The confidence with which KSH/GM are filing lawsuits now smells fishy. It's as if they (KSH/GM) planted that informant.
Exactly my thoughts. This seems like a set-up and the recording might even be from GM, that's why they say they have the metadata of the voice recording and all. How would they have that, when they said they didn't give in to the informant's demands???? How did they get hold of it if they aren't the ones who fabricated it?? And to immediately have a statement ready right after GRI's presscon reeks of a deliberate scheme to discredit GRI and his claims.
Knew it this is fake too. Just because Wonbin lives a quite live they found a way to use his name too. Wonbin…
Yes, this is one of sticking points that made me doubt the informant and his wife's story. It sounds pretty much like they are dropping names in hopes of a huge payday.
It was not surprising to me as this newest "evidence" seems too farfetched. This just puts a big dent in GRI/KSR's…
Yes, if GRI only stuck to the original claims, that KSH dated a minor, the indignation would still be there. However, the more outrageous the claims get, the less people will believe them.
GRI's intent for justice has now become less meaningful and looks more like seeking sensationalism.
I hope KSRs family doesn't regret reaching out to GaroSero.
Indeed, they are the ones who will bear the consequences of such lies, even though they are not made by them.
KsR's voice was AI in the recordong:https://youtube.com/shorts/oppgrLw3s3I?si=uNllTbI_L-XRUh-I
It was not surprising to me as this newest "evidence" seems too farfetched. This just puts a big dent in GRI/KSR's case, because all their previous claims, even if all of them are true, will be called into question.
If an ordinary person like me can spot this scam a mile away, I don't understand why someone who is supposed to be an investigative reporter, would fall for such a blatant fabrication clearly meant to extort money.
It's been revealed that this informant has gone to other people as well, including the journalist mentioned in the recordings, and peddled his wares, hoping to get something out of it.
It's just sad, that the original intent of KSR's family, to seek an apology from KSH for his transgressions against their daughter, became such a dirty game, played by people who intend to drag her KSR'S name into the mud.
It's probably a blessing in disguise that she's not alive to see this ruckus, and her family's suffering because she misplaced her faith in one man, who never intended to marry her in the first place.
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*Sigh* This was what I was afraid of, that it was an elaborate set-up meant to lure GRI into making statements that can be argued as false. That GRI didn't bother to fact check this, is concerning to me. How can this Informant change his tune so fast, makes me wonder if this is all part of GM's plan all along, so they can undo all the real evidence that GRI had, by exposing this fake one. This is very much like poking a hole in a scarf and find that thread that would unravel the whole case.
Even when I heard the story, as much as I wanted to believe that this was real, there were too many plot holes and glaring inconsistencies. 1) A crime or stabbing of this magnitude would make it to the news (even local), but didn't 2) Using stock photos instead of real photographs as "evidence" makes me think that they don't have the real injuries in the first place 3) To be stabbed in the neck that brutally, and to be released from hospital temporarily just to take said "evidence" reeks of baloney 4) The video recording reads like a script that addresses all the points so far given against KSH. 5) Bringing in Won Bin into the conversation, implying that he visited the informant's family in NY, was for me the last straw. If Won Bin would help anyone, I believe it would be KSR's family first. Why would he help a random informant residing in another country, if KSR's family didn't even mention anything about the actor. 6) With AI tech these days, it's easier to fabricate recordings. I lend more credence to the photos saved in KSR's old phone, and those text messages between them. As long there's metadata to substantiate these, I deem them as real.
Sadly, the losers in this game is KSR and her family in the end.
Girl can u plz wait before jumping to conclusions???? This is a long fight...why are u writing something so discouraging...many…
It could even not be GaroSero who fabricated this recent evidence. They could also believe them to be real, but are presented by this informant. Have they fact checked the recordings that this informant have provided? Have they deemed the injuries to be real? And if so, why use stock photos as evidence when they could just have taken photographs of his real injuries, or at least, ask the informant to submit those photos, a video would even be better. The more credence that GRI can give, the stronger their case would be and would leave very little room for GM to refute their evidence.
Either way, I doubt that KSH will ever come back into the entertainment industry, at least not for the foreseeable future.
This is what I was afraid of, and KSH's team already made note of it, saying "Gold Medalist is appalled by Hoverlab's press conference, which serves as definitive proof that the many claims which Hoverlab has made previously are false and fabricated. "
So like I said in my OP, even if ALL the claims from GRI have been true, GM just needs to prove 1 statement to be false, and everything else will come into question.
Girl can u plz wait before jumping to conclusions???? This is a long fight...why are u writing something so discouraging...many…
Exactly!! They shouldn't have even included those pictures in the press con. They are just opening themselves up to scrutiny, as what happened in this case. To change the statement after the fact, does not do their side any favors. The disclaimer should be at the beginning.
Girl can u plz wait before jumping to conclusions???? This is a long fight...why are u writing something so discouraging...many…
The one who is actually hurting KSR's case is not KSH team. GRI was doing fine all along, if they stick to the issue. I'm not saying KSH shouldn't be exposed. If he did the crimes, then rightfully he should be condemned.
Remember how in the beginning NewJeans had the public on their side, with all the claims that were all revealed in the pubic forum? Then when the case actually went to trial, everything else started to unfold?
Actually, there's nowhere did I say that KSR was lying. She could be telling the truth 100%, I believe that KSH *DID* groom her and had a hand in her death. But the latest recording that was released seemed too "clean" for me. As in, why would someone tell an informant who is not even a friend, all the dirty details regarding a relationship that happened during her middle school years? Remember, she was even protective of this man for years, years! So why even attempt to expose him a month before her death?
Also if this recording existed before, why did it only surface now?? This looks like people coming out of the woodwork once someone else hits the lottery, a means to extort, and the real victim in this case is KSR's family who has been trying to so hard to clear their daughter's name. Now, people have been given ammunition to sully KSR even further, and criticize the family for not doing more when she was alive.
Of course, GRI doesn't care, it's just directing traffic to their site. So I hope, just as you do, that these recent allegations are NOT fabricated.
Which begs the question, how can they release a statement so fast, as if they didn't already know the contents of GRI's press con? Usually, it takes them days to refute GRI's claims.
Girl can u plz wait before jumping to conclusions???? This is a long fight...why are u writing something so discouraging...many…
KSH defenders can use the same argument though, that we are jumping to conclusions about KSH's crimes. I am afraid people will lose focus of what started this in the first place: KSH sleeping with a minor and pushing KSR to her death. The more outrageous claims will just bury this to the ground.
I don't understand why they should withhold any information that they have. It would be the general public's fault…
Conversely, if there's no truth to this, not saying that GRI lied, but what if they were handed fake evidence from the alleged informant, that is possible too. And if this is the case, then all the previous claims that GRI did, even all true, will be called into question and lumped together with the fake.
Believe me i hate ksh with every fiber of my being but isn't all this a bit too far fetched😅, arranging murders,…
I agree with you. I'm afraid that this is an elaborate setup by GM and GaroSero just fell into their trap. All GRI"s hard work in trying to bring justice for KSR will be for naught, and all their previous claims could be discredited. They should have just stopped at KSH dating KSR when she was a minor and leave it at that. All these new "information" are just clouding already muddy waters. It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
I'm afraid that this is an elaborate setup by GM and GaroSero just fell into their trap. All GRI"s hard work in trying to bring justice for KSR will be for naught, and all their previous claims could be discredited. They should have just stopped at KSH dating KSR when she was a minor and leave it at that. All these new "information" are just clouding already muddy waters. It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
I'm afraid that this is an elaborate setup by GM and GaroSero just fell into their trap. All GRI"s hard work in trying to bring justice for KSR will be for naught, and all their previous claims could be discredited. They should have just stopped at KSH dating KSR when she was a minor and leave it at that. All these new "information" are just clouding already muddy waters. It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
I'm afraid that this is an elaborate setup by GM and GaroSero just fell into their trap. All GRI"s hard work in trying to bring justice for KSR will be for naught, and all their previous claims could be discredited. They should have just stopped at KSH dating KSR when she was a minor and leave it at that. All these new "information" are just clouding already muddy waters. It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
It sounds too neat... Like, here's a recording where Sae Ron says exactly what everyone wants to hear like a script.…
I'm on the same boat as you. This case is getting weirder and I'm also afraid that this is a set up to catch GRI in a fabrication done by GM so it could invalidate all their previous claims.
I feel the same about the FL she was more trouble than heroic and thought provoking to the point of making a joke…
I've watched a lot of step-sibling romance (a trope somehow prominent in BL dramas), but most of them involved knowledge of their relationship from the get go. It was not really cringe for me per se, but it was less believable, especially on the FL's side.
She was more mad that she wasn't privy to this information, than shocked at the revelation.
Also, the majority of the ones I've watched had pushbacks against such relationships and only over a long time were their relationship were remotely accepted.
Perhaps this drama couldn't be bothered to throw in another arc of suffering towards Timing since being stalked by a powerful man was bad enough.
I understand that sometimes an article is referencing what is being said, the controversy, not necessarily supporting…
Yes, I agree with you, that reporting on articles, especially the negative reaction from netizens is also part of the "news" and cannot be avoided just because it's not favorable to the actress. However, if they claim to be impartial, then do so across the board, and NOT just pick and choose what supports her stance. If she can claim neutrality on the KSH scandal, then she can do the same here.
However, the last few paragraphs show a bias that is not part of "reporting." The report on the production halt is valid, and even on some of the thoughts of netizens that you can reiterate, if you are only purporting to be the "messenger" of those thoughts and not the perpetrator. But when she writes: "After all, true healing should never come from publicity of pain and tears, but from genuine respect for the dignity of every person, be it a celebrity or a common man," it divulges her own thoughts.
This editor is implying that ZLS does not have respect for people and deserves to be criticized. How ironic it is that she does not report on the same tactic employed by a certain someone, using the publicity of pain and tears.
GRI's intent for justice has now become less meaningful and looks more like seeking sensationalism.
I hope KSRs family doesn't regret reaching out to GaroSero.
Indeed, they are the ones who will bear the consequences of such lies, even though they are not made by them.
If an ordinary person like me can spot this scam a mile away, I don't understand why someone who is supposed to be an investigative reporter, would fall for such a blatant fabrication clearly meant to extort money.
It's been revealed that this informant has gone to other people as well, including the journalist mentioned in the recordings, and peddled his wares, hoping to get something out of it.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/sbs-reporter-slaps-garo-sero-lawsuit-denounces-kim-sae-ron-recordings-fake/
It's just sad, that the original intent of KSR's family, to seek an apology from KSH for his transgressions against their daughter, became such a dirty game, played by people who intend to drag her KSR'S name into the mud.
It's probably a blessing in disguise that she's not alive to see this ruckus, and her family's suffering because she misplaced her faith in one man, who never intended to marry her in the first place.
I made some of the points as well in my other comments here:
https://kisskh.at/people/424-kim-soo-hyun#comment-21867492
https://kisskh.at/people/424-kim-soo-hyun#comment-21857758
https://kisskh.at/people/424-kim-soo-hyun#comment-21860882
Even when I heard the story, as much as I wanted to believe that this was real, there were too many plot holes and glaring inconsistencies.
1) A crime or stabbing of this magnitude would make it to the news (even local), but didn't
2) Using stock photos instead of real photographs as "evidence" makes me think that they don't have the real injuries in the first place
3) To be stabbed in the neck that brutally, and to be released from hospital temporarily just to take said "evidence" reeks of baloney
4) The video recording reads like a script that addresses all the points so far given against KSH.
5) Bringing in Won Bin into the conversation, implying that he visited the informant's family in NY, was for me the last straw. If Won Bin would help anyone, I believe it would be KSR's family first. Why would he help a random informant residing in another country, if KSR's family didn't even mention anything about the actor.
6) With AI tech these days, it's easier to fabricate recordings. I lend more credence to the photos saved in KSR's old phone, and those text messages between them. As long there's metadata to substantiate these, I deem them as real.
Sadly, the losers in this game is KSR and her family in the end.
Either way, I doubt that KSH will ever come back into the entertainment industry, at least not for the foreseeable future.
This is what I was afraid of, and KSH's team already made note of it, saying "Gold Medalist is appalled by Hoverlab's press conference, which serves as definitive proof that the many claims which Hoverlab has made previously are false and fabricated. "
So like I said in my OP, even if ALL the claims from GRI have been true, GM just needs to prove 1 statement to be false, and everything else will come into question.
Remember how in the beginning NewJeans had the public on their side, with all the claims that were all revealed in the pubic forum? Then when the case actually went to trial, everything else started to unfold?
Actually, there's nowhere did I say that KSR was lying. She could be telling the truth 100%, I believe that KSH *DID* groom her and had a hand in her death. But the latest recording that was released seemed too "clean" for me. As in, why would someone tell an informant who is not even a friend, all the dirty details regarding a relationship that happened during her middle school years? Remember, she was even protective of this man for years, years! So why even attempt to expose him a month before her death?
Also if this recording existed before, why did it only surface now?? This looks like people coming out of the woodwork once someone else hits the lottery, a means to extort, and the real victim in this case is KSR's family who has been trying to so hard to clear their daughter's name. Now, people have been given ammunition to sully KSR even further, and criticize the family for not doing more when she was alive.
Of course, GRI doesn't care, it's just directing traffic to their site. So I hope, just as you do, that these recent allegations are NOT fabricated.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/kim-soo-hyun-statement-regarding-garo-sero-claims-press-conference/
Which begs the question, how can they release a statement so fast, as if they didn't already know the contents of GRI's press con? Usually, it takes them days to refute GRI's claims.
It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
It's sad that the fight for KSR's justice became this sensationalized drama that becomes stranger the longer the case drags on.
She was more mad that she wasn't privy to this information, than shocked at the revelation.
Also, the majority of the ones I've watched had pushbacks against such relationships and only over a long time were their relationship were remotely accepted.
Perhaps this drama couldn't be bothered to throw in another arc of suffering towards Timing since being stalked by a powerful man was bad enough.
However, the last few paragraphs show a bias that is not part of "reporting."
The report on the production halt is valid, and even on some of the thoughts of netizens that you can reiterate, if you are only purporting to be the "messenger" of those thoughts and not the perpetrator. But when she writes: "After all, true healing should never come from publicity of pain and tears, but from genuine respect for the dignity of every person, be it a celebrity or a common man," it divulges her own thoughts.
This editor is implying that ZLS does not have respect for people and deserves to be criticized. How ironic it is that she does not report on the same tactic employed by a certain someone, using the publicity of pain and tears.