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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 26, 2024
Thanks for sharing your detailed insights. I don't actually have a problem with the ending in and of itself, just…
They should have followed the ending of the novel. That kind of ending would be so awesome. But I guess they decided against it since they want that last moment of Wei Zhou telling Jiang Ci about how she is free now and his gift to her at the old house. My goodness, the moment that she told him regarding all the plants before she poisoned him, I knew they gonna make him do all those things later (including the plant near the door! 😢). This drama did not have one wasted scene -- all scenes has meanings and purpose. And I find it truly heartbreaking and melancholic on how Wei Zhou is the one who make Jiang Ci join this cruel political fight unwillingly when he stabbed her on the tree and at the end, he is the one who set her free again. This kind of thing really hits me deeply.

Ahh I see, thats what you meant! Thanks for giving the name of it since I would never able to explain that kind of script technique! I really learn new thing today, thank you. And you are absolutely right. There so many such lines in the drama. Like when he said about his 9 cats lives and she told him he is not allowed to have less or part where she said being his fake 'wife' doesnt mean it cant be real or when she drew him the phoenix on his mask which indirectly ask him not to burn and turn to ash. But one sentence that may haunt me forever when she finally said it out loud to him 'I dont want the swing, I want you' 😭 They have so much tacit understanding with each other thats why most things are left unspoken -- I guess most of this is lost in translation to some viewers. Like she didnt have to hear from anyone to know the reasons why he didnt open the gate as she knew he must have his reasons. There are so many instances in the drama where the writer show their understanding towards each other is like soulmate kind of level. Like the part where he fainted after the war and woke up on the bed and her feeding him the orange -- so much things are said in that scene alone despite no words are spoken between them. The way the Director focus on his trembling hands and the way Jiang Ci cries silently beside him - it is to show she knew he was poisoned but she didnt say it since she knew he doesnt want her to know. 😢 I'm so marveled at how the writer and director conveyed that scene. It made it more heartbreaking and devastating somehow.

I cant read MDL comments! 😂 Since I always felt like we are watching a completely different drama lol. So I always just posted by views after each episodes to reach like minded viewers and refuse to read anything else for my sanity lol.

And I actually on my rewatch right now and I notice more subtle things from the script like when Pei Yan made Jiang Ci stabbed him. On the surface, it looks like he is only using her as a pawn for his political ambition but he is actually killing 3 birds with that one simple act -- satisfying both the Emperor and his mother and also protecting Jiang Ci so that his mother will lay off her and proved to his mother that she is after all just a pawn to him -- like their conversation just before the boat scene. I find it really brilliant and the script, never told us out right about Pei Yan's motives even using internal monologue -- they trust us to make that connection ourselves.
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On Love and Crown Oct 26, 2024
Okay, for those who read the original IP, how bad is the misunderstandings in the novel? 😂 I dont mind if its a good misunderstandings like in The Glory of Tang Dynasty (due to brilliant scheme of the villains) but I cant the dumb ones where it could solve with simple communication with each other. It doesnt help that the wrap up video for this drama is like angst galore for 2.5 minutes lol.

I actually feel very anxious with this drama since this is the drama that RJL forced to make by Huanrui before his contract expires -- he has been taking outside projects for years starting with the success of Under the Power in 2020. And Huanrui dramas, if anyone familiar with it is usually a hot mess. I have faith with RJL's scripts selections in general since he is known to take quality scripts but I'm afraid that this drama going to break that streak.

So if anyone can say anything positive about the drama, it is greatly appreciated lol.
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Replying to AniMangaSensei Oct 26, 2024
This drama will end just like Love of Nirvana.. this is Allen's signature...
He only has 4 sad endings for 20 of his dramas. He did not have sad ending signature.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 26, 2024
Thanks for sharing your detailed insights. I don't actually have a problem with the ending in and of itself, just…
I totally get what you meant actually. I think the fault is with how the Director shot the scene since it looks like he had a choice to escape when he didnt actually. I dont think thats intention of either the director or the scriptwriter. He closed the only door out and he needs to hold the Emperor with the chains so he wont escape thus it doesn't give him much choice because of that. Do you mind telling me the ending of the novel? When you said he really had no choice as the Emperor could escape down, you mean escape down the tunnel made by Wuxia's dad at the temple?

And BTW, I'm most admire and curious at the same time when you wrote how We Zhou communicate with Jiang Ci with 'dialogue within their dialogue.' Do you mind elaborating that? It seemed like I learnt something new today by reading your wonderful review. :D
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Replying to tatski24 Oct 26, 2024
a very thorough brilliant review!!! thank you..others really didn't get the message of this story & was not satisfied…
Thank you for your kind words. 🤗 I guess since the story always 'show' rather than 'tell', a lot of things are lost in translation for some people. But all well written dramas supposed to be like this which they trust their audiences instead of spoon feeding us with every little information. It makes the whole watching experience more rewarding since audiences can make their own judgements regarding the story and the characters' motivations & actions.

And yes! Ren Jialun is great at doing those micro expressions and those longing and yearning looks that is why I'm such a big fan. Every gestures and stare between Wei Zhou and Jiang Ci tugs my heart strings and this is why I love to watch Asian dramas --the little gestures, the longing, the what ifs and the selfless act of love -- it is more rewarding than any kissing scenes or sex scenes. It made me blush just by the couple brushing their hands against each other, their stealing glances, those tender looks -- so much are spoken with little words and actions -- its fantastic -- the portrayal of how people falls in love at its finest. ❤️
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PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 26, 2024
As usual, I always love to read your reviews and agree with the depth and complexity that the drama possessed that made it one of the best costume dramas that I've seen this year. What I love the most about this drama is that it trust the audiences and doesn't spoon feed us. All of this makes the viewing experience more rewarding.

However, I disagree with your view on the ending since I dont see it as dumb and unnecessary or he really have a choice. This is one of example of a 'good' sad ending since it is not forced, illogical but made complete sense -- especially once you realized who is the real big evil in the whole story.

At the start of the drama, we see how he is ready to burn like a phoenix (Wei Zhou is based on real historical person; Phoenix Emperor Murong Chong) for the mission to free his people. But upon meeting Jiang Ci, he slowly change this perception esp during the Yueluo arc where he healed and learnt that hatred will lead to nowhere. And after that, we see all his actions go towards wanting to survive and wanting to get through this with little casualty as possible. He is still so restrained when it comes to Jiang Ci since he didnt know whether he will survive the mission but he did promise her he will be back, so it was always his attempt to comes back unharmed. And I love how the scriptwriter really push this narrative with him even letting go of his personal/selfish desire to clear up his father's name for the safety of him and his people so everyone would come out safe and alive. He really tried everything to come out unharmed -- even bow to the man who killed his entire family until the Emperor pushed him to the point where he didnt even have a choice but to use his life for his people & Jiang Ci's safety.

If this is a XianXia drama, I would believe he can escaped but the explosion already started when the Emperor revealed his plan and he needs to keep the Emperor chained and stay in the building. Plus, another aspect which is the poison which make him weaker that is why all the guards are confident they can contain him in the building. If he cant escape the slave arena which is an open space, I doubt he can escape a building which has a roof on it within seconds. He closed the only door out and he needs to hold the Emperor so he doesn't run away. At least, they made it logical and I appreciate that. And as much as it breaks my heart, I cant hate that ending though I wish fate is kinder to him. :(

Also, I find Ren Jialun extremely versatile as an actor. He is actually one of the actors who actually took many different kind of roles in his career from cold, aloof, ruthless, socially awkward, happy go lucky, sarcastic, bubbly and even naive. Its the reason why I'm a big fan aside from the fact he always choses excellent scripts for his dramas. :D
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Replying to Justtwoofus Oct 13, 2024
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Seriously that's the kind of ending I want 😅❤️
Or you can make your own ending that he comes to see her after a few years has passed as its all part of the plan to fake his death. So, she really see him at the end and not just in her imagination. 😂🤭

But tbh, the ending is great. Sad but great. To achieve great things, it indeed need big sacrifices. But I like how he really fought to be alive right until the end -- compromising even his own wish to clear his Father's name just for the peace of his people. I just wish fate is kinder to him.
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Replying to Justtwoofus Oct 13, 2024
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Seriously that's the kind of ending I want 😅❤️
We all want the same ending. ❤️

It is such a great drama! My fave this year without a doubt. So many layers in the script that made the journey so worthwhile. :D
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Justtwoofus Oct 13, 2024
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lol the happy ending that they and we deserved! ❤️😂
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Replying to Alida3 Oct 10, 2024
Title Love of Nirvana Spoiler
Yes 😢 His story is such a sad story and I’ve never wished for another drama to have a HE as much as with…
I actually expecting a happy ending for this one actually. I thought they should at least give us an open ending? But they didnt even give us that. 😢 It was a definite sad ending. :((((

But at least he really fight for his life until the Emperor didnt really give him a chance. It was sad but it wasnt illogical or forced, so I cant really hate that ending. I just wish the fate is nicer to him.
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On Love of Nirvana Oct 10, 2024
I just rewatched both hugs that Jiang Ci gave Wei Zhou in the last 6 episodes of the drama again -- one time when she sees him at the army camp and another one where she rescue him. Both time, he wasn't expecting for her to come thus his shocked face and his body froze. Thinking back, he actually never expecting anything from life or anyone -- since life has always been a disappointment for him but she always surprise him and show him that life is actually beautiful and meaningful -- and that makes him see life differently and that makes him wanting to live as well. 😢
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Replying to Shubham Oct 6, 2024
Bro they are ML and FL so no matter what she will choose him over SML it's simple as that . There is no logic…
Try to read what is Stockholm Syndrome really means. The bond was form during the captive. None of it happened in this case. She only fall for him when she knew that he is actually a good guy.
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Replying to Shubham Oct 6, 2024
Bro they are ML and FL so no matter what she will choose him over SML it's simple as that . There is no logic…
He wanted to kill her when they were enemies. He is from Yueluo, a slave nation while the FL in from Liang, a nation that enslaved his people. She is a Liang woman who assist a Liang Officer who enslaved his people. What you do when you met people who kept messing on your plan? You kill them esp when you're an assassins. Then later, she started to see him beyond his 'mask' and knew he was fighting for the freedom of his people -- they were the same people of the opposite sites. Thats when the relationship started to shift.

If you said it was Stockholm Syndrome, then you obviously didn't understand the drama. Never once they romanticize the abuse. She never fall for him due to the abuse, in fact, it took a long time for her to like him. She only fall for him when she knew about his backstories and why he is like that. There is no connection between the abuse and when she falls for him.

Stockholm Syndrome would like what FL in The Blue Whisper trying to do at the ML. When he held captive, she become nice to him in order to fish informations from him. Thus, they are making a bond with each other due to that. In this drama, none of that thing happened.
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Replying to Shubham Oct 5, 2024
Bro they are ML and FL so no matter what she will choose him over SML it's simple as that . There is no logic…
It didnt happen that way in this drama. If you watch properly right from the start, you will aware what actually the story wanted to tell. There is a reason why she warms up to Wei Zhou and there is a reason why she started to distance herself from Pei Yan. It is being told in the most subtle ways.
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Replying to SherrieSangha Oct 5, 2024
I am now on ep 18 and i can't figure out why the fl has totally forgotten how the ml (allen ren) tried to kill…
She didnt forget, in fact she even bought it up again in Episode 39. It just that, when he did those thing to her, they were enemies. He is an assassins and she ruined his mission again & again, so it made complete sense why he wanted to kill her. Later, she learn about his past and knew he is actually a good man. There are so many occasions that shows this and she finally see him without his 'mask' beyond all the ruthless act he put in front of her.

While Pei Yan, despite he is a nice guy, has been using her since the beginning to catch Wei Zhou. Many of the times he put her in danger when he delay her treatment or when he used her as bait. The problem with Jiang Ci is that she is a very clever girl so even if no one tell her this, she knew Pei Yan's intention right from the start. There is even a conversation where she told Pei Yan that she knew and she wont blame him. Did you happen to miss that scene? If you cant see it, perhaps you need to see it from her perspective.
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Replying to Reny Oct 5, 2024
Title Love of Nirvana Spoiler
I really apreciate Landi Li for her acting..especially in that scene..how she tremble when she said the word
Gosh she is amazing. She really embodied Jiang Ci to the core with how tight she always hug Wei Zhou. And her tears is endless. She was so strong yet so lovely at the same time.

The scene where she pick up the hairpin, a piece of his cloth and his burnt ashes from the explosive site will haunt me forever. 😭😭😭
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On Love of Nirvana Oct 5, 2024
This drama has so many thoughtful conversations or sometimes conversations talked in riddles which is amazing. But the sentences that I dont think I will get over would be when Jiang Ci told Wei Zhou;

'I dont want the swing, I want you!' 😢
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Replying to tsuyoi_hikari Oct 4, 2024
Person Ren Jia Lun Spoiler
Definitely not true.He has 16 dramas where he is the ML.10 dramas with Happy Endings (With 2 dramas; Forever and…
I dont think The Blue Whisper got messed up with the editing. They purposely made that ending to evoke discussion online. They also changed the novel ending to suit more to the 'freedom' theme that the drama has since the beginning -- that FL has to sacrifice her freedom again for the greater good. But they were reunited at the end and she grew a mermaid tail due to his pearl. I thought its a very creative and it was an impactful ending. I like it very much though I wish it was longer. :D
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Replying to Nathan Oct 4, 2024
Review Love of Nirvana Spoiler
A great review! I'm one of those who secretly waited for your comments in this drama 'cause they're just so lovely…
Thank you so much! Thats very sweet of you. 🤗

I've finished last night and I'm heartbroken. So heartbroken. I actually need to take a break since it really affect me thats why I'm only online now. I watched mostly all RJL's dramas and I know out of all his 16 dramas, sad endings are only like 4. But after finishing this drama, I was like 'You live up to your name!' 😂😂 since I was really taken aback with the sad ending. I really thought we gonna get a happy one with all the foreshadowing that we got throughout the drama. But tbh, I cant even mad as the sad ending wasn't forced, illogical, or didnt make sense. But I wish fate is kinder to him. 😢

My thoughts of the last 6 episodes is that they are done so brilliantly. I was having so much fun that I dont even realized that I actually watched 8 episodes yesterday. It is so action packed, tugged your heart string and most of all, the satisfaction of watching how everything unfold towards the end.

They've done basically everything right-- from Wei Zhou and Pei Yan working together, Wei Zhou & Jiang Ci's relationship and how they are each other's pillars, Pei Yan letting go of his obsession, the political scheming, the plot twist, the supporting casts got their own moments, and most of all how they tackled the theme of revenge, freedom, prejudice, filial piety, doing the righteous things for the people and how Wei Zhou got back the freedom of his people.

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Its actually very rare to find someone who watch Destiny of White Snake. 😀 I actually really enjoy that drama since RJL's role is sarcastic as hell and Yang Zi as Yao Yao is truly fantastic character wise. Very rare for someone to combine being gentle and strong at the same time but Yao Yao is that. Just like Jiang Ci, she indeed kick-ass. And I actually really like the ending of the drama -- how they first tease us that its a sad ending (that meeting him is only in her mind) but then the bridge scene happened where he appears for real. I love unique ending like that.
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