The reason why I said you mocked people is in one of your earlier comments, you essentially dismiss people who have said they were uncomfortable, stating they shouldn't judge this series with morals. Going back to what I said, you chose to view this without, why can't people view this with? By dismissing people's genuine reaction because that is not the same reaction you had, are you not basically mocking them?
As for your point about international films, I watch western movies too and I have seen many commentary about the morality of the shows. Just recently with Wonder Women 1984 there were multiple debates on whether Wonder Women raped the unknown man being used as a vessel. The morality lenses is and will always be applicable in all films. If you choose not to use it, then you do you. But others do not have to.
And finally, I described your activities as such by the posts you made and it is purely my assumption, therefore you can say I am wrong if that is not what you are doing.
Overall, post whatever you want about this series, how much you love it, how compelling, whatever, it is your entitlement. But other people's perspective are also just as entitled as yours. Sure, if you say you are not crossing any lines. But telling people to stop putting morality first, that is essentially your first step into crossing that line. The line I am talking about is in between opinionating about the series and opinionating about other people's opinion. Once you go from talking about the series to talking about how people (especially people who already watched the series, not new watchers) should view the series, you've crossed the line. That's it.
Hope you have a nice day too. In terms of you being civil, you are more better than the other guy in this thread. But you dress your words well so insults are rather indirect.
The only thing I have to say to your art analogies is art is subjective. You can see art however you want and that is the beauty of it. You've chosen to let go of morality to view this series, what you don't seem to understand is others choose to view it through morality. Like yourself, they made a choice.
The rape aside, even the age-gap and the step-brother factor. Those things are inherently based on the persons opinions, you coming out to mock people for being uncomfortable is literally so low.
You've dressed it well by saying you don't want people ruining the experience for others, but in actuality, you just don't like that others simply did not see "art" the way you did. I've seen your other comments, both these long ones and the short ones replying to others. You react the same way, unable to accept that people just don't like the series as much as you do. Seeing how much you put this series on a pedestal, that assumption has merit. It seems less about explaining, more about telling people to stop thinking the way they do, and think the way you do. That crosses a line, different from simply "explaining" certain aspects of the story.
I'm not saying Licheng and Teng's parts was bad, they were suuuuper cute and the acting is good, but sometimes the execution and situation can be a little awkward and give second hand embarrassment. Imo Yongjie and Xingsi's parts were definitely more complex but.....I don't like their story so. Sigh. Anyone have recommendations for BLs? Any country is fine.
Exactly why I say you can't explain things how you see it then expect people to see it the way you do. If she doesn't see it that way, go for it, explain why it's not rape. But don't come for people who saw it differently and try to tell people to think otherwise. Her posts have always been in response to more people commenting about disliking the bro story. You and Rehab as well. I can respect y'all explaining why y'all like the show and how y'all see it, but I can't respect how everyone is expected to see it the way y'all do.
For example "If you can deprogram yourself you can have a good time. Just open your mind and just realize, hey, I have these weird ideas that I actually don't even believe in when I look at them up close. Just have a good time without worrying about all these moral dilemmas that don't really exist."
My question is, why should people "deprogram" themselves if what they're thinking is their genuine reaction and opinion? So the people who disliked aspects of the show are "programmed" to think a certain way and people who liked the show have been "deprogrammed". That's exactly what I call expecting other's to see the show the same way as you do. No one is "programmed" to think anything. They just think that way. Just like how y'all have your own thoughts about the show.
I've read her posts. She makes valid points about why she likes it. Have your own analysis, express your love for the series, whatever. Just don't expect everyone else to see it the same way as you. She reposts because she expects others to come to like the show once she explains why she likes it the way she sees fit. That's just pointless and spamming.
I'm not against people making solid points, I'm against people thinking their points matters more than other people's. The world doesn't exist around your likes for the show folks, people can dislike whatever they want. Coming again and again to tell people they can't dislike something because "art" is just ridiculous.
Coming from the person who stoops as low as insulting any and everyone. Now that is funny. Sounds to me you're the one throwing a frustrated tantrum. The irony.
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As for your point about international films, I watch western movies too and I have seen many commentary about the morality of the shows. Just recently with Wonder Women 1984 there were multiple debates on whether Wonder Women raped the unknown man being used as a vessel. The morality lenses is and will always be applicable in all films. If you choose not to use it, then you do you. But others do not have to.
And finally, I described your activities as such by the posts you made and it is purely my assumption, therefore you can say I am wrong if that is not what you are doing.
Overall, post whatever you want about this series, how much you love it, how compelling, whatever, it is your entitlement. But other people's perspective are also just as entitled as yours. Sure, if you say you are not crossing any lines. But telling people to stop putting morality first, that is essentially your first step into crossing that line. The line I am talking about is in between opinionating about the series and opinionating about other people's opinion. Once you go from talking about the series to talking about how people (especially people who already watched the series, not new watchers) should view the series, you've crossed the line. That's it.
Hope you have a nice day too. In terms of you being civil, you are more better than the other guy in this thread. But you dress your words well so insults are rather indirect.
The rape aside, even the age-gap and the step-brother factor. Those things are inherently based on the persons opinions, you coming out to mock people for being uncomfortable is literally so low.
You've dressed it well by saying you don't want people ruining the experience for others, but in actuality, you just don't like that others simply did not see "art" the way you did. I've seen your other comments, both these long ones and the short ones replying to others. You react the same way, unable to accept that people just don't like the series as much as you do. Seeing how much you put this series on a pedestal, that assumption has merit. It seems less about explaining, more about telling people to stop thinking the way they do, and think the way you do. That crosses a line, different from simply "explaining" certain aspects of the story.
Exactly why I say you can't explain things how you see it then expect people to see it the way you do. If she doesn't see it that way, go for it, explain why it's not rape. But don't come for people who saw it differently and try to tell people to think otherwise. Her posts have always been in response to more people commenting about disliking the bro story. You and Rehab as well. I can respect y'all explaining why y'all like the show and how y'all see it, but I can't respect how everyone is expected to see it the way y'all do.
For example "If you can deprogram yourself you can have a good time. Just open your mind and just realize, hey, I have these weird ideas that I actually don't even believe in when I look at them up close. Just have a good time without worrying about all these moral dilemmas that don't really exist."
My question is, why should people "deprogram" themselves if what they're thinking is their genuine reaction and opinion? So the people who disliked aspects of the show are "programmed" to think a certain way and people who liked the show have been "deprogrammed". That's exactly what I call expecting other's to see the show the same way as you do. No one is "programmed" to think anything. They just think that way. Just like how y'all have your own thoughts about the show.