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She actually is although indirectly. If she didn't decided she had to save the old and injured general, his mother wouldn't have been involved. If it was discovered that his mother was involved in helping the old general escape, she wouldn't have been left to live. There is a Chinese saying where it means something along the lines of, just because you didn't cause the person's death, they did die because of them. That's how I see CG in relation to his mother. But like I said, Sun internalizes it as his fault for not protecting his mother which serves to reconcile his regret for saying what he did to CG when he was in grief.

I had planned to take today off work (work from home) in order to watch all 8 new episodes today. I have to say, that it broke my heart to see CG putting her life in danger for something that is none of her business AGAIN and she completely ruin the efforts of Sun risking his life to save her. That scene where he is utterly disappointed but can't do much about it is spot on. I then love how Shi Er does a 180 on Sun after realizing his big mistake and chose to actually save Sun when it was the best opportunity to take him down. He is not a complete coward and an idiot. For once, we aren't stuck with an antagonist with only one sided evil but one where you can start to sympathize with.

It was painful to see the 4-5 episodes where CG and Sun are separated. Most painful than seeing LeYan being 'missing' for over 10 episodes. So painful, you can see it in Sun's eyes - that anxiousness and eagerness to find her because they left on bad terms. That just speaks to how great Sun is. He had every reason to hate CG or blame her for losing the only family member he had. He doesn't. He internalizes it as his fault for not doing enough to protect the people he cares for. It frustrates me to see CG is trying to be a hero in other people's story arc. It's part of her growing up to see the error of her ways- too stubborn to accept advice from others, only going by what she believes to be the necessary thing to do.

I'm happy to see the couple reunites in ep 31 to come given the previews. My heart aches for their separation. I was literally screaming when I saw Sun in CG's room and didn't see on the floor of paper with his name written all over it. For once, we see that CG starts caring for Sun and longs for him.

I don't know how I am going to survive 4 full days without new episodes. I need to take part of Monday off too :)

I was blown away. I've not seen him portray that level of internal conflict mixed with unbearable grief in 90 seconds. It's just beautiful.

That's exactly the reason why he did shoot at her. It's explained in ep 17

I'm trying to and I'm watching Rattan because spending every waking minute yearning for Monday to come is hard :)

I 100% agree with you. Part of why I love Ashina Sun's character is his way of protecting CG isn't the commonly seen behaviour of MLs being overly protective of a FL. He recognizes that she needs to be able to stand up on her own- sure if he lends a hand but he doesn't give the impression that CG must be dependent on him in order to survive. That is so 21st century way of how a partner should support the other.

Leo Wu's recent interview where he answered which was his most favorite/memorable lines and it was the one I truly love the most as well from ep 16 where he tells her that she had to keep living on with her life even if only to be able to one day kill him - he tried to give her a purpose to live at a time she felt great loss and dispair. It's truly powerful and I love that scene. I read comments before of how Leo is too young for Dilraba but I found him very matured- the combined costumes, hairstyle and his overall presentation makes him appear older. Even his strategies on dealing with problems show the depth of his character. I have to say he is one of the most fave MLs to date and I can't get enough of him.

I don't understand the hype for shipping the 2nd leads other than eagerly awaiting their reunion. I'm sure there is a good story to their developing romance but at the moment, it's really just trying to find her and her trying to survive with little she can do. I on the other hand and obsessed with the main leads and want more and more of their screen time.

If you are referring to CG and Sun's dialogue- it' appears Sun got hurt earlier (unknown reason) but likely due to protecting CG so she apologizes to him. She wants to save someone (likely as a captive/hostage) but it's beyond her ability to do so. Sun tries to convince her not to risk her life. She won't listen to his advice and asks him to not get involved.

As someone who has watched many many dramas with Chinese war battles, I've never cried at the scenes of uttered defeat and lost. Sure I felt sad but never to the depth of pure pain you feel through the storyline. Episodes 13-15 were painful to watch but a must see to understand the growth that CG will go through. I absolutely love every second that Leo is in. I've seen him since Condor Hero years where he played the young Yang Guo in the Chen Xiao/Michelle Chen version. I saw him again in Whirlwind Girl, Nirvana and most recently, Cross Fire. Cross Fire is in my opinion the most matured performance from Leo before the Long Ballad. In this, he is amazing even though I've not read the novel, I believe his portrayal of his character is remarkable.

I can wait for more scenes of him with CG. Prior to episode 16, there has been very few short scenes of them together but with the continuing storyline, I can't wait to see CG turn around and genuinely accept Ashina Sun.

The first 10 episodes of The Untamed didn't have particularly high ratings because the storyline's pace wasn't very good/interesting (reviewers points) and the ratings didn't make a sharp turn upright till that crucial key episode #14 onwards. But with Word of Honor, we see a steady pace of the storyline, making the viewers beg for the next episode as sugar fixes are dropped left, right and centre. I'm on episode 14 now and I can see it has increase those moments even more. I truly hope we can make it to the final episode.

It's the highlight of my every morning it airs (I'm in a different timezone) and I got a bit sad yesterday when there are no episodes released on a Sunday. boo.

I think people should be careful not to comment on social media too much about it having flirting scenes, BL stuff in general as it continues to air. There is always an ability to cut episodes, cut scenes and re-edited if the Chinese media officials are getting too much wind that this is too much BL. It passed censorship, great. But we don't need to constantly point it out online. Once it's all aired, feel free to talk to hearts content but they do pay attention to online forums about the drama. Btw, I'm not a hater. I love this drama and I giggle at certain scenes. The Untamed has made me love BL dramas more.

Same here, I 'snoozed' for the first 25 episodes and the real turning point was seeing XY showing he was ill and then the attempts on trying to prolong his life were the best episodes. The ending was meh for me. All this big hype leading to the takedown of the big villain was just unremarkable. I did end up watching all 51 but honestly, not re watch worthy.

I'm here for my fave, Luo Jin and Yuan shan shan however, I've long awaited a decently made chinese drama that would showcase China's ethnic minority groups. Many of these groups have such unique traditions and rich in cultural history that many people aren't aware. They face particular set of challenges for prosperity and the ability to be self-sufficient are unique to them. I'm willing to give it a try to be educated on this and to appreciate the challenges faced by ethnic minorities.

I'm on ep 15 now, already started losing interest around 11. I can't even remember what is happening with the plot as it's not even memorable. I've resolved to using it as background noise while I do work. If not for ZLY, I wouldn't care for this drama. So much for high hopes and anticipation.

I'm at 36 but it's lost my interest a dozen episodes back- I'm still in it cuz I have to finish it but it's not as painful as Winner is Love even though I like Luo Yun Xi. Allen Ren isn't bad here but I'm just not connecting to the series. The trailer made it look very good but sadly it's another disappointing series - 3 one in a row for me.

I missed seeing Xu Kai and love that he's reunited with Wu Jia Yi from Military Arsenal Academy. In that series, Wu Jia Yi had an unrequited love for Xu Kai's character. At least in this series, they are meant to be lovers. I cringed to hear the dubbing again but it's the same dubber for Xu Kai in Military Arsenal Academy- so that is more acceptable to me. Can't wait to start the episodes.

I'm on episode 18 and I'm quickly losing interest. I think it will go back once Allen Ren's character turns dark but until then, I'm just watching to fill silent air

I admit that when it was first released and I heard bits and pieces of it's amazingness, I was hesitant to watch. I recall hearing the male leads were from boy bands (that turned me off) as I wasn't interested in boy bands and their music. I belong in the generation of looking for more experienced actors. I also heard there wasn't much of a romance part (no female lead), that also turned me away. So I missed the initial hype and excitement. Fast forward to April 2020, during quarantine, I saw a clip on youtube of The Untamed, I was hooked. Sadly, the clip I saw was from episode 42 and I went to episode 1 and binged it in 4-5 days of the 50 episodes.

I found myself replaying various scenes that I loved- upwards to a dozen times. I admit, I have become one of those fans- can't get enough and can't get into any new dramas afterwards. I never read the novel nor watched the animation so I only had the show's synopsis to go by- it does not do proper justice.

What really got me hooked to the show- several aspects. Xiao Zhan's super acting. I didn't know him prior to the show. When searching his bio, I realized he was in Battle Break Sphere which I also loved. I recalled a character in their that caught my eye but didn't know his name- it was him. I always like a good story where the main lead has complex emotional scenes- one of my fave is Hu Ge in Nirvana in Fire. Xiao Zhan's portrayal of WWX's 3 lives is very distinct and what is the true beauty is to get the audience to truly feel what he's feeling at that given scene- immerse into that hard place he's in. We feel happy when WWX is sad, we feel sad when WWX is sad.

I also liked that the story was neatly tied together- with mystery and the whole thing about morals- right and wrong. Despite people saying there was more than friendship between WWX and LZ- I still like the subtleness they did in portraying those scenes together. There is quite a few xuxia dramas- maybe older ones that talk about brotherhood and it's intensity may be viewed by the Western world as boy love but I think WWX and LZ chemistry is just that intensive brotherhood. The one where they would die for each other.

So many painful and heartfelt scenes to compare- the one that really takes the cake is JC finding out about his golden core. WWX's ultimate sacrifice is right there. Many wuxia characters would leap to their deaths for their loved ones- that's sacrifice but WWX sacrifice I would argue is the greatest of them all. Why? It's easy to just off yourself in place of the person- you end up dead. End of story. But what about when you make the sacrifice that gives meaning to your life but still live on? That's WWX's sacrifice. He gave up what would define him, make him survive in The Untamed world but he nonetheless still has to live on- that's painful. In contrast to JC, he lost his core = he lost his will to even live. WWX is stronger than that. Even before he learned demonic cultivation, he wasn't eager to die. Given time, he would figure out how to live- it may be more simpler, less heroic but he would be with his family (which mattered a lot to him), he would still have his best friend, JC. He would have found a way to survive.

Overall, despite a nearly all new/young cast- all characters were played wonderfully well. Even the minor roles of Xue Yang, Xiao xing chen, etc. They had their own story arc that equally tugs the heartstrings. So now, I find myself watching all those BTS, interviews- anything to keep the obsession alive.