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My take on the blow up/break up:
Both are at fault. HT - he misled her from the very beginning of his agreement to be her investor. He agreed to allow her full autonomy into the running of her business and it would not merge/be sold to another. Right there, their relationship was a power imbalance. It was an investor-entrepreneur relationship. The power imbalance is very apparent when they had their blow up. JX's fault lies in her being too emotional as a business owner.

I always thought from the very beginning that JX didn't understand the dynamics of a startup and how to attract investors. Her demands of maintaining full autonomy while seeking a high value investor was unrealistic. She has vision and she's skillful in her trade, I just don't think she does well as a big boss.

I understand why she was upset at learning about HH and HT's investment into her competing company. I also understand why she felt she was betrayed. But the words she used in her argument with HT were too hurtful because at the end of the day, she didn't lose her company - it was not taken from her - she just didn't have the full autonomy to run it as a big boss. She didn't want to be under anyone's thumb (because of her last employer) which is understandable. But while she is all upset over HT's business strategies which is felt as a betrayal, she isn't acknowledging how this is to ensure XC would thrive. When she cried in desperation to HT saying XC was hers and he had no say into taking it away from her - it just felt possessive. It's a company with shareholders. She's not putting XC in first place. She's putting herself in first place. While HT was in the wrong to not come clean with her (although from a business standpoint, he didn't owe her to tell her what other investments he has including one in direct competition) but he was in the wrong as her boyfriend.

In the end, people say she was being professional and a good boss for writing those individual emails to her colleagues- she treated them like her family - kudos to her. But she didn't show up at the business meeting to discuss the merger. That's not what a responsible leader would do. Instead, she leaves XC - in my view, she abandoned her baby because she didn't have full control of it anymore.

And while it is true that HT had in some way used XC to further his goals- it wasn't to the detriment of XC- and that was the line he was drawing. I also don't get why HT is 'scary' to JX. Scary because he was able to use the situation to his advantage? He can outwit his sister and competition? He wasn't scary to me - he was damn intelligent and he knows how to use his skillset and not abuse it to the detriment of others.

The breakup - HT was being very rational. Even his answer to the question of whether he loved JX was what a rational person may answer. But JX said she expected him to say he loves her to the end of the world and basically, a flowery answer - that's what a emotional person may expect. HT's answer isn't wrong but it reflects back to what his grandfather said - they have different outlooks life, values and goals - someone has to concede but both are prideful.

The breakup was necessary - and when they come back together they will be stronger.

A Gong Jun version of Su Muyu is being filmed. He will have red outfits

Father was smarter than son

I am super happy that Neo dubbed himself. He didn't in Back From the Brink (but I did like his dubber) and I desperately want to hear his own voice for these dramas. Once again, falling for which one of his outfits are my fave (I personally liked the darker ones for Neo).

There is only 9 episodes left and a lot of angst to come. It's going to be intense in a short time as the build up continues.

Anyone notice that Bai Shu is here as well but he plays his character's father this time.

I thought I read somewhere that this drama was suppose to be 70 episodes but even with two seasons combined, it's just 63 so I think they have to do so editing and it may not look as clean as we would like it.

Can you follow this before watching the 1st series?

Here is my theory on ep 6 where XY was asked a series of questions under XL's power (call it hypno or truth telling). She easily answered the questions of whether she wanted to marry Feng Long (a no), whether she would want to marry TSJ (a no) but a yes for the alias name she gave him (the version of TSJ without the burden of his responsibilities). But when she was asked who she wanted to spend the rest of her life with, she couldn't answer. It got too painful for her. If it was TSJ, she would have said his name or her alias name for him. If it was that obvious. But what wasn't obvious but is reflected in her obvious pain to resisting to answer that question truthfully, is that she wants XL.

But she knows she can't admit it, nor allow herself to give into her deepest desire because she said it before in season 1, she can't allow herself to even dream of him or even dream to want him because it has no good ending. Coupled with a constant reminder of the tragic fate between her mother and her lover aka alleged father, she didn't want that to come at all.

It highlights that there can be different answers: who she wants to spend her life with (XL), who she actually prefers to spend her life with (TSJ).

Current boyfriend is a womanizer. You hear the tips he gives to HT is enough to tell you what kind of person he is. He's basically just looking for sex and a nice dinner mate. He barely talks about himself and what he does and when Lili tried to, he shut the conversation down. So it tells you he's just not being serious with her. I hope Lili is smart enough to realize that he's not serious and to just enjoy it while it lasts.

It's not just her pride. JX wants to launch her own career with her own product and have full control it. However, HT's offer is more of a promotion from her original job working for an employer. She probably hated those office politics and not being recognized and value for her skillset. So while HT's offer would give her an immediate break and stability for her career, she wanted to stick it out on her startup.

Does anyone know in any of Xu Kai's interviews, was he ever asked to compare his role in Best Choice Ever? I've watched that drama and current up to date on this one, I struggle to see the distinction in his characters in both of these dramas. It's not meant to be a criticism as I thoroughly enjoy this drama. I'm curious as to the insight into the two roles.

You also missed the point of my comment which is my opinion that I am entitled to it. To call it petty jealousy, you can't take criticism then. I don't hate TSJ, I just find him boring and not worthy of me shipping for him. I even find Feng Long more interesting despite him having the least screen time. The guy is pragmatic. It's not a shame if I don't like TSJ. Why do we have to like him? Because XY does?

I also said TSJ didn't try to find other ways to save XY. I didn't say he didn't try at all. But he didn't hesitate when he saw his powers wasn't working to just give up and to die with her. Maybe people see that as an epic display of love, I rather see the man leave the formation and find someone to save XY. Because he had the power to leave the formation with XY but he chose to stay and die with her.

For me, I don't find TSJ interesting. I get XY wants an ordinary life but then again, without angst, we wouldn't be as hooked as we are. What XY wants is also rather in simple terms- she wants someone by her side, all the time and at all cost. Well, that would first require someone to have little to no responsibilities and to not really have aspirations. All other 3 men have their own aspirations and their goals that defines them. To simply give it all up (as TSJ would try to do, emphasize on the try) makes him just like a puppy slave to XY. You see that clearly when XY was borderline near death in season 1- he didn't think of trying to find other ways to save her or preserving her body to be saved (CX and XL did). Instead he just leaps to death with her. That's all great. And yes, all his moping around and not really fighting for XY is annoying. I don't even want to start on why he kept his brother alive after what he did to him. That's not compassion - that's plain stupid.

I've not been disappointed in any of LYX's dramas since his fame from Ashes of Love but this one, I made it to episode 8 and I just threw the white towel in. I can't feel anything to justify finishing this drama.

I started this for Leo as I am a huge fan. After a few episodes in, I didn't like it. Didn't understand snooker which is part of my problem with it. Another is the romance. While I don't mind a slow burn romance, I expect more to happen. I finished it after watching it in 1.5 to 2.0 speed because it was that boring to me. Nothing wrong with the acting. I just found the story too boring. I couldn't get excited. 30 episodes is way too long. I also detest the idea of 'getting married' so that other people wouldn't want to pursue them as even a thought. Not my cup of tea.

I'm catching up on this having waited until the announcement of the 2nd season so I wouldn't wait a whole year for the sequel. I'm just on episode 9 and I have to say, if Cheng Yi is known for his brutal and tragic roles then Yang Zi is the female counterpart. All of her period dramas have been absolute heartbreaking in torture, pain and regrets. Yes, I saw them in Immoral Samsara and they compliment each other so well.

No, I've had it for years.

Just wanted to say that WXY with his hair down and half draping on his face = new level of fire. I realize that all of his period dramas have his hair up and for that short scene of his hair down, OMG...I want more.

Is this meant to be the last part of Love You Forever?