic (besides Min Kangyong) because otherwise it really felt like the strategizing of the villains was off-balance compared to their team instead.

Some of the details, like the whole "dark web" explainers (and the crappy graphic design of the websites), and then the "these villains are going global so we're just gonna have a man speaking English on webcam" etc. just didn't work for me. I think the focus on an underground boxing ring was awesome, but I wish rather than doing the whole "transnational illegal boxing" etc. I think I just found the details, ideas, motivations of Myeong Gil in Season 1 much more interesting imo. There was so much they could have also expanded on (e.g. Tae Gyeom's experience in the military, but maybe this might be for Season 3?) that again would have been I think a better plotline to follow, but I guess they decided they wanted to go hard on the "scary overseas worldwide illegal boxing" thing instead.

I still had an AMAZING time watching, absolutely incredible performances to all of the actors, directors and producers for creating this work. But at the same time I did have some issues with some of the plot/I think these could be improved (that won't stop me though from begging for a Season 3!)

For those who are curious, Jin Seyeon and Park Kiwoong actually worked together in Bridal Mask (2012) nearly 14 years ago with Joo Won (who played the male lead). They had amazing chemistry there even though Park Kiwoong's character transitioned from a kind-hearted second lead love interest to a very complex, despicable villain.

I'm so happy that they're paired together again and will finally get a sweet love story together. Really, really looking forward to the next couple of episodes coming soon!

I will fully admit, I'm going into this one with really reserved expectations but am hoping that it's really good. Both Hyeyoon and Lomon are fantastic actors and can easily work in a variety of different genres and scripts, and given how it's Lomon's first romantic comedy I'm curious about what his performance will be like. The trailers are already great when it comes to chemistry and the concept is fantastic — as a Hyeyoon fan, I feel like she definitely chose the script specifically because of Eunho as a character (and I feel like she's a great casting for a gumiho who is contradictorily obsessed with worldly things).

That being said, I am really nervous about the scriptwriters. Kim Jung Kwon directed Love to Hate You (2023) which is fantastic at the enemies-to-lovers trope, but to put it bluntly the screenwriters' previous work The Best Chicken (2024) was honestly an undercooked chicken with some major writing issues around characterization and pacing. That being said, the humour was quite funny, so I think we will get a lot of hilarious scenes and I'm excited for that one.

Also, as others mentioned — the posters are especially bad. I have no idea who decided to approve of them because the colours are clashing and the poses are not great. There's so much more they could have done with them, but I'll reserve judgement until the final drama is released.

Adding a new link here because that one no longer works. The new version stars He Jianqi and Wei Fanshu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLMByYJfL2g

There is another version called The Rules of Rough Love (no MDL page currently).

Honestly, I loved this. I'm not really picky about production values for verticals given the limited budget, but the sets, clothes, and cinematography for this was really, really good.

I also loved how at first it was Bai Zhi teasing Zhou Congye and trying to make him fall for her, with all sorts of hilarious shenanigans arising from her attempts to seduce him out of revenge. What made it even sweeter was that Wang Chengpeng did an amazing job starting off as an extremely cold and reserved character, into one that was crying and begging for the woman he loved to stay by his side. Zhai Yiying also effortlessly handles emotional scenes with ease, and I loved how she played a manipulative, intelligent, and scheming heroine who was absolutely willing to give the same kind of punishment that she received from those that wronged her and her family.

The chemistry is amazing in this one and the kiss scenes are so well-done (the one arm grab!). Although romance does take a backseat for revenge, I thoroughly enjoyed it and added it to my favourites list!

EDIT: I spoke too soon. The drama is still great and very well-acted, and I think definitely deserving of its high rating. However, within the 1.5 hour mark it has one of my least favourite tropes in romance media, and I think executing this section would have been better done in another way instead.

Really, really well-done, with a witty, funny, and endearing script, multifaceted characters, and an extremely believable romance that always takes centre stage. So many of the newer vertical dramas are showcasing just how versatile and flexible the genre is. What I appreciate the most is that being able to see so many new faces and different images illustrates just how much talent there is in the acting industry that hasn't had the opportunity or right script yet.

Zhao Zhendong is an interesting actor because of how he's both a newcomer in the scene but also relatively older compared to others in the vertical industry, and made a name for himself by playing extremely possessive, toxic, overbearing, and dominant characters. As others have already mentioned, this is a huge image shift for him, and I'm glad that he's selecting more roles and receiving more scripts that show how much more range he has (to be fair, I also love his red flag dramas). He has a lighter and more quieter voice, and the way that he is able to vocalize so many different ways through this script (I laughed when he yelled at Xu Xing to stop crying at the start of the drama) is absolutely lethal when combined with his expertise of using his microexpressions and gaze to show love and affection.

Zhai Yiying also completely nailed her role; this isn't exactly her first time playing a younger/cute heroine chasing after an older/uncle-like character (such as in Balloon Flower), but she really stood out in this series. I loved her styling, the way she was able to express her emotions through both sign language and her expressions, and I honestly couldn't recognize her from some of her previous roles. I'm glad she finally has a script that shows how naturally she can act, and how she can make characters that are more introverted and reserved extremely convincing by using body language and other expressions instead of dialogue.

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Oops you are totally right -- I meant to say there are good subs up until Episode 8, but starting from Episode 9 they aren't good (because that was the point when the original halting of the drama occurred on Youku). Thanks for making sure to clarify that, just made some changes and edits.

I had no idea that the WOWOW version also has cut scenes -- that's quite unfortunate, because Episodes 1 to 8 were very loyal and consistent to the novel (although I have heard some fans have some bones to pick with the adaptation for a variety of different reasons).

I totally feel the same about how important good subs are to this drama -- Priest has a way of making all of the cases wrap up and draw upon each other, so missing certain hints and things I think do impact your enjoyment (it's also fun to rewatch to catch things viewers may have not have seen earlier). Really hoping that we get good English subs in the future!

So to summarize the issues around the fansubs below -- I've been very confused over the situation, and hope it's okay to do a general overview of the situation:

1. There are no official English subtitles right now, only official Japanese subtitles because the drama is only aired on WOWOW on Demand. There's a lot of hope that a platform like Viki will potentially get the license, but this is all speculation right now and unknown.

2. There are fan translators who are translating and sharing clips via other platforms (will not be named out of concerns of causing issues), however they have effectively stopped and restricted access because WOWOW issued a copyright notice a while ago/indicated the possibility of curbing the episode release if this continues. Whether or not that's a serious threat, fan translators have essentially "shut down" the public sharing of their translations until everything airs. They have also asked that people do not share these translations on sites like kisskh or on other platforms. There is a possibility that the fan group may release them after all episodes are uploaded, but this is uncertain.

3. Good English subtitles are important because the cases are complex and the original author, Priest, actually incorporates a lot of different hints and nuances in her work that will be frustrated/flattened through bad subtitling. Right now there are NO good subtitles after Episode 8(when the drama was pulled from its original broadcasting platform over content regulations), regardless of whichever platform this show is being illegally broadcast on.

So, for those who want to watch the drama right now, there are several options:

1. Wait until all the episodes are released and we potentially have the ability to access the fan translations (note that fan translators are doing this unpaid, without any remuneration, and really out of their own free time and passion).

2. Hope to the BL gods that we get a licensing of the drama through another platform.

3. Try to watch with machine translated subtitles (from my understand, the quality seems very mixed and not great right now, but others can comment if the quality is readable).

If there are any corrections required, please feel free to let me know -- I hope this however answers some confusion and the (extremely difficult to navigate) information about translations and translation quality through this thread. I definitely had to search back through a lot of comments to understand what was going on, so hopefully this is a useful resource. Please also let me know if I need to edit anything out of risk of a copyright strike or violation as well.

Sounds good! I would say Xichi's first major plot point (the one upcoming after the episodes you're watching) was quite predictable for me as someone who is a long-time drama watcher, but Zhai Xiaowen's acting was so well done it was still enjoyable for me to watch. On the other hand, Song Cong's (10, 11, 12) was personally quite difficult for me to sit through because of the fantastic performances and the difficult subject matter. If after these episodes you're still not convinced, I don't think this will be the show for you because the general direction of the show takes this format (fluff, then something difficult/challenging comes up, fluff again, then again another challenge).

I also agree with others who mention that the university arc (around Episode 18 and after) is less interesting compared to the high school one, but the themes and issues also are extremely emotional, so I feel like this is very much a drama that relies on how much you like and enjoy the characters.

I was also the same, I struggled so much to watch this for the first 8 episodes because of just how frustrating a lot of the characters were, especially the constantly assumptions over who liked who and the prioritization of crushes over friendships. However, what kept me watching was actually some of Huaner's inner monologues — they're certain sentences within the novel that are very reflective and speak as an "observer" reflecting on the challenges that they face, and usually come up during important scenes.

This ended up paying off, because I will say from around Episode 7, 8, and 9 when you get to one of the major issues Xichi faces, that's when the show really reveals its true face. From that point on, you have fluffy moments, then extremely traumatic scenes, and then fluff again, and then trauma again. In some ways, the first stretch of the drama fools you into thinking this is a sweet and wholesome show, when some of the problems the leads encounter are actually quite dark. I actually became quite nervous and anxious because of how realistic these issues were, and Always Home also doesn't really conclude them in a "happy" manner — instead, there's a lot of nuance and complexity to the characters.

If after seeing the first major plot point (I would say watch for 7, 8, 9 for Xichi, then 10, 11, 12 for Song Cong), you're still not feeling it, then I think it may be time to drop the series. There is a kind of tone shift through those episodes that pave the way for the rest of the show, but I do feel like you have to enjoy the characters in order to really like the series.

I'm on Episode 7 right now, and to be honest one of the things I'm really struggling with the drama is that I hadn't expected an entire complicated love pentagon (which even includes side characters). I'm actually kind of missing scenes where it's just Huan Er, Song Cong, and Xichi just hanging around, being worried about each other's family lives and hardships, and taking care of and protecting each other. Instead, from Episode 2 we've already jumped into a bunch of different versions of everyone assuming someone likes somebody else, which has been frustrating to watch.

On the flip side, Huan Er and Du Man are truly the best girls of the show. Du Man is strictly able to set boundaries with other people, has her own goals, minds her own business, yet at the same time treats others who care for her extremely kindly despite her sharp and harsh tongue. Huan Er has such a healthy way of becoming friends and caring about other people — I find it interesting that she chose the science stream when the inner monologues/sentences that she has made me think she was going to choose arts since she's so poetic and good at understanding people.

One of the best things about shorter dramas is that they often feature newer/lesser-known actors and actresses who are really, really good at their performances. This dropped with absolutely minimal fanfare and promo, and despite obviously being a lower-budget production, the script was excellent, the characters were likeable, and it has a really refreshing trajectory. It's so fun to see two characters who essentially start off as the villain x villainess trope, and then grow together and end up completely falling for each other. Although the ending is short, it's still an extremely good one (in some ways better than some of the half-finished or incomplete endings that we see from longer shows).

Cai Zhengjie does an amazing job pretend to be a weak and powerless Crown Prince who in fact is a strategist that simultaneously plans against his brothers AND also protects his woman, while Chen Siche does an amazing job as the Crown Princess who initially sets out for revenge but eventually works together with Yunsheng to achieve their shared goals. The transition of their relationship from enemies to lovers to a power couple is so beautifully done, while you can really see how much chemistry and mutual respect they have together. There's also very little filler given the short drama length, and after having watched multiple different series, I think this one is just as good as Money is Coming, except that it's the darker, less fluffier version of the series.

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Thank you, this is perfect to know! I was going to watch it while turning my brain off, but given what you mentioned I think I may wait a bit. I did enjoy Tale of Love and Loyalty but wasn't quite satisfied with the ending!

This drama was so, so good until around the midway mark. Others were correct that the drama brought forth by the SML wasn't worth the time, especially when I wanted more of what made the first stretch excellent (the longing, yearning, pining, and the subversion of a cold CEO to a puppy-like one) rather than wasting time on other characters.

That being said, the cinematography is gorgeous (it's like each episode is filmed as if it were a short film or music video), and the drama really brings intimacy to life — you feel as if you're genuinely watching two people fall in love with each other, and their day-to-day gestures are so realistic and affectionate.

Okay, I'm planning to go into this with extremely low expectations, but can anyone give a quick rundown of who WOULD enjoy this drama, and what to expect when going into it? Thank you so much!

I am struggling a bit to rate this, because it's not awful or terrible, but it also has lots of pacing problems and issues. Granted, I'm coming into this with extremely low expectations. Song Weilong really struggled to emote in his previous dramas such as In A Class of Her Own, and in some ways his appearance is a double-edged sword in relation to discussions about his acting performances. On the other hand, despite her excellent work ethic and how well-known she is for her professionalism on variety shows, Angelababy is absolutely famous for the "is she crying or is she laughing" meme. Her performance in the Love O2O movie was non-existent, and when there are so many actors and actresses who have had long periods of lack of work or projects despite their skills, it's no doubt why both of them have had major criticisms over their acting.

That being said, I was actually very pleasantly surprised to note that while I still don't think the acting is really there, both their performances have gotten better, and they actually do have relatively good chemistry together. I agree with other comments however, that on paper everything about this sounds really interesting — Jun Qiluo as a character is absolutely fascinating and extremely clever and competent, and I wish more time was spent about her developing her strategies and her business rather than being captured and staying in Beixuan for a long period of time (and then slowly falling in love with Xuan Lie). The major issue is that by Episode 18 we're still in Beixuan, making sure Xuan Lie becomes the Wolf King, and dealing with Beixuan politics, yet we've learned far less about Yannan. On one hand, I can see why this decision was made in order to build up the romantic relationship between Xuan Lie and Jun Qiluo, but honestly because of the lack of development of Jun Qiluo's character and her goals, I feel as if both of them have kind of lost chemistry together after acknowledging each other's romantic feelings.

In any case, I think if you go into this one with really low expectations about the production, budget, acting, and storyline, you may find this to be a nice watch in between other shows. The setting refreshingly reminds me of Sound of the Desert and Goodbye My Princess, while I am absolutely in love with the recent wave of dramas such as The Double and A Journey to Love with extremely strategic and analytical women headling drama. Other than that, however, you'll have to make sure to not look for too much in the writing and the pacing, because this is definitely not a masterpiece in terms of its script and plot.

Love On is an original series by iQiyi and tends to feature scripts written in-house, but this is actually from a novel by the author who wrote the original source material for the film Better Days (2019) and the drama As Beautiful As You (2024).