So i skimmed through the summarized shorts on youtube and even then, i skipped through those too. trust me, you dont need much to understand the entire plot. Which leads me to wonder why this drama needs to be 17 episodes of 1 hr+ content. There's a lot of repetitive stupid arguments and fights that keep happening because there's literally nothing else happening, aside from stupidity. There really isn't much content to enjoy when you try to stretch the same old contrived plot devices for 17 episodes. This wouldve been great as a movie though. if they'd kept it short and concise, rather than add pointless subplots.
Main girl was sooooo sure about not wanting to be the mistress but still end up a mistress anyway. That's someone's husband, ma'am, did you forget? a husband who is hiding you from his wife, a wife who knows your existance and is devastated. (and honestly a wife who should've left his stink ass cuz no cheater is worth chasing.) You accepted someone's husband. You aided in breaking the family (and if the argument is, the family was gonna break anyway, not her fault, then i say no. the point is she shouldn't have to take part in it at all from getgo). but honestly, the issue here is the Main guy. Put your damn dick back in your pants, asshole. furthermore, the fact that it was implied that his wife was so busy with work and didn't give him pussy caused him to cheat just shows this dude is shallow. Glad you died in the end. I didnt care for their relationship at all. A relationship built from cheaters deserve to fail. good riddance.
i tried watching this but nadech's performance was so.....bad? idk how to word it. one second he's serious, the next he's making these god awful comedic faces. it's so weird.
ep 10. the fact that they keep trying to give the evil girl a chance to forgive and forget the past and to move on, accept their good karm and go reborn or some shit, as if this bitch wasnt the problem, the shit stain that will not wash off. they need to understand this bitch does not want to forgive and forget, she does not want your good karma, yall need to get on brand and just get rid of her soul. she is EVIL, not redeemable one bit.
no one can convince me the police officer and kla didn't have a thing going on. they need their own spin-off. i wanna know more about them cuz the sexual tension was š
it's called acting. it's called trying out variety of roles, regardless of what it is. it's called a job. this concept is not foreign to you, ....right? because right now i'm stunned you even came to this conclusion about the actress. hopefully you learn a little bit about that before making weird assumptions about people simply doing their job.
This is so dumb. It's so repetitive. The evil girl is dumb. She lets the FL and ML get to know each other and fall in love, then gets pikachu face when the ML doesn't want her when she finally makes her move on him. Like??? You literally let this fool fall in love with your enemy, now you're pissed he hates you? Make it make sense.
Also, this generational "revenge" plot is dumb. Bro, whatever these people did to you generations ago, they retain no memory. Tf are they supposed to do with what they did hundreds of years ago? Go back in time and prevent it????
Feels like this drama focused SO MUCH on the Evil girl and her revenge, and consequences of her revenge, that the romance development between ML and FL is underdeveloped. Overall, this drama was a mess. I didn't know this is already its third remake. They really didn't need to do this a third time. Seriously.
Why are Episodes 1 and 10 only 45 minutes long, whereas the other eight episodes are 1 hour 50 minutes long?From…
I watched it on channel 3 youtube channel. but now it seems it's not available on there anymore, but it is still on their ch3 website https://ch3plus.com/oldseries/604
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Thanks for explaining why you changed your mind. I think it's completely fine to believe, as long as you see and believe in that the evidence you have is viable. I also don't believe in every evidence against Zsj either, I just notice there's just too much inconsistencies to simply ignore.
For the IG situation, did you know that when slandering Zhang Zhehan back in August, Xie Yihua's son revealed that that IG does not belong solely to Zhang Zhehan, that it was created using someone else's phone number? This could explain why it can be active without Zhang Zhehan, however, this in itself cannot be proven or disproven, but what we do know is it is true that Xie Yihua's son said this. He wiped his account after this information was dug up. This is now another inconsistency. Why he knew Zhang Zhehan is not sole owner of his IG. If this can be explained with evidence and cleared, then all the better.
As for why Zhang Zhehan himself or others who know him, even Li's team WB, haven't said anything, is the inconsistency people who doubt need to explain I guess. I don't know the reason either, can only speculate he can't. I don't think his family is in danger though. I just think there are more important things to focus on especially knowing his entire family was slandered.
edit: I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, just showing why I doubt given the existing inconsistency. Her Son participated in slandering Zhang Zhehan, this much is true. So even if one were to claim he and his mother are now helping him, it is still odd that individuals involved in his slander are now helping him. Connect this to all the other inconsistency regarding the brand ownership etc, it paints a particular picture. Whether you believe it or not, is up to you. And it is fine that way.
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It's good to be rational. I'm just trying to understand the consistencies too. If there is a viable explanation then I am also open to understand. If we're banking on rationality, then even if that is the explanation by official Wechat, it still doesn't negate the fact that the photo had information on it. Or are we supposed to just ignore the reality of the photo? You saw it being downloaded and it had info on it, right? The statement by wechat doesn't explain why that is the case, does it? My rational thinking is how odd is that. So there goes an inconsistency. Does this inconsistency mean anything? Maybe it doesn't, maybe it does. But it's there, it exists.
Back in 813, people with connections came out and told stories, people believed them, weeks later connections are just connections, pictures are photoshopped, people lied. All I'm doing is looking at the inconsistencies and questioning it's possibility. If it is nothing, then it is nothing. It doesn't hurt to question things. At least until official confirmation is presented by Zhang Zhehan himself.
The main point of bringing up these inconsistencies is to question it's validly, but also to have an answer to clear them. If they are cleared, then that just means it's closer to support that Zsj is Zzh. But if they are not cleared then, obviously the opposite is true. These inconsistencies don't just exist to disprove anyone who wants to believe, it is also to prove, if they are cleared. We doubt, but we also are prepared to be proven wrong.
Regardless though, people can believe what they want and spend what they want. This is why I continue to doubt, that's all.
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Edit: I just realized we're talking about different things. I don't use wechat so I wouldn't have known what "moments" are, but the photo in question is from the storefront. It's the whale tail necklace. Please check the links provided to see what I am talking about. Thanks.
If the explanation is that photos from moments uploaded to the storefront have no information, then that's even more proof that that is a lie, because we see the photo downloaded from the store front still has information.
Therefore, the dates on that photo has either been altered after/before compression or that is the real date from the photo, even after compression. Let me know if this assumption is wrong. Again, I'm no expert.
If it is the former, then again, odd to alter it to 2018 rather than 2021 or 2022. If it is the later, then why have this merch lined up from 2018 launch in 2022.
I'm just trying to logically understand why the information in that photo is as such. Telling me compression made it informationless when we can see there is still information there, tells me there's a lie somewhere. Why make a statement that compression took away information when there is proof that the photo's information is there? What is the purpose of lying about a photo's data? I do agree this is not proof of anything, this is just one of the many inconsistencies. It may not be worth anything but it is an inconsistency, nonetheless.
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The relevant information is within the metadata though. It's right there. So I'm not sure how saying it doesn't, explains anything. I do understand metadata can be altered though, but if it was altered, then why alter the photo date to 2018 rather than 2021 or 2022? That's what is odd to me.
From QV on twitter "I suggest everyone verify for themselves. If you go to the Wexin store, download this photograph, view the exif data on the photo, you can see this photo was created in September of 2018. Download this from the source, Twitter stripes exif data!"
Basically, the photo of the whale necklace that's been seen worn by Zsj and promoted seems to have been taken way back in 2018. As far as we know, Xie Yihua and Zhang Zhehan were not associated with each other until 2019 ish to 2020 (around Woh era). So I wonder why this supposed design meant to represent Zhang Zhehan was created way before they even met? The Logo, the "find your voice" motto. All of it, created before they met.
Here's video proof of downloading the picture from the brand website and checking the metadata to see the photo was taken in 2018. Feel free to do the same yourselves.
That's just a statement to remind the people who have been using other names to identify him that his name is Zhang Zhehan, nothing else. Don't worry, you did nothing wrong.
It seems recent development shows that Zhang Zhehan fans (Zhang Sanjian Fans?) who are in support of Xie Yihua are now creating a new narrative that CAPA is innocent and they were just a pawn back in 813.
Please, please, I don't care what any of you believe in regards to that acc Zsj, the IG, the teashops, but please don't say CAPA is innocent. That's beyond ridiculous and truly insulting toward Zhang Zhehan. If being in support of Zsj and Xie Yihua leads any of you to believe CAPA is innocent (or that he shouldn't sue them) then you've lost sight of the goal and should reevaluate yourself. They slandered him and led a private led boycott. He lost everything within days. If anyone should be sued, it is CAPA. Those of us who still doubt have never questioned procedural justice or whitewashed CAPA. We have always been adamant about clearing his name through the court and holding the private corporation CAPA accountable for their slander. If in recent times you haven't been thinking this, or have had people you trust tell you not to focus on procedural justice, then I think you need to reconsider who you're getting your information from. I repeat, selling merch does not clear his name. Matter of fact, his brand doesn't even have his name on it. Spend your money however you want but don't lose sight of who to hold accountable.
Also,....what happened to believe what you want, spend what $$ you want? Hoping this comment section can find peace, even if we believe in different things. Post your thoughts on the situation, if someone disagrees, doesn't matter. You make your own thoughts based on what you've read. Despite believing in different things, our end goal is still the same. Justice for him and for him to clear his name through legal procedures. He cannot clear his name through selling merch (this is less of an opinion, more of a fact, because the smear on him has reached far beyond simply coming back without proper investigation), therefore, everything else that is happening right now is noise. If you want to support the brand, go ahead, if you don't want to support the brand, go ahead. But never stop asking and hoping for procedural justice.
Also a fair warning. IG is still banned in China and people use VPN to access it. Whoever said they will do a Live, please do not associate Zhang Zhehan's name with doing a livestream on IG.
Take with a grain of salt but an artist who studied facial anatomy analyzed Zsj's chin that appeared in the new video he posted. They determined the oral facial muscles does not match with Zhang Zhehans.
In terms of the voice. I personally think it sounds a little off, but that's just me. (Voice impersonators are far and wide). Here's an example of a Voice Actor that sounds like Zhang Zhehan. I'm actually kind of shocked how similar this Voice Actor sounds.
Perhaps the IG video does sound like Zhang Zhehan to others. And that is completely fine. If you hear him, then you hear him. I didn't hear him. And even if you heard him, what about the chin that doesn't look like his? We've seen Zhang Zhehan lose tons of weight for his role as Zhou Zishu but his bone structure was still the same. His chin was still the same. So it cannot be that Zhang Zhehan lost so much weight he now as a different chin. But of course, this is all speculation based on ONE small chin. If one day Zhang Zhehan appears on screen stating what he did, what he owns, who he is, then majority of fans who still hold doubt have publicly stated they will apologize. Myself included.
Main girl was sooooo sure about not wanting to be the mistress but still end up a mistress anyway. That's someone's husband, ma'am, did you forget? a husband who is hiding you from his wife, a wife who knows your existance and is devastated. (and honestly a wife who should've left his stink ass cuz no cheater is worth chasing.) You accepted someone's husband. You aided in breaking the family (and if the argument is, the family was gonna break anyway, not her fault, then i say no. the point is she shouldn't have to take part in it at all from getgo). but honestly, the issue here is the Main guy. Put your damn dick back in your pants, asshole. furthermore, the fact that it was implied that his wife was so busy with work and didn't give him pussy caused him to cheat just shows this dude is shallow. Glad you died in the end. I didnt care for their relationship at all. A relationship built from cheaters deserve to fail. good riddance.
Also, this generational "revenge" plot is dumb. Bro, whatever these people did to you generations ago, they retain no memory. Tf are they supposed to do with what they did hundreds of years ago? Go back in time and prevent it????
Feels like this drama focused SO MUCH on the Evil girl and her revenge, and consequences of her revenge, that the romance development between ML and FL is underdeveloped. Overall, this drama was a mess. I didn't know this is already its third remake. They really didn't need to do this a third time. Seriously.
No subs since I understand thai.
For the IG situation, did you know that when slandering Zhang Zhehan back in August, Xie Yihua's son revealed that that IG does not belong solely to Zhang Zhehan, that it was created using someone else's phone number? This could explain why it can be active without Zhang Zhehan, however, this in itself cannot be proven or disproven, but what we do know is it is true that Xie Yihua's son said this. He wiped his account after this information was dug up. This is now another inconsistency. Why he knew Zhang Zhehan is not sole owner of his IG. If this can be explained with evidence and cleared, then all the better.
Her son saying Zzh IG is not solely his
https://twitter.com/QuelleVousNo2/status/1516092300862312448?t=4DyaSD2w-QBSon-6ht0kPw&s=19
Deleted his account
https://twitter.com/QuelleVousNo2/status/1516413447226937360?t=WzEZeOyU4CS2JtGXysX0hg&s=19
As for why Zhang Zhehan himself or others who know him, even Li's team WB, haven't said anything, is the inconsistency people who doubt need to explain I guess. I don't know the reason either, can only speculate he can't. I don't think his family is in danger though. I just think there are more important things to focus on especially knowing his entire family was slandered.
edit: I'm not trying to change your mind or anything, just showing why I doubt given the existing inconsistency. Her Son participated in slandering Zhang Zhehan, this much is true. So even if one were to claim he and his mother are now helping him, it is still odd that individuals involved in his slander are now helping him. Connect this to all the other inconsistency regarding the brand ownership etc, it paints a particular picture. Whether you believe it or not, is up to you. And it is fine that way.
Back in 813, people with connections came out and told stories, people believed them, weeks later connections are just connections, pictures are photoshopped, people lied. All I'm doing is looking at the inconsistencies and questioning it's possibility. If it is nothing, then it is nothing. It doesn't hurt to question things. At least until official confirmation is presented by Zhang Zhehan himself.
The main point of bringing up these inconsistencies is to question it's validly, but also to have an answer to clear them. If they are cleared, then that just means it's closer to support that Zsj is Zzh. But if they are not cleared then, obviously the opposite is true. These inconsistencies don't just exist to disprove anyone who wants to believe, it is also to prove, if they are cleared. We doubt, but we also are prepared to be proven wrong.
Regardless though, people can believe what they want and spend what they want. This is why I continue to doubt, that's all.
If the explanation is that photos from moments uploaded to the storefront have no information, then that's even more proof that that is a lie, because we see the photo downloaded from the store front still has information.
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I'm no expert in metadata compression, but a simple google search tells me compression does not change metadata, it is a reduction. https://www.metadata2go.com/file-info/compression
Therefore, the dates on that photo has either been altered after/before compression or that is the real date from the photo, even after compression. Let me know if this assumption is wrong. Again, I'm no expert.
If it is the former, then again, odd to alter it to 2018 rather than 2021 or 2022. If it is the later, then why have this merch lined up from 2018 launch in 2022.
I'm just trying to logically understand why the information in that photo is as such. Telling me compression made it informationless when we can see there is still information there, tells me there's a lie somewhere. Why make a statement that compression took away information when there is proof that the photo's information is there? What is the purpose of lying about a photo's data? I do agree this is not proof of anything, this is just one of the many inconsistencies. It may not be worth anything but it is an inconsistency, nonetheless.
From QV on twitter "I suggest everyone verify for themselves. If you go to the Wexin store, download this photograph, view the exif data on the photo, you can see this photo was created in September of 2018. Download this from the source, Twitter stripes exif data!"
Basically, the photo of the whale necklace that's been seen worn by Zsj and promoted seems to have been taken way back in 2018. As far as we know, Xie Yihua and Zhang Zhehan were not associated with each other until 2019 ish to 2020 (around Woh era). So I wonder why this supposed design meant to represent Zhang Zhehan was created way before they even met? The Logo, the "find your voice" motto. All of it, created before they met.
https://twitter.com/QuelleVousNo2/status/1517025538618974208?t=c2jC7rAr2TD899MiukoC2g&s=19
Here's video proof of downloading the picture from the brand website and checking the metadata to see the photo was taken in 2018. Feel free to do the same yourselves.
https://twitter.com/niming76919119/status/1517020181171740672?t=aEWwXRsAexoiR2EqKb1cWw&s=19
Also, Zhang Zhehan's IG uploaded cute photos. Unsure when they were taken.
https://twitter.com/Karenkk_axel/status/1515223725121372167?t=UUMN0Fmjn6njoB1TSt7MLw&s=19
Please, please, I don't care what any of you believe in regards to that acc Zsj, the IG, the teashops, but please don't say CAPA is innocent. That's beyond ridiculous and truly insulting toward Zhang Zhehan. If being in support of Zsj and Xie Yihua leads any of you to believe CAPA is innocent (or that he shouldn't sue them) then you've lost sight of the goal and should reevaluate yourself. They slandered him and led a private led boycott. He lost everything within days. If anyone should be sued, it is CAPA. Those of us who still doubt have never questioned procedural justice or whitewashed CAPA. We have always been adamant about clearing his name through the court and holding the private corporation CAPA accountable for their slander. If in recent times you haven't been thinking this, or have had people you trust tell you not to focus on procedural justice, then I think you need to reconsider who you're getting your information from. I repeat, selling merch does not clear his name. Matter of fact, his brand doesn't even have his name on it. Spend your money however you want but don't lose sight of who to hold accountable.
Also,....what happened to believe what you want, spend what $$ you want? Hoping this comment section can find peace, even if we believe in different things. Post your thoughts on the situation, if someone disagrees, doesn't matter. You make your own thoughts based on what you've read. Despite believing in different things, our end goal is still the same. Justice for him and for him to clear his name through legal procedures. He cannot clear his name through selling merch (this is less of an opinion, more of a fact, because the smear on him has reached far beyond simply coming back without proper investigation), therefore, everything else that is happening right now is noise. If you want to support the brand, go ahead, if you don't want to support the brand, go ahead. But never stop asking and hoping for procedural justice.
Also a fair warning. IG is still banned in China and people use VPN to access it. Whoever said they will do a Live, please do not associate Zhang Zhehan's name with doing a livestream on IG.
https://twitter.com/Jeriafterdark/status/1513654924206174208
In terms of the voice. I personally think it sounds a little off, but that's just me. (Voice impersonators are far and wide). Here's an example of a Voice Actor that sounds like Zhang Zhehan. I'm actually kind of shocked how similar this Voice Actor sounds.
https://twitter.com/xiaobabiiwawa/status/1513486555952070656
Perhaps the IG video does sound like Zhang Zhehan to others. And that is completely fine. If you hear him, then you hear him. I didn't hear him. And even if you heard him, what about the chin that doesn't look like his? We've seen Zhang Zhehan lose tons of weight for his role as Zhou Zishu but his bone structure was still the same. His chin was still the same. So it cannot be that Zhang Zhehan lost so much weight he now as a different chin. But of course, this is all speculation based on ONE small chin. If one day Zhang Zhehan appears on screen stating what he did, what he owns, who he is, then majority of fans who still hold doubt have publicly stated they will apologize. Myself included.