themarchioness

If you enjoy school/youth dramas and want something light and fluffy (i.e., a total contrast to this drama's angst), I highly recommend "When I Fly Towards You."

Speaking of not finding the mom capable of something... I know this is incredibly random but every time the drama shows us the FL's parents' home with the pool, I don't know why but it cracks me up. I just keep wondering who uses it? It's hard to imagine anyone in that family being able to take time to relax and enjoy such a leisurely pursuit! Moreover, the mom seems like she'd be too proper for a bathing suit. 😝

Haha, and yet it's probably tears over the fact that things aren't going her way (from the preview, it looks like she may be reacting to XQ smashing their family photo after she learns what her mother did to SY in the past and confronts her parents about it).

Sticker of Pan Pan. I’m assuming a reference to the mascot of 1990 Asian Games: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Asian_Games

It would be weirder if anyone liked her 🤣

JY: Do you like her? Tell me!
SY: YES, I like her!

[Flash back to the beginning of the scene]

JY: I was talking with XQ. Do you think she likes me?
SY: You?
JY: Yeah, do you think she's seen how I work, and I've managed to captivate her? A hardworking man is the best way to captivate a person.
SY: I want to puke.
JY: Don't think about puking. Don't the two of you know each other? I'm trying to get information out of you.
SY: We're not familiar. Why are you trying to learn information about her?
JY: If she really likes me, then I'll pursue her.
SY: She doesn't like you!
JY: Did she tell you that?
SY: She doesn't need to say for me to know. Are you familiar with her to be standing here saying these ridiculous things?
JY: Are you familiar with her?
SY: I.... in any event, I'm more familiar with her than you. [Starts to walk away] If you like her, don't even think about having any ideas.
JY: You like her, don't you? [Chasing after SY] If you like her, you should tell her.
SY: YES, I like her! More than you can see, more than you can think of, more than you can understand, I like her!
JY: [Laughs] I forced the truth out of you. I finally managed one over you!
[SY kicks out at JY]
SY: Tonight, don't [think about] returning to the dorm.

< Secret >
< Good-bye >

Omg, that was great! So hilarious. Yes, that's exactly what JY does - gets SY to admit he likes XQ. I'll translate it below (under a spoiler cut). I can't wait to see this scene in the drama!!

No, WDX is a member of the main cast. Specifically, he’s listed as “Special appearance,” but that doesn’t mean special in the sense that he’s a guest role. It’s more like the significance of his character and the actor is more than one of the regular cast members but also not a leading role.

Another example if you’ve ever watched Go Ahead - Steven Zhang was an integral part of the story/cast, he was part of the main threesome, but he was also listed as a Special appearance in the credits. You can think of it as giving an actor/role importance but also not taking away from the leads’ significance. Cnetz get heated over casting orders, etc, so I think this is also the dramas’ ways of trying to deal with that.

Haha, yeah, no, I get you. It is a little odd. Maybe we can pretend they’re doing a refresher course or something. After all, how can we get a shirtless YY? 🤣😝

I had the same initial thought and then my second thought was: ahh --- drama logic, lol. I mean, how else will they bring the leads together? For example, since they couldn't work the story in a way to have the FL join the mountain rescue mission, they made it so he had to call her! :P

I know. I’ve read the book. But for the drama, it has significance which is why I ask the question. ;-)

The brother is not adopted. He is the parents’ biological child. The FL is not blood related to that family; they took her in because the dads were friends.

Random question. Does we think SY will ever find his lighter with XQ's picture? After losing it initially, I recall him searching for it another time or two, but nothing since. It just occurred to me that we haven't seen/heard mention of the lighter in a while. Part of me would like to think the timing of the loss is symbolic -- he loses it when XQ returns in person, and no longer needs to carry the lighter around when can have the real deal instead. But given that it also looked like that lighter helped to save his life at one point, I can see it popping up again later when that portion of SY's past is revealed to XQ. He'd still have to find the lighter first, though!

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Agreed - I feel the same way. You can just sense that energy between the two men; it's like they instinctively recognize the competition in each other.

Yes!! I also thought it was very telling where XQ cut MYC off in that conversation. I can't remember the exact words without rewatching, but as I recall he was asking her whether she was really so willing to give up everything to be with SY and if she was willing to do that, then why couldn't "we" and she stopped him at that point. It felt like she stopped him there on purpose because she knew, if she didn't, he would've gone on to ask - then why can't we be together? Especially since it was at that point that the drama transitioned to the past where we very clearly saw how the adopted mom's decision to formalize the adoption was a direct attempt to ensure that nothing would ever happen between the two children.

In the book, she was 10 years old when she was adopted. Drama doesn't really say, as far as I can recall.

Regarding Ep 13 and the conversation between SY and MYC outside the hospital... did anyone else pick up vibes that SY was calling MYC out on his true feelings for XQ? I was discussing that scene with a friend earlier and their only takeaway was that we now have definitive proof that SY knows XQ is adopted, but I actually think his comments involved more than that - it was just subtle and maybe hard to pick up on.

Specifically, it's the part where SY asks MYC what right he has to decide for XQ noting that if MYC had the power to decide, he wouldn't be standing before him (SY). I felt like through this comment, SY was reminding MYC that he has no sway, and no "right" to XQ, because if he did, then like he (SY) said, they wouldn't even need to have their conversation.

MYC answers that it's because he's her brother and a family member she can never forsake, and SY sarcastically responds, "So you know you're her brother. But your care and possessiveness over your sister is a little excessive. Even as a family member, you should have a sense of propriety." To me, he's pointing out that MYC is not behaving like a normal brother would. Which is why he then makes an "oh right," kind of sound and adds, "I forgot. You're not her real brother."

Coming on the heels of an observation that MYC is not behaving like a normal brother, and highlighting that they're not blood siblings, I feel like SY is indirectly pointing out that he knows MYC is really behaving in this way because he has romantic feelings for XQ. Especially since SY then goes on to call MYC a hypocrite who doesn't dare face himself -- it's like he's trying to get MCY to own up to his real feelings and acknowledge what this confrontation is *really* about -- it's not really an older brother exerting his protective right, but really, a would-be competitor calling out another competitor.

Or am I reading into this convo too much because I've read the book? ;-)

It is because of her. In the book she asks him about that, and he indirectly admits to it by responding, "What do you think?"

I agree. I don't find MYC's feelings for XQ to be totally weird in that they were old enough when she joined his family for them to know they were not siblings. In a different family, under different circumstances, maybe it would've followed that they grew up together and fell in love with each other at the same time. But really for MYC, I think it's about what he said to her when he was likening himself to the butterfly. She was like a lifeline when she entered his family and his life. His 'love' for her is based more out of a need and at grasping at straws. That's why in a lot of ways, despite his creepy overly protective ways, I pity him in the same way that I pity her. You have two children, raised under the same roof, one calls herself a beast raised by a trainer and the other a butterfly dissected to death while still alive. Says a lot.