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But wasn't it President Moon the same president that ordered the extensive investigation on the Burning Sun Scandal? If it wasn't for this, most likely nobody will be prosecuted from that....so without a President calling for further investigation....how else would they open this particular can of worms??

I never said she "wasn't' okay with the relationship. Obviously it takes two to tango.

Forget about a romantic relationship for a second. If this was a teen and her father, and the father takes the teen on a shooting spree, who do you think the Police is going to look at first? Who is going to pay heavier for the same crime? Chances are, it's the adult.
You know why? because adults are supposed to be the sensible one.

They should be the ones setting the example and not the other way around. And that's why you have a different set of laws for adults and for juveniles for this exact reason.

If you looked at all my past comments, I didn't absolve her of her involvement in their relationship. But flip it the other way and let's say we believe that they only dated when they were adults as KSH claims. Wouldn't it be more concerning that he's doing all that (on cam, pics, chat) when they're NOT in a relationship?

I've long said that he won't get the huge backlash that he's facing right now if he just admitted to dating KSR when she was 15 and moved on..

The law couldn't even touch him, so what was he so afraid of? And what made him look more deplorable was his actions AFTER they dated (the debt collection, etc), and his stubborn insistence.

You are right that there's so many couples who started their relationships when one party was young. Like I mentioned before, Celine and her husband, Marcon and his wife to name a few. But the difference between their cases and KSH is that the other couples acknowledged their status and after some time, they proved their naysayers wrong and had long-lasting relationships.

If KSH had treated her well, if KSR had not died, chances are, this vilification would not have happened, or if it happens, will not be as severe. But because the circumstances surrounding KSH-KSR's relationship sounded Sus at best, and sinister at worst, that's why he gets all this hate directed towards him.

I mean he could have slightly rectified it yesterday by issuing an apology, but instead he doubled-down on the lawsuits, and that my friend, doesn't make a good look.

Oh! I see what you mean. How could I even think that there's something wrong with dating a teen when I'm a grown ass man! My bad. It's not like I forced her to be with me, you know how I chased her and insisted on being with her, I was actually trying only to be nice. Like a Big Oppa to a little sister. So there's nothing wrong with kissing her sometimes or wanting to hug her because she's just so darn cute. I don't know why I find her so adorable, because you know it's so normal that I'm not afraid to tell the world about it. But on second thought, maybe we should just hide our relationship for a few years from your parents and friends.
This way, I can also date other girls and it would not look like we were a couple if I become "friends" with so many of you! I don't know why I find this so fascinating! Like choosing who I will date today is just like choosing what clothes to wear tonight!

Nobody is gonna complain about it because it's soon soooo normal, to be sending "my little sister" sexually suggestive videos because EVERYONE else is doing it. You know because if Elvis can do it, so can I! If he's the King of Rock, then I'm the King of Socks!!

LKB & Partners is representing KSH and they are part of the prosecution pursuing the impeachment of Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol. It is comprised of lawyers who were previously prosecutors or judges and handles cases for high profile people. So pretty much, a Goliath in the legal industry compared to KSR's family's lawyers. Unfortunately, money talks, therefore corruption exists.

KSH must be proud to have a law named after him. After all, he wants to go down in history and what better way to commemorate him with a rape law named after the Star!

Exactly. This is what I was lamenting about when KSH first got exposed. The perpetrators of the Burning Sun got very light sentences for their crimes and their offenses were more widespread and more serious than KSH dating a minor. So if Seungri can get away with a few months in jail, KSH will just have to lie low a bit, and bide his time until all this blows over, and he can walk away unscathed, albeit a ruined reputation. Meanwhile KSR, Sulli and their families may never get the justice or closure they deserve.

It's like certain people claiming everything they don't like to hear is "Fake news' "Fake news" but when asked what's fake about it, they can't pinpoint exactly what's wrong with the news, and just says "Everything! Everything is fake."

You know that's why when they teach people to lie, the first rule of thumb is NOT to provide too many details. This is so that you don't trip on your lies if they get convoluted.

If you are telling the truth, you will NOT be afraid of being picked apart. Because you will be consistent in your answers. Granted, memory can be foggy sometimes especially when you get older. But I doubt you will forget someone if they dated for that long.

Unless of course, he was juggling too many women at the same time that his recollection became fuzzy.

I think the groomer enablers who keep insisting that KSR's family should have gone to the police instead of the media...have a short term memory.

They forgot what happened to the guy who first alerted the police on what's happening in the Burning Sun. He got assaulted, framed, and used as a scapegoat, by none other than the police who had ties to the whole damn organization.

The scandal only came to light when a media report about it surfaced, as it picked up the story he posted on an online forum detailing his injuries and bad experience at the hands of those who are supposed to protect you.

The original director of Real also spoke of a media-political cartel that exists who will bury secrets and those who are not careful to cross those in power. So it's only reasonable that KSR's family sought the media (after numerous attempts) to air their grievances.

Now, here comes the sad part. There's always going to be one or more of these type of clandestine organizations operating in every country, no matter what century you live in. So if they are dealing with this type of structure, instead of just KSH himself, I'm afraid it will be an uphill battle for KSR's family.

Now, I'm not suggesting that KSH is part of the Korean Mafia that he's so untouchable, and KSR's family are foolish enough to take him on. That is, if you go by GaroSero's claim, that KSH's skeleton closet is bigger than the Nth room. I think this is mere posturing on Garo's part.

On the other hand, you never know, KSH could imagine himself as a real-life Vincenzo. What's one more alter ego, if you already have a few.

Also don't forget the connection between Kwak Tae Young who was KSR's manager at GM continued to manage KSR after she left GM. And it was widely believed that Kwak Tae Young was the one who leaked all the recordings about KSR to Lee Jin Ho, who used these leaked tapes to harass KSR.

LJH admitted the connection to KTY recently when a conversation between him, a forensic expert and a friend of KSR'S was secretly recorded and later exposed.

So it's not a farfetched theory that KTY was sent by KSH to keep tabs on KSR, since KTY still has ties to GM.

If the court can prove that LJH's incessant harassment of KSR led to her death, and by a few degrees of separation, connects the dots to KSH, there is probable cause that KSH directly (if he gave explicit orders), or indirectly (if he only made insinuations) contributed to KSR'S distress and eventual Su:c:de.

I agree that Park Sung Hoon shouldn't be on the list. I didn't know that sharing an. X- rated is now a crime. If that's the case, might as well put half of all the celebrities on on this list.

I've worked with someone who is a classic narcissist over 12 years that he even got people conspiring with him doing incorrigible stuff. They are very charming at first that you don't think any of it, until later you question whether you still have your moral compass.. Only when they breach your threshold that this is where I draw the line, that you realize, you've been lured into his web of lies all along.

That's what happens when We get too invested in the actors on screen persona and fall for it, usually forgetting that they could be totally different people in real life.
That's what happened to me with Kim Hyun Joong and Aaron Yan and after that I stopped stabbing celebrities.

I think the uptick may not necessarily be an indication that he had more genuine followers, but it could be a combination of the following:

- fake accounts his company or his fans created to bolster support
- accounts who followed him for more updates only (out of curiosity)
- a niche of people who found his faux performance convincing
- a new batch of brainless people who just like him for his looks

Please take a bow! Well said!

Yes, neither do I wish him death. It's his staunch supporters that are saying that. Because we don't agree with what KSH was presenting as "truth" and call him on it, that we are bullies driving him to his demise.

And I also agree that People who are narcissistic do not feel guilt or remorse and will only show signs of it because they are expected to feel guilt / remorse as any normal human being. They are just learning from social cues, just like how psychopaths try to adjust in society by exhibiting a semblance of human emotions that they lack to begin with.

So I think it's less the fear of dying that prevents narcissists from taking their own lives, but the lack of care or empathy for others, where they do not see the things that people may consider hurtful or harmful, are actually non-consequential to them.

I actually didn't watch the video at all or the press conference live. I thought looking at his face would just make me hurl something at the TV/laptop/computer and I wanted to protect my electronic devices so I just read the full statement instead. Can't be bothered spending 40 minutes watching him when I could watch my dramas.

Insert standing ovation emoji!

I feel the reporting was not leaning either way. It presented a summary of what was the issue and what was the response, and nothing more than I think is necessary.

All in Favor! Aye!

There are a lot of things that I see in KSH statement during the press con, but one of the things he said stood out to me:

"The bereaved revealed KakaoTalk messages that the deceased and I shared during a recent press conference. And based on these messages, the YouTube channel is framing me to be a grooming pedophile. But the people speaking in these KakaoTalk messages from 2016 and 2018 are different people. To prove this, I submitted the bereaved’s copies of the 2016 and 2018 messages, along with my personal copies of this year’s KakaoTalk messages to my friends to an analysis organization that specializes in statement forensics. The analysis concluded that the speakers in the 2016 and 2018 messages were all different."

From this I gathered what was NOT being said, which is, the Kakaotalk messages are real, but just not written by him, implying KSR was actually talking to another person.
Well, we know that he is telling the truth here, because KSR was in fact, not talking to KSH the Star which appeared in the press con, but KSH the human. So for KSH the Star to admit that he is also the same person as KSH the human, will be an outright lie. Case closed, your Honor. Because you cannot convict KSH the Star, because of what KSH the Human did or did not do, because he did not do what he did not do and did not done, have not and will not ever do, done well done, dinner.