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I dropped a c-drama just a few mins back. The FL is either underage or mentally ill. That's the only reason I can think of. No normal grown up woman of any country behaves like these actresses are made to. It's not as if other countries don't make dramas catering to kids or young teens.
Like u said, maybe the audience wants to see women behaving in this manner. And this is why I don't recommend most of the c-dramas to my friends.
I'm used to BBC, ITV dramas so it's a cultural shock seeing how women are presented here and fans love it :/

patriarchy and govt wanting to fool the public by distracting them, enforcing censorship is different. let's not go into politics coz china is doing some very questionable things but no one wants to talk about it. I recently started watching 'keep running' and they present such a beautiful image of china, I was mesmerized lol

that's sad. if she ever has a child, I hope she remembers this lesson.

I have never seen her before so I can't judge. I already love Vengo a lot so I might be biased that's why I didn't talk about him lol

This is why when I don't like a drama I first look around the comments section to find out if it's full of silly fans or sane normal ones. But if it's a lakorn or baby voiced FL drama then I put out my honest feelings lol

FL appears to be mentally weak, that voice doesn't help matters. Dropped it.

When I 1st heard a FL talk like that I thought it was her real voice, then I heard her for real. Then I watched more c-dramas I found out it's common to make grown up women walk n talk like kids. Wonder what kind of perverts like this...

for china the old man does want to rule as long as he lives so has to order them to live like he wants them to. they don't like to acknowledge diversity so it's understandable. some day I'd like to see a c-drama cast a black actor or someone from their minority community. Maybe they have and I haven't come across one...

covid did bring drastic changes everywhere. for my friend it hasn't been gud, in order to escape their dictatorship she has moved to another city, her elder sis actually moved to another country and hasn't come back for years now!!
I feel very bad coz I'm losing my friend, I can see the changes in her, she has made some bad friends and no matter how much I've tried to talk to her she isn't changing. her parents didn't learn any lessons like our ML

it was just once when they mentioned her age, isn't it? Back then I didn't know her age so I was like is it just me or does she look older? then I checked her MDL page.
it's mostly male actors who try to grab younger roles or younger actresses in order to keep their young image. some succeed, some don't.

my 1st priority is acting, story then cgi. LP scores in all. It's the FL who is annoying me. Hopefully from tomorrow onwards she'll change coz out of 40 they've already aired 22!! I think by the end I'll recommend it to you coz it's not bad. Let's see...

I might like it too if my favs act in one and it's well written though it seems they have moved on to mature stuff. I can't get serious when they have baby voiced FLs. Hopefully my fav actors would never work in such a production lol

let's agree to disagree. today they censor something u don't like, tomorrow they'll censor something u can't live without. the moment we give control to someone else we're bound to suffer. thr was a time when Lady Chatterley was banned, china and some backward countries can't digest the lgbtq community...

my friend still holds a grudge against her parents. she ws gud in studies but coz it was forced on her, she stopped paying attention in class. I remember how we would meet every morning then get separate coz I would go for science classes while she dragged herself to her class... education, marriage these r some things elders try to force it on us pretending it's for our own gud. if there's a valid reason tell your child about it.

I hope 'Outsider' doesn't mention she is in her 20s again coz this is a make believe world and she cannot make me believe it. But the character is well written n she is good so I might let it pass :P

LP started with a bang. The acting was great especially XZ, cgi fab, I didn't even hate the FL. But lately I just can't digest the FL. Her voice, her actions, her decisions they all piss me off.
We know why the ML is pushing her away, she doesn't. So when she keeps clinging to him, doesn't care for long if a loved one gets beaten up coz of her actions, I just roll my eyes waiting for her to 'grow up'

half of the drama is done and she is still a child. thr was a time jump of 2yrs and yet no character development. I won't write this on the drama page coz I saw many blind fans who r branding every one with a different pov as a hater lol

We all romanticize even problematic things when we are young coz that's what we see in movies. the drama tropes I used to enjoy till a few years back seem so creepy now lol

I've seen my female seniors make mistakes in life, marriage, career. That taught me. My parents never forced me to do anything, we always discuss and the last decision is mine while my best friend was literally forced by her parents to study commerce even though she wanted to take up science.

so true. this is why writers have a bigger responsibility to not glorify the bad stuff. movies/dramas r a huge influence, no matter how much some ppl try to deny it. this is why govts want to control what can be shown n what not.

this time I fell in double trap, I'm following 'outsider' and 'longest promise'. while Outsider makes me happy, LP makes me mad coz of the FL. it gets balanced lol

ikr! I was shocked to read comments that this drama was childish, I'm like r these ppl on the wrong page? coz the FL is no way childish lol
we know which dramas actually have baby voiced FLs or young boys pretending to be a cold mean CEO.
I never trust MDL's rating, if a drama here shows 7 then most of the times it means 3 :P

IKR!! the things dramas teach us lol

it's still the minority. thr r many traditions women pretend they have changed and yet remained chained. I'll give 2 examples, adding husband's surname to your own one without removing the maiden to show how progressive one is. in the end it's just the woman changing.
I know a female CEO of a very big company, who is still expected to get home and 'take care' of her husband. And she is proud that she is so hard working and can multi-task without realizing how wrong it is.

also thr r not just men but women who gossip about women who break rules. as long as we don't change for ourselves n other women nothing's gonna change. u also need gud strong men who don't feel insecure in front of an equally strong woman.

I should have waited for all these epi to get uploaded, can't wait to see what the FL does next coz so far I have loved her so much!

same about Japan for me, I also found out how even mental issues r brushed under the carpet and I was shocked.
exactly! these countries have amazing places to visit. same for china, my friend visited china a few yrs back but before getting there he was looking for VPN to be able to open sites, he was getting lectures on how to behave, to not say anything against the govt etc.
every country has issues, some more than the others...

thr r all kinds, when I was young I thought everyone had a happy marriage. then u hear things, watch movies/dramas and learn. thr r couples who r in an open marriage which again makes no sense to me.
thr r also those who are not straight but either r forced to marry or marry to pretend that they r 'normal' coz we know homophobia is everywhere.

we still live in a patriarchal society, no matter how much women empowerment has happened. so at the eod it's the woman who either raises in status or falls down depending on the status of the guy.

and if she hates golf then let her be. but women like that other girl will claim that it'll separate the couple. u don't need to cling to ur partner all the time. it's healthy to have different hobbies and interests. try it out but don't force yourself and it goes for both of them. only mature couples can stay together even if they don't share every likes/dislikes.

don't watch any lakorn. my friend loves them and calls it entertainment. they just increase my anger n BP hahahha

I don't believe in censorship where someone else decides what adults should watch or read. Every govt finds an excuse to tell its own voters that they aren't mentally capable of making that decision. Today it's censorship on art, next they might tell women what to wear or not to step out of the house...

thr r many who get forced by their own parents into a relationship. I know a girl who in true drama style was married off into a family coz of business purposes. I don't need to tell u, it didn't end well..
Stay single or get someone only if you want it, not coz others are doing it as well or 'who will take care of me in old age'.
like u said there's no guarantee.
exactly!! don't we see it around us, fake couples showing off their love when in reality there's nothing

I'm pretty sure some scenes were removed coz we were suddenly shown their 1st kissing scene, which too got chopped off -_-
these 2 need to sit down n talk. the ML takes things lightly or for granted. and the FL is always made to feel that she has to climb up to his status in order to get accepted by his friends which can exhaust any sane person. one can't keep ignoring the noise...

this year thai BLs have been a miss, I'm really struggling :/
it's so open that their brains fall out. I really don't understand why ppl get in a relationship if they have to cheat. Stay single n then sleep around. Sorry if any child is reading this(though what is a child doing on this site lol)
again, instead of censorship, the lakorns should show how cheating, abuse, r*pe is not good instead of glorifying it.

I skipped and fast forwarded a lakorn whr the ML was forcibly married to the FL, he was always a playboy and kept at it even after marriage. She stayed by his side, then at last left him. In the 2nd last epi he loses everything, women don't want him so he is sad n says sorry to her. Last epi - FL takes him back coz he took a bullet for her!!

those ppl in power think that if straight ppl watch BLs they will 'become gay', if ppl watch leads getting married n making babies they will do the same lol

it's the little things that start piling up, we may ignore it ourself but when a fight happens or we are in a bad mood then all of it comes back. it's human nature!

exactly! n u feel left out, u feel as if your partner doesn't find u fit enough to share things that everyone else knows. and it's embarrassing and insulting when a 3rd person tells u especially when that person has been trying to get between you two.

yes when the bros get together, it's a riot. it doesn't feel fake/ acting but really how siblings are. the new one is so nice, he had enough sense to tell the ML about ping pong. the ML instantly made plans with her but he should have learnt that thr is a communication gap between them.

yes it is. and it's disgusting. and I'm not sorry to point out how they portray 'slaves' and women as equal. r*pe is shown as normal, the victim eventually falls for the criminal and they have a happy ending. it's just rotten how adultery, having another family is normal. my friend told me that ppl protested against r*pe stories but I can see the writers almost always manage to create toxic MLs who seldom have a character development, or women who keep scheming or screaming LOL

I'm actually not giving any serious thoughts about 'no marriage' coz it's a c-drama, the censors would never allow a drama especially now where the leads don't marry or have kids. So in the end they will marry. If only they had the freedom to show single men and women living their life as they want...

that's where he is wrong, he just assumes things, keeps her in the dark thinking it's not a big deal. he is not a teenager with no life experience. someone at his level should know that communication is necessary all the time, it's the basic rule every professional knows. maybe the writer was told to put in the usual 'other girl problem' coz ppl like to see it lol

I just love both the leads' younger siblings. gud casting n acting by them.

I watch thai lakorns coz my friend keeps insisting. You will stop trusting people and love if u watch even 2 lakorns.
If 'outsider' was a lakorn then the ML would have slept with the other girl when he was drunk. Then either everyone would hide this from the FL or the other girl would have taken pics and sent it to the FL. Then the breakup but in the last epi FL would suddenly forgive n forget everything.
When I compare this drama to other c-dramas or lakorns, I keep giving it more points LOL

It's clear that he thought he was doing nothing wrong. He is in love with her and finds it comfy to not change the status. He is willing to let the world know that she is his gf. He loves her parents and they fill up the void in his life.
What he did wrong was to assume that she will accept his decision about marriage.

He is used to people agreeing with him coz of his power and status. He took it lightly when the FL wasn't pleased by the trip incident coz she quickly moved on from it.
For a CEO he can be quite clueless. His friends mentioned his marriage in front of his gf, FL clearly voiced her feelings about the other girl, how could he think it was not serious?!
Most of the times it's the youngest bro who has more sense, it's as if the youngest one is more serious about not losing his gf.

I won't blame the other girl much coz ppl around her including the ML keep giving her hope and encouragement. If the ML would have taken the FL's words seriously and drawn a line between himself n the girl, things wouldn't have come this far.

It has become common in countries like Korea for ppl to not marry mainly coz of financial issues, it's no secret. But there are still ppl out there who want to commit and announce to the world that they r not single anymore.
Marriage doesn't guarantee that your spouse wouldn't cheat but at least 'well meaning' friends and family won't keep trying to matchmake. Unless they are uncouth lol

I'm amazed how well written this drama is. I was fed up of childish FLs and young boys pretending to be a CEO.

It was wrong of him to hide that he didn't want to marry her. Yes there are people nowadays who don't want to marry but most people still date with the intention to marry. He should have made it clear to her before she got serious with him. I'm amazed at how the FL still stayed by his side.
I totally am with you on the crying bit. If a girl doesn't truly love the guy then it wouldn't matter to her. I might have had tears then and there coz it was a big blow.

I didn't mind when the ML went with that other girl for business coz it was work. Though he could have called her to know what was going on. No one's that busy.
But I choked when she rushed to the piano recital and saw him like that. He clearly learnt no lesson from the trip and thought it was not a big deal and she would come back running in his arms.

He didn't care if she would be embarrassed in front of his friends when the FL wouldn't be able to golf, then he didn't care how she would feel when everyone read he was supposedly going to marry another girl. But I loved when the FL found out he had been secretly sending gifts to her parents.

ML claimed that the other girl was no threat but after this episode if he still keeps her around him, in the name of business, then he is not worth it. Such men become worse as time marches on coz they start thinking that their gf/wife will accept even more than this.

I seriously can't wait for the movie. So many bts vids are making me curious as hell. Hope it's a good movie coz so far Yibo has made amazing choices!!

I'm so used to c-dramas that I know way beforehand what's going to happen. But Outsider is managing to surprise me. Only coz the FL is independent, smart and strong but never rude. Credit goes to the ML as well coz not many men can digest a woman who has her own mind. Since they're patching up quickly maybe when the inevitable breakup happens it won't be easy to get back together?

I won't name but I dropped a c-drama where they tried telling the viewers that the FL has become strong after being in prison for 3years but in truth she was so weak and stupid that I kept rolling my eyes. The ML humiliates her at the altar by playing a video of her dad's suicide news but after a few scenes she's happy with him. He forcibly kisses her and after 1 attempt to push him she starts enjoying it!!
I kept wondering how Su Mo would have dealt with the situation before I dropped it lol

Within the first 5 minutes, ML kisses her forcibly, FL starts enjoying it before pushing him. Next scene he pushes her on the ground and walks out. Not my type of romance lol

If only these people would get some acting lessons first. This is not a school production!

I just love the FL. She isn't like those silly girls we see in many c-dramas who claim they don't rely on a man but they actually do coz they never try to progress in life or improve themselves. And I'm not talking about hair, makeup and dresses.

ML tells the FL they'll go for golfing, she quickly takes a crash course and still doesn't magically turn into a pro, which makes it so realistic. She is being made to feel lowly for dating a rich guy but other than a few dents she has stood her ground. I like how even after being in love she hasn't lost her identity. I know bad times are ahead, hopefully she'll stay strong.

This golfing incident did make me wonder what the ML was thinking. He knew she had never been to a golf course, did he not anticipate that she'd be embarrassed in front of his friends? How could be so clueless? And his friends talking aloud about his marriage, did they think the gf was one of those women who would be ready to be a mistress of a rich loser?

Dropped it. Clearly aimed at kids but don't they have better things to watch?

I love how these lakorns glorify women like this FL who'll run after a cheater then leave him for some time and take him back once he is done sleeping around. It sends a great message about how women should forgive a scum who must have contracted a lot of sexual diseases and possibly some kids from those women as well. After all a man would like a woman to forgive and forget. It's just 'men being men'.
These writers should be awarded for coming up with such BS.

WTH!! Do you by any chance remember which episode this happened in? I see so many comments here but no one has talked about this horrible episode :/