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@Arclei

"Yeah, this is true. Everything nowadays is safe for investors and thus there are no risks being taken which results in everything being formulaic, predictable, bland, and boring asf."

This is why they put on a RR show in the first scenes. To make sure they get some nice content for their trailers. And the rest of the show is full and flavorless. ,😞💢

@Arclei

"Ugh, yes, even in role reversal dramas MLs are still saving the FLs at every turn 😬 and we're lucky if the FL gets to do that back to him at least once.'

Yes, I never understood why, especially Chinese filmmakers, often make MLs save FLs in RR dramas. They don't have any problem making young FL save young ML, because they LOVE that so-called "debt of gratitude" trope. And ML paying with his body.

But why is It, that adult FL is no more heroic?? SMH.

@Arclei

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A Gentleman Is like a Mu (2026)

"THIS DRAMA WAS INCREDIBLEEEEEEE!!!! I still think about it 😩😩😩"

For real. I would like more like this one. The characters were complex. They had a background and the story was captivating too. So much push and pull and unspeakable desires, with a compelling story. A real treat.

The novel, if there is, might be interesting to read. I never read any complete drama novel so far. But I am tempted.

Love in Disguise and Shadows of Desire

Those trailers look so interesting, that waiting for the release is hard.

Arclei:
Some individual sets would indeed pass 😂 but the general vibe is very provocative, so I fear most wouldn't

Okay, cause I was like not my sweaters + jean combos 🥺 My sweaters are innocent!

Arclei:
But yeah, I'm also sure the requirements are different for historicals/xianxias/contemps-

Vastly different! That's why I fear only the clean girl makeup would pass in a contemp.

Arclei:
contemporary MLs always look boring asf

Some of the fashion is cute, but it's true they can't get as creative as MLs in historicals. That's why this little exercise was so fun!

Arclei:
About time I deal it back to you with how much you've been putting ME to work lately!

This is only supposed to go one way!! >:(

Arclei:
It's our wife from TXT, isn't it?

It is indeed Yeonjun 😁

Arclei:
sigh sexual harassment and assault, domestic abuse, marital sexual abuse, forced pregnancy, and yes, mpreg

I—

You know what? That's exactly what I should've expected.

Arclei:
especially not since it's coming from netflix

It's being made by Netflix? Ooh, girl, I'm sorry D: Yeah, they're gonna destroy it. And if it's actually good, it'll get cancelled after one season. Netflix is generally crap, but the general public really needs to share some of the blame. They're the reason why Emily In Paris keeps getting renewed.

Arclei:
Idk, it's weird- she doesn't feel like one of us like other actresses or actors do, but I could be misreading them. Ig it doesn't help that she looks more uncanny now (overly thin imo) and it's a bit unsettling (compared to say, how she looked in TKoW).

I think her continuing to go after RR/RR-leaning projects says something, but I don't know if the fact that she ends up in bad ones is her fault? Maybe the script for the first episode or two seems promising, so she signs on, gets the new scripts as they're written, and they're garbage. There are so few good RRs, so maybe she just settles for as close as she can get. Not sure either, but I kind of wanna give her the benefit of the doubt. I do agree she's missing the aura some of our fav RR actresses have, which is a shame since she gravitates to RR dynamics.

Oof—the thinness is unsettling for sure even though I haven't seen her older works. The "uncanny thin" look is also back in the U.S. after so many years of the body positivity movement. Smh. I know it's hard, but it's just proof of why people should try their best to be happy with their body if they are healthy. These body trends come and go.

Arclei:
I feel like dramas that don't center the bodyguard thing execute it the best, examples: Parallel World, Love in Between, The Ingenious One, etc.

I'll have to check those out!

Arclei:
I had no idea man was popular enough for this to be a hot take!! 👀👀 I watched KSH in a movie and really enjoyed it and his performance and I've never seen Suzy in anything-

Yeah, people love him and his dimples, which are admittedly cute, but his performances are always lackluster to me (Start Up, which I finished. And Hometown Cha Cha Cha, which I didn't). Not bad, but not evoking anything at all. He also picks very safe roles.

I have a soft spot for Suzy since she was in a girl group I really liked as a teen (Miss A). I love that she picks risky projects, but like I said, they're very hit or miss. When You Were Sleeping was a banger though, and Start Up was watchable (the drama I first saw CY's faceclaim in).

Arclei:
Tell. me.

Okay, so...in the webtoon, the romance isn't between the FL vampire and ML painter. He's just there to paint her while she laments her long life in a very Interview with A Vampire fashion. Her actual love interest is a...wait for it...vampire hunter from her past. That pretty much killed all my hopes since even though she's this immortal monster with superhuman strength and a bunch of other things, she's still in the position of being the hunted. She's still the prey. There are ways to keep things RR with this dynamic, but I highly doubt the drama will do those things. Now, it could change things and make the painter the love interest, but I'm wondering if production is brave enough to make such an integral change.

jay:
I just started it and I'm loving it!!!! 😆❤️ I really liked Forever Love so it's right up my alley lol.

Isn't the FL absolutely insane in the best way? 😂 I couldn't believe they had the guts to write her, but I applaud whoever was responsible and want more!

jay:
I also enjoyed Shadow Sovereign, some minor complaints but I had a good time overall! I liked the leads and their scheming a lot 😁 What did you think of it??

I feel the same way as you: there were a couple things I didn't like, especially toward the end, but I liked it overall! And it gave us some juicy RR moments (The FL backing ML into a wall to kiss him in one of the earlier episodes, her rescuing him on horseback, her giving him a piggyback ride when he was unconscious, and her choking him out and him being so okay with it).

unbeliebubble:
The problem is that FLs are weak or gullible at some point of time, even if they look like badasses in the first scenes.

Yeah...unfortunately that's what I keep running into with Thai dramas, and it's jarring.

unbeliebubble:

2 sisters swap grooms on wedding day because they slept with the wrong groom.

I wasn't thinking much about it, but I found this version of the trope among others. I watched it. Loved It, and I read that this is the only version with a Puppy ML. So, possibly the only RR version among the 6 or 7 pre-existing versions.

I've tried to watch a couple versions of this plot, and so far the only version with real RR was The Wedding Mix-Up. The second couple was the domineering FL x submissive ML, and they were PERFECT. Still one of my favorite couples to this day. In this version, even the traditional couple had moments where the woman took charge, so I was pleasantly surprised!

unbeliebubble:
So I recommend it : "京航婚事:姐妹换嫁,掌控战爷全家" or "Sisters Swapping Bride and Manipulating Master Zhan's Entire Family"

I'll definitely give it a try since I love The Wedding Mix-Up. I'm hoping it'll be just as RR. Thank you for the recommendation!

unbeliebubble:
@potatocouch : the outfits are very cute. Thanks for shairing.

Thank you! 😊 It was fun choosing them.

dindin:
is his love confession scene when he still believes she's a man and she wants to get rid of him so she says that if he wants a relationship he's gonna have to "be the woman" and he agrees.

I've been WAITING on this drama. I was VERY nervous about it not delivering (esp because of some of the stuff I saw in the trailer) but this just gave me a tiny bit of hope. They both look soooo good! And she's genuinely one of the few actresses I've seen that actually makes a believable man.

Arclei:
This sounds like it's a remake of The Wedding Mix-Up which has a SUPER DUPER MEGA RR secondary couple (and it's not 3hours! ahah)!! But nice that another version also has a cute SML with RR! Thanks for sharing!

Hahahaha, this is exactly what I said. Looking forward to giving this new version a try. I desperately need another Wedding Mix-Up!

murderbee:
actually, that comes from an ancient Chinese story. The story of the "cut sleeve”(斷袖) is a famous historical account from ancient China about Emperor Ai of Han and his favourite male companion, Dong Xian. Around 4 BCE, the emperor woke up from an afternoon nap to find Dong Xian fast asleep on the sleeve of his imperial robe. Rather than wake his lover to attend a court meeting, the emperor took a sword and quietly sliced off his own sleeve to slip away without disturbing him.

So...I've seen memes and animations of people cutting their sleeves so their CATS can sleep peacefully, but I never knew it actually happened with a man first, and came from ancient China 😂

dindin:
but it didn't feel really RR to me.

....So that's what I was seeing in the trailer T . T

Arclei:
AYOOO???? LMAAAOOO I had almost started this drama several times, but I've seen the ML in several projects and really disliked every one, so I'm a bit hesitant about his projects now 😂 But thanks for the recc, anyways

Wait...>.> Which drama is this?

Arclei:
Shadows of Desire Trailer!!!!

We've already discussed this at-length. It made me feel so many things!!

murderbee:

WOWOWOWOWOWOW THIS LITERALLY SAVED MY WHOLE WEEK!

I’ve been feeling stressed, sleep-deprived, overworked, and have had the emotional stability of a toddler, but this news genuinely made my week 😌

i will be watching this many times

I feel you on the stress, sleep-deprivation, and overwork. That's why I haven't been able to post as much :-/ I'm really sorry, hope your week gets better, and you get a break soon.

This trailer also saved me LOL. I can't WAIT. I think I'm gonna start reading the novel.

Arclei:
THIS DRAMA WAS INCREDIBLEEEEEEE!!!! I still think about it 😩😩😩

Ah, so it left a scar on your heart too? 🥹

I keep thinking about the first half of the year, and wishing I could erase it, Forever Love, Yue Bang Jiu Xiao, and the Wedding Mix-Up from my brain so I could watch them again.

Arclei:
idk guys- my hopes are a bit higher for this.

I'm getting whiplash. The trailer I saw was giving unconventional trad, so this is a nice surprise! Idk anymore lol. I'll just have to give it a shot and see what happens.

murderbee:
The second couple looks so bad though 😭 it’s like they needed to temper the RR with the opposite and make a toxic domineering 2ML

Why must they always do this???? They did the same thing with PoJ (which I didn't finish, mind you). Can't we just get our RR without the addition of a toxic man?? At least he seems to be sandwiched between two RR relationships. Did you see the third couple? They look RR too.

@potatocouch I’m sorry to hear you’re also feeling stressed and over-worked 😢 i hope you get a well-deserved break, and I love reading your contributions in this club!!!

And for Shadows of Desire, I did notice the 3rd couple seemed to be RR-leaning at least, so hopefully they’ll be enough to cancel out that toxic, gut-wrenchingly horrific 2ML (can you tell how much I despise these types of characters lol)

You’re right, they ALWAYS DO THIS. When watching PoJ I just skipped all those scenes because it genuinely sickened me. And then after it blew up, everyone I saw on the internet was calling him hot, sexy, blah blah, and that made me feel even more disgusted, so 😭

Also, the cut sleeve story is one of my favourites from ancient China; it’s so cool seeing how things so long ago influence today’s culture 😊

potatocouch:

Yeah...unfortunately that's what I keep running into with Thai dramas, and it's jarring.

If was only in thai dramas... ruth is : it's rampaging!! it is everywhere, especially in Cdramas. So annoying.

potatocouch:

I'll definitely give it a try since I love The Wedding Mix-Up. I'm hoping it'll be just as RR. Thank you for the recommendation!

You should : I loved it. 💖

@Arclei told me about the "The wedding mix-up" too. I will definitly watch it. Thanks for the recommendation.

potatocouch:

I have a soft spot for Suzy since she was in a girl group I really liked as a teen (Miss A). I love that she picks risky projects, but like I said, they're very hit or miss. When You Were Sleeping was a banger though, and Start Up was watchable (the drama I first saw CY's faceclaim in).

I like SUZY 💖too. I liked her every were, even in "While you were sleeping". When she played the childish green tea teenager is "Big". Her acting had to grow but she was beleivable in every role I saw her so far. Fact is, she is so famous and also so beautiful. Yet she tries to suprise the audien every time. I haven't watched yet "Genie, Make a Wish". Because I read that her character is a Psychopath and the romance is weird like a dark romance. But I might give it a try someday.

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I just watched this vertical remake of the long length RR drama "Pursuit of jade." I don't know the title of this one. Although I looked for the title, I couldn't find it... well it was boring. The character's costumes are copy pasted from PoJ. But The heroine doesn't have a little sister but a blind grand-mother to protect , unlike in PoJ. I am also sure that the plot is simplified because it is a vertical drama. I watched it to know the Main plot of PoJ, but it was very boring and there's no RR in this at all.

Although, Slave ML is bough to continue the lineage by Porc Butcher FL, FL doesn't treat him as such, thus doesn't act as his master at all, there are minimal to non existant push and pulls and the plot is draggy as f***, in my opinion. So RR=0

This is weird because for a RR drama to be that boring. FL is the head of the family, so according to the setting she is in control, she is also a badass with a knife. But i don't know how they managed to make FL so bland and uninteresting. SMH.

ML being a green flag ain't gonna cut it, for me to see real RR in this. A pity 😞😞😞😞

PS : If ever somebody stumbles upon the title of this one, thanks in advance for telling me.

Update : I gave it 7/10 because I wanted a better RR experience watching this because it is a RR drama.

However, if I disregard the RR aspect and take this as a countryside side romance it would be 8/10 : well done, acting is ok and the simplified plot is well delivered.

But this is supposed to be RR ,💢

@Arclei

THANK YOU SO MUCH for :

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What a great RR drama. Although the ending was very usual. The drama is great ans RR is on dire in this show. I have to rewatch this 😛. They even made a SML set-up a honey trap 😆 something only female antagonist do in every show ... WoW... Among other things

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