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^^Guys, perhaps putting that in spoiler writing would be great next time around. My best explanation for the above is that *Binggrae had not yet decided his sexual identity prior to being college-age. Some people call that being "bicurious," but I'm not sure if I would apply that term here. I think Binggrae was more or less confused at how close he felt to Trash and how his response to that closeness was. So, when he experiences that with DieDie, it confuses him further because perhaps he thought he wouldn't experience that with anyone else but Trash. That's why he looks for "confirmation."*

However, my issue with the writers concerning this is not who * Binggrae ends up with so much as how it was done. If the writers had put more of Binggrae's story throughout the drama instead of in the last few episodes, I don't think it would feel like as much of a cop out by the writers. I do like DieDie, and I think that those two are cute together. (That doesn't mean that I'm not devastated for Joon Hee; writer-nim, if it's not Binggrae, then you've got some explaining to do about that red car's occupant!) *

Overall, I liked the episode, even if all the ships are sunk. I was never very good at Battleship.
Episode 17 answers a lot of questions I am still mind blown HAHAHA :D
Guys, please put 'em spoilers in white! :(

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Okay, in other news, Yoo Yeon Suk is to star in not one, not two but three upcoming 2014 movies:

Yoo Yeon-seok to star opposite Im Soo-jung in romantic thriller

Yoo Yeon-seok scores another film role opposite Park Hae-il

Yoo Yeon-seok cast in another movie (no really)
dapinaymrs wrote: Guys, please put 'em spoilers in white! :(

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Okay, in other news, Yoo Yeon Suk is to star in not one, not two but three upcoming 2014 movies:

Yoo Yeon-seok to star opposite Im Soo-jung in romantic thriller

Yoo Yeon-seok scores another film role opposite Park Hae-il

Yoo Yeon-seok cast in another movie (no really)


I'm so excited! I hope his star keeps rising!
Me too. I'm really liking him in Reply 1994.
Okay, so watching episode 17, it's like 0.000000099% that my ship will sail. Oh well. :( Haitai, please come back.
dapinaymrs wrote: Guys, please put 'em spoilers in white! :(

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Okay, in other news, Yoo Yeon Suk is to star in not one, not two but three upcoming 2014 movies:

Yoo Yeon-seok to star opposite Im Soo-jung in romantic thriller

Yoo Yeon-seok scores another film role opposite Park Hae-il

Yoo Yeon-seok cast in another movie (no really)


Oops, I'm so sorry I didn't put that in white, I guess I was deep in thought :D!

yankumicho wrote:

However, my issue with the writers concerning this is not who * Binggrae ends up with so much as how it was done. If the writers had put more of Binggrae's story throughout the drama instead of in the last few episodes, I don't think it would feel like as much of a cop out by the writers. I do like DieDie, and I think that those two are cute together. (That doesn't mean that I'm not devastated for Joon Hee; writer-nim, if it's not Binggrae, then you've got some explaining to do about that red car's occupant!) *

Overall, I liked the episode, even if all the ships are sunk. I was never very good at Battleship.


I agree with you. There should have been something leading up to this, we should have allowed more insight in Binggrae's thoughts. I guess that's why it didn't totally convince me - it felt out of the blue and like they changed their mind in the last minute.
And I wanted to know about Joon Hee, too! Man that was such a bummer :D
I was a bit upset about the red car thing, *that was just needless trolling that got everyone excited at the possibility of a gay couple and then let us down. Binggrae getting with a girl was actually quite a sweet story, but I felt less happy about it than I should have done all because that red car raised my hopes for something else. It was also a bit silly how in 2013 neither Binggrae nor anyone else said that he was going out to see his wife =_=*

Also, if it does have to be the Trash + NJ couple, I wish the writers would actually make Trash likeable, but the more this show progresses the more I dislike him, particularly in the last two episodes. If my boyfriend attacked a school child on the bus, I would actually dump him. *I am also really unhappy about his proposal. If NJ was my friend I would want to talk some sense into her. She hasn't graduated yet, she hasn't started her career and she definitely hasn't matured enough yet to know who she wants to be. I feel like Trash is selfishly trying to tie her down before she grows up. Through this whole show I feel that he has been very selfish towards NJ. * Not happy about this couple at all :(
I pretty much agree with you on everything, wee_retty.
I also thought that the whole red car thing was total and unnecessary trolling. Why would they get our hopes up for that? And I also thought that looking back, Binggrae's 2013 scene didn't make much sense.

It's not really that I dislike Trash, but I feel like the writers didn't give us enough opportunites to fall in love with him. We hardly got to see any dating scenes or important moments between those two. Actually I liked Oppa a lot more in the beginnig. Also I never really forgave him for * stringing NaJung along for so long. Because he never told her how he felt for such a long time I somehow expected there to be a grand reason for it, because she suffered for more than a year. But then it was revealed that it was just the close family thing and it was kind of a let down for me. Sure the reason was acceptable - but not acceptable enough for the amount of time he let her be so unhappy. At least in my opinion.
And I also don't think she's ready for marriage. She has a lot of growing to do and I feel like it's too soon for her.
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I really don't get why so many people don't like Trash Oppa and think that his kinda mean to Na Jung and all. I love them together!! They have so good chemistry and in my opinion, Na Jung has absolutely no chemistry at all with Chil Bong so I can't see (and I don't want to either) them ending up together. Just doesn't exist in my world. I'm completely team Trash! No doubt about it.
OMO!! I just loved ep 17!!! Na-Jung and Oppa are making a wonderful couple!! But I also miss Chilbong!
Liliino wrote: OMO!! I just loved ep 17!!! Na-Jung and Oppa are making a wonderful couple!! But I also miss Chilbong!


I totally agree with you! Awesome couple!
But I actually don't miss ChilBong that much ;)
Trash is definately not written to appeal to an international audience. ** What the f kind of a man beats up a teenage girl???**
Oh my goodness, I finally finished Episode 17 and it was just an ordeal to go through. They already are purposely keeping Chilbong away and then thanks to Verizon's interactive commercial, 'walking in a winter wonderland' is stuck in my head now. O_o Aigoo~~! Jinjjaaaa! Chongmalu, chongmalu!

wee_retty wrote: I was a bit upset about the red car thing, *that was just needless trolling that got everyone excited at the possibility of a gay couple and then let us down. Binggrae getting with a girl was actually quite a sweet story, but I felt less happy about it than I should have done all because that red car raised my hopes for something else. It was also a bit silly how in 2013 neither Binggrae nor anyone else said that he was going out to see his wife =_=*

Also, if it does have to be the Trash + NJ couple, I wish the writers would actually make Trash likeable, but the more this show progresses the more I dislike him, particularly in the last two episodes. If my boyfriend attacked a school child on the bus, I would actually dump him. *I am also really unhappy about his proposal. If NJ was my friend I would want to talk some sense into her. She hasn't graduated yet, she hasn't started her career and she definitely hasn't matured enough yet to know who she wants to be. I feel like Trash is selfishly trying to tie her down before she grows up. Through this whole show I feel that he has been very selfish towards NJ. * Not happy about this couple at all :(


Thanks to certain spoilers here I wasn't surprised what happened to Binggrae. But if I didn't know about it, I'd probably be cursing the writer for trolling us yet again. Thinking about it, *discovering your sexual preference can happen at that age* because it's the formative years before becoming an adult. So Binggrae taking a step in filling out the blanks is deciding on his own and it's him growing up.

I've never been fond of Trash though he does have one or two good traits (cleanliness not being one of them lol): one is being respectful of the elders (their parents in particular) and two he is serious with Na Jeong. But then again, you know, any namja could do that so I guess the most important thing is that Na Jeong is happy with him, and he has won her over. Having said that, I actually understand your point and agree on some parts. Na Jeong definitely needs *to grow up because seriously for the major part of this drama, her character has been hanging around on Trash that I cannot see her doing anything else. The time constraint in the drama may be hindering this since we are stuck in the later half of the '90s and it doesn't allow us to see what happens beyond their college life and so on.*

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On a side-note, I loved the R97 cameos. With the cameos, I came to realize how Na Jeong really needs to grow up, and compared to Shi won (who I liked less in the first series), I liked NJ a lot lesser.