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Nah I get what you mean. It would make the scene and the break up less tropy for sure. But I think it could make it hard to keep the scene short. Coz knowing the reason (evil dad) Fighter would not give up so easily. So the scene would be far longer and might drag. I believe the only reason Fighter agreed to the break up was coz he didn't know the reason but be believed it was bad enough to make Tutor miserable, and he didn't want that. If Tutor said F's dad is a dick so I want to break up, F would be like: you f kiddin me right? I just feel like it would be harder to build the scene IF Fighter knew.
But then... we all have different interpretations and expectations. I wouldn't mind Tutor saying Fighter about the dad, but I just think it would make it harder to write and film the scene hahaha it's more on the technical and less of the "emotional" side.

I'm spamming comment section, but I don't care lol I'm just fascinated the more I read people's interpretations of the events from 11th ep. Basically how I see it there are 3 types of people:
1. Writing sucks, they went full cliche "breaking coz of the parent", Tutor is an idiot and him not talking to Fighter and just giving up makes no sense. Basically Tutor sucks.
2. The break up made perfect sense. Tutor has had enough, hit the breaking point. He has no strength left to fight for anything. That's why he breaks up with Fighter. Awesome writing and perfectly in line with how the character was written so far.
3. The break up make sense. Tutor is a dumb ass but he is strong in what he is doing. He wants to take the whole hit of Fighter's dad shitty behavior himself and does not want to ruin Fighter's relationship with his dad and burden the guy he loves even a little bit. He did what he though was best.

Same show, same episode, same scene and yet we all see it in such a different light. Fun :)

Look at that, I have all that Tutor has, and still have suicidal thoughts. More often than not the personal happiness is not based on the external factors but the internal interpretation of them. As I said, from what was shown in the drama and from what Tutor said in the break up scene, he put way too much pressure on himself to be strong, perfect, helpful, mature. We saw him crying over the lost part time job, or when few people he was tutoring had to quit. How se cried but still said it will pass and he can get through it. How he did not ask ANY of the people around him for help. That's why I think he is not doing well emotionally. Coz in situations like that people not be building these thoughts up, knowing well that they have people around them willing to help, they would call for that help. But Tutor doesn't. For me it was clear that he is "the giver" that wants everyone around him to be happy but forgets about his own well being in the process. But everyone has their breaking point. And what happened after they came back from the beach trip was the breaking point. We can all interpret characters differently. I see how Tutor was not that strong person and I'm not the only one who thinks that. You can not see it and it's also fine.
That said, there is a reason everyone is always so surprised after someone's commit suicide and we keep hearing how they had amazing family, well paid job, supporting friends and there was not reason from them to do that.

You can have the most supporting family and no "big problems" in your life and still be emotionally broken and exhausted. Do I think he put a lot of pressure on himself which led to him breaking down like that: yes. Does not change the fact we could see throughout the drama how he was slowly breaking down and simply tired. You don't need to be slammed on the face with information and everything does not need to be explain with clear narration to see more in the character. We can see that he struggles admitting his weaknesses and always want to deal with all the problems himself.
Sure, if you just watch and do not analyze what you see, everyone will be just a puppet to progress the story. For me he is well written character and all his behaviors make sense.
I don't know how much of it was a good writing and how was just luck and accident, but the end result for me is: both Tutor and Fighter are well written and interesting characters.

I appreciate your view point. I see quite a few people saying Tutor should have just talked to Fighter and tell him everything. But it's not that easy. For me, it was quite obvious Tutor is not as strong as he presents himself. And that he is extremely giving person, always thinking about others well being rather than himself. He himself believe he is strong enough to deal with whatever will happen. They hinted how all the piling up obstacles are starting to be too much for him to handle. But since he always dealt with everything alone, he doesn't even know how to ask for help and say he might be overwhelmed. For me, with Tutor's personality, expecting him to face fighter's dad and talk openly with Fighter about it is close to asking depressed person to just be happy and maybe go for a walk.
What I want to say, for me the whole break up was perfectly in line with how both Tutor and Fighter's character were written and presented since day one. But we can all interpret it in a different way :)
If you are interested I wrote a (long lol) comment down below on how I see Tutor's behavior is ep 11.

Exactly, everything you said is correct. People saying "Tutor should just tell Fighter how he feels and about his meeting with the dad" is basically the same as saying to a depressed person: why won't you just be happy? It doesn't work like that.
As for Fighter and the preview, let me copy what I wrote in a comment below, how I still have trust it will not go bad way:

"In Fighter I put my trust and here is way:
Let's start with how misleading the teasers are. Remember how in the teaser of today's ep Hwahwa was shown as a total angry B? Well... she turned out to support the boiz and fangirl over them. We might get similar twist in the FighTor "problematic bed scene".
What's more: how selfless was Fighter during the break up. He was totally clueless. He has been ignored by Tutor for quite some time after all the promises they made. He had NO idea where the break up is coming from and yet he apologized to Tutor! He wasn't angry, he wasn't throwing a tantrum. He accepted Tutor's decision and kept the promise he made: he let his hand go. He know if he broke down if front of Tutor it would be even more painful for the boy he loves so much so he kept smiling. He did hide his pain just to make sure Tutor will suffer a little bit less. Up till now their WHOLE relationship was build in consent and assurance. I refuse to believe the writers will ruin it with the scene shown in preview.
The magic of editing is wild. I trust they were assholes and put the scene in the preview as a shock value, but it will play differently in a full context. I believe Fighter is a sweet potato and not human trash.
That's it. I am not willing to give Fighter up just yet.
But if I'm wrong... damn it will hurt even more."

So I still believe there is hope it will all turn out "unproblematic"

I believe with Tutor it's a bit different. His whole life was a "hard time" and he acted strong and tough for years... so when he found out he needs to fight for yet another part of his life and happiness, it was just too much.

I was honestly so annoyed with people hating on Tutor I wrote a whole essay about it lol
I feel like majority of people that started to dislike his character did not understood him at all from the beginning.

This happened with 2moons 2. The main couple and Phana (main dude) were more or less walking perfection. They talked and communicated with each other and were sweet and there was close to no drama between them, but rather around them... and people did say they were boring and liked the "more dramatic" side couples more.

I would understand the anger if this whole break up and what Tutor did was out of the character, but it was not. It's the breaking point for him, it fits in how he was written up till now and makes him that much more interesting characters with more layers.

IN THE DEFENSE OF TUTOR BREAKING UP WITH FIGHTER
People being annoyed and angry at Tutor and saying him breaking up with Fighter coz of his dad is lazy writing don't understand his character at all and it shows.

The boy is broken. Has been broken for years. Always being good friend, perfect student, understanding tutor, mature and excellent worker. Fighting for every little thing in his life and yet never wanting to burden others with his existence. How he needed the job but he always assured the people he was working for it's okay if they can't pay him now or have to fire him. Coz he understand everyone has it hard in life. And he can push through it. Coz he always did. And it's what expected from him.

So he finally had these few days that seems too good to be true. He didn't have to fight for anything, could relax, go and do what his feelings told him, being babied and taken care of by Fighter. How amazingly happy it was but also coming back from this trip... how terrifying. He right away started to worry again: how will people react, how he will face Hwahwa, what they will do with Fighter's dad. A few more bricks on that wall of the pressure he felt for years. So Fighter's dad clearly stating he is against him and Fighter was a breaking point. Yet another thing he will have to fight for. Why can't he have this one thing that bring him happiness? He is exhausted with being strong. He is exhausted. Everyone expecting him to be brave and fight. It seemed like it never crossed anyone's mind that it's hard on him. That's he is weak and needs help and support to. That he needs to be taken care of.

Even Fighter's gift, at first I thought it was amazingly cute how he said "Fighter does not mean me, it means you are fighter"... after episode 11 it seems tragic. Telling someone who was struggling with showing his weaknesses and always pushing forward even tho they were barely keeping it together and on the brink of breaking down, how strong they are is just sad. While at the moment it may seem to Tutor that someone sees his struggle and how hard it was for him, it's just yet another person seeing him as this strong mature guy who can deal with anything thrown his way. More high expectations from others, more pressure added. What Tutor should hear is not how strong he is, but that it's okay to be weak, to give up, to fail, to cry, to ask for help and not always be there for people you love/like, if it may harm you. It's okay not to be this perfect being that anyone can count on. It's okay to be flawed. But he didn't get that. What he got was: you are fighter.

I relate to Tutor extremely. Once you take that "I am strong, I can deal with anything, I am a good person" persona, it;s extremely hard to show any form of weaknesses. It's EXTREMELY hard to talk about your feelings and emotions. You can openly talk about bad events in your life, but it's drained from any emotional aspects. You just tell the facts, say how it made you stronger, how much you have learned, how it does not bother you anymore. You never admit how hard it was, how you wanted to scream for help but you just couldn't. Coz that's not who you are and that's not what people expect from you... and everyone has their own problems to deal with. How Fighter said Tutor should stop acting like he is in a soap opera I wanted to thrown my laptop out of the window. When you feel like you hard the whole world on your shoulders for years, that no one ever cared enough to see how weak you are, how much you struggle, the smallest thing can be too much. There were times when I cried in the morning because I could not find matching socks. Not being able to find matching socks felt like the world and destiny is against me. Why can't even such a small thing as finding socks be easy for me? The building pressure was at it's peak and these socks were just that one drop that made the building emotions overflow. For Tutor, it was Fighter's dad. It was that one thing that made him give up and break down.

So I'm sorry, but him finally breaking down makes sense and fits into how his character was written perfectly. Tutor is literally emotionally exhausted with his life, he is done. He has no strength left to fight for anything. I will protect this baby with all my heart. Both him and Fighter are in pain and victims of this messed up situation and how their lives treated them. No one should be blamed here.

In Fighter I put my trust and here is way:
Let's start with how misleading the teasers are. Remember how in the teaser of today's ep Hwahwa was shown as a total angry B? Well... she turned out to support the boiz and fangirl over them. We might get similar twist in the FighTor "problematic bed scene".
What's more: how selfless was Fighter during the break up. He was totally clueless. He has been ignored by Tutor for quite some time after all the promises they made. He had NO idea where the break up is coming from and yet he apologized to Tutor! He wasn't angry, he wasn't throwing a tantrum. He accepted Tutor's decision and kept the promise he made: he let his hand go. He know if he broke down if front of Tutor it would be even more painful for the boy he loves so much so he kept smiling. He did hide his pain just to make sure Tutor will suffer a little bit less. Up till now their WHOLE relationship was build in consent and assurance. I refuse to believe the writers will ruin it with the scene shown in preview.
The magic of editing is wild. I trust they were assholes and put the scene in the preview as a shock value, but it will play differently in a full context. I believe Fighter is a sweet potato and not human trash.
That's it. I am not willing to give Fighter up just yet.
But if I'm wrong... damn it will hurt even more.

From what I read on twitter so far from writers and production team... it will not be too bad. Also, I trust Fighter and how his character was written. He literally apologized to Tutor as Tutor was breaking up with him. He had no idea why this was happening but he was still the one apologizing. He was smiling while trying not to cry because he knew it would break Tutor. Such a selfless man would never do the shit they shown in the preview.
I mean in the preview of ep 11 they made Hwahwa look like a bi**** but in the ep itself she was supporting and fangirling over them.
anyway, I have a faith !

I am not here for what they shown in teaser with fighter forcing himself on Tutor. He better stop 0.0001 second after what we saw in the teaser or I will be flipping. It's SO out of the character for him.

Instead of being sad we need to wait for new eps and don't really know what to expect from the series now, let's all appreciate and support the cast, coz they are even more unsure and disappointed in the current scenerio happening.

So to brighten our day, I will share yet another poem for Zee lol

The adorable boi with the brightest smile
Haven't seen such a beauty for quite a while
The innocent and love hidden in his eyes
He just blinks, nothing else and my heart dies

I've been living on this planet, existing, nothing more
without knowing Zee earlier - just crying on the floor
Years without happiness and the purest guy
He shines brighter than all the stars on the sky.

Now that I watch him play Fighter on the screen
I start to understand what "true talent" really means
Looking at his photos might be my daily routine
One smile from him and my soul is clean.

I am 100% whipped for the boy, guilty of charge.

"Why R U always so Cute and Handsome??" well that sums it up pretty well haha
I have to say I'm amazed with this guy. He is such a pure and talented soul and has one of the most genuine smiles I have seen. The more I zee him in videos outside of his role as Figher, the more I appreciate him.

The behind the scenes episode was cute and I got inspired to write another "poem" showing my love for Zee, enjoy (if you can lol)

"Heartbroken but happy"

When Zee said: I love you Saint
My own feelings had to be restrained...
It pains me - this one sided crush
But what can I do, when Saint makes him blush?
As long as the cute boy named Saint treats him well
I won't complain that this unrequited love feels like hell.

while I agree that some people are far too negative about the current situation I also don't think it's bad to criticize shows and point out their flaws. If the producers/writers/directors of the shows won't hear from fans what they don't like and what would be good to improve, they won't do it. If we want better shows in the future, we need to voice our opinions. It's their job, not a hobby. They don't produce shows for free. They earn money because we watch them, so we have the right to say if something was off.
While current situation with COVID-19 is bad and we should not blame the problems the show is facing now coz of it, it's also true that even before it happened, FighTor was "treated" better than Zon and Saifah (and I am HUGE Fightor fan). There are no excuses for the previous episodes. If they didn't want to give enough screen time to them, they should not promote them as one of the main couple from the start.

:surprised pikachu face:
damn Phukong.

Basically Fighter is scared potato and Tutor is Satan himself lol
It was shown quite a few times that Tutor likes to tease Fighter and when Fighter wants to kiss him and continue, Tutor stops him. I cannot really blame Fighter for being confused at times.
Fighter is REALLY soft and it's quite obvious it's Tutor being in control all the time.