How hysterical and emotionally stupid you all are, you can't even wait for the drama to come out to see what's…
"How hysterical and emotionally stupid you all are ..."
You're having a full-blown meltdown over our comments, and you have the audacity to call us hysterical and emotionally stupid?
"... you can't even wait for the drama to come out" "... the story of Heesu and Seungwon will be the center of the drama"
You're using your crystal balls and tarot cards to make bold claims about a drama that hasn't aired. And your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that Hee Su and Seung Won's interactions won't be the center of the drama
"You don't deserve this drama"
We don't deserve this "straight" drama, we deserve better
Some people want to watch two ladies fall in love while fighting crime, nothing wrong with that
The thriller bits aren't thrilling or doing it for some viewers. That's where the GL swoops in to save the day. The rest of us are different and into every twist and turn
90% of the trailer is ji yu and her interactions with the boys. ji yu and chan young are holdings hands, while…
"Except there is no proof of marginalization or erasure in this drama"
There's no proof if you choose to ignore the giant elephant in the room
"Heesu's story is very obviously the primary aspect of this drama"
Unless you've got some secret intel from the production team, you can't be confident that the gay couple won't be pushed aside
"And filling the comment section with negativity before the drama is even out is an affront to all the people who worked hard"
They're giving us a mixed bag of gay and "straight" storylines. They can't commit to telling a fully gay story, and I can't commit to giving their mixed bag praise or a standing ovation. Commitment deserves commitment
"Thankfully not all BLs are fantastical wish fulfillment with no sense of reality. And some of us are more concerned with authentic stories being told than just being served fluff"
Since when did "authenticity" become a synonym for "misery porn?" Happily, not all BLs/gay stories are a thunderstorm of sadness. They're reflecting reality's rainbow and the full range of human experiences, including the sunny side of being gay or in a gay relationship
Adaptations bring out the pitchforks in dedicated fans. Ariel's skin tone changed in The Little Mermaid's adaptation,…
They've messed with the source material. And that's not fear-mongering, it's pattern recognition. The removal of the second gay couple's storyline and the insertion of a "straight" storyline in the adaptation contributes to the ongoing problem of gay underrepresentation and invisibility in media, something we've seen before
No platform, however queer-friendly it claims to be, can guarantee immunity from the influence of straightwashing and homophobic censorship. The drawn-out production timeline might've given the powers that be ample opportunity to tone down or remove the half-gay content
Give them the benefit of the doubt, I won't. I've reached my limit
90% of the trailer is Heesu and Seungwon and still it's WW3 in the comments. BL fans in a nutshell.
Adaptations bring out the pitchforks in dedicated fans. Ariel's skin tone changed in The Little Mermaid's adaptation, and the Internet lost its collective mind. Didn't you see their WW3? That's proof dedicated fans of every genre take their stories seriously. You better believe we’re going to fight tooth and nail to protect our beloved gay stories from being messed with as well
I srsly wish I could rate the BL and the GL as 2 different series.I'm all for BL & GL (and some het) in one show…
"I'm all for BL & GL (and some het) in one show cause yes that's life ..."
I have a strong aversion to the "straight" lifestyle, and unless it's a fleeting subplot I can conveniently pretend doesn't exist, I'd rather not have it anywhere near me or the media I consume
"Sismance" or "womance" doesn't come close to describing what’s going on. These ladies have been showing all the signs of being smitten with each other
no this is different is based on a BL manhwa but the changed it to a bromance but it an overall good watch.
I meant that media's got a one-size-fits-all approach to relationships: insert woman into man's life (or insert man into woman's life), add a pinch of stereotypes, and bake until the "straight" agenda is cooked
I have a complete different opinion on Omegaverse. Yes, I know that people say it is a mrally grey area and I…
"... yea, because my very gay ass is somehow so homophobic and misogynistic"
Your "gay asses" have mastered the art of self-sabotage, internalizing the prejudices you claim to fight hard against
"You sound childish, and frankly ,after that comment you made about what makes someone a woman, transphobic"
"Transphobic" and "childish," you say? You can't wrap your heads around the arguments against omegaverse or gender identity ideology. Stick to simple, age-appropriate matters, please, like eating your vegetables and tying your shoelaces
"... having some level of compassion"
I have as much compassion for those wanting to have children as they have for children and the environment—none. I'll have compassion for the overworked, underpaid childless daycare workers who have to deal with other people's spawn
Take an average drama add two girls kissing. whoop the hype machine rolls into gear and the 10 reviews start piling…
Two women kissed? What's next, whole franchises built on men and women panting through forced nudity and "sex" scenes, selling fast food with orgasm faces, etc. Oh wait ... that already happens in "straight" media and you don't complain until it’s gay media doing it
Episode 5 wasn't what I had in mind when I hit play. They could’ve panned to anything, rain on a window, a flickering lamp, etc, and it would’ve been a more fitting choice than the "straight" porn Woo Ri's character was watching
I’ll endure, for the greater gay good. Hye Ri and Su Bin's chemistry is carrying the drama on its back
I have a complete different opinion on Omegaverse. Yes, I know that people say it is a mrally grey area and I…
"Now let us not go into who should be called women or not. Because not all women menstruate or have the so called female organs"
Dormant or disrupted by age and illness, menstruation is a bodily function experienced by women. No (healthy) man has cause to check his pockets for a pad or tampon
"First, many gay couples love and want children, yes many adopt, but what if they long for their own flesh and blood? Just like any other hetero couple?"
Procreation is an exercise in narcissism, it's the belief that the world is somehow incomplete without another carbon copy of one’s neuroses, insecurities, and receding hairline
Those passing down their genetic material rather than adopting the abundance of existing children in need of homes don't long for parenthood or children. They long for a smaller, needier version of themselves to validate them (and they will deny it)
Gay relationships don't spawn clones/mini-mes, and that's a good thing. They aren't a puzzle missing a piece, or a machine in need of rewiring, to whisper, "if only" at the sight of a crib. They're perfect the way they are
"Omegaverse brings out a fantasy world for them where this is possible" "... and normalising life of a gay couple just like any het couple"
Omegaverse dilutes and straightwashes gay relationships, burdening them with patriarchal reproductive expectations they're not meant to shoulder
"Second, this is a bit twisted. from my experience, it is mostly women who write and also read Omegaverse. Why?"
Because it has nothing to do with gay relationships and everything to do with a fetishistic distortion/dilution of gay relationships
"Another reason? Sorting through their own trauma"
Omegaverse isn't a constructive, effective coping mechanism. And its female consumers aren't burning down the house of patriarchy. They're redecorating its interiors, issuing invitations to others to partake in a remodeled oppression
"I assure you, that Omegaverse lovers are not homophobic"
I assure you that omegaverse and its "fans" are homophobic and misogynistic. I say this with the lived experience of a gay woman
You're having a full-blown meltdown over our comments, and you have the audacity to call us hysterical and emotionally stupid?
"... you can't even wait for the drama to come out"
"... the story of Heesu and Seungwon will be the center of the drama"
You're using your crystal balls and tarot cards to make bold claims about a drama that hasn't aired. And your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that Hee Su and Seung Won's interactions won't be the center of the drama
"You don't deserve this drama"
We don't deserve this "straight" drama, we deserve better
There's no proof if you choose to ignore the giant elephant in the room
"Heesu's story is very obviously the primary aspect of this drama"
Unless you've got some secret intel from the production team, you can't be confident that the gay couple won't be pushed aside
"And filling the comment section with negativity before the drama is even out is an affront to all the people who worked hard"
They're giving us a mixed bag of gay and "straight" storylines. They can't commit to telling a fully gay story, and I can't commit to giving their mixed bag praise or a standing ovation. Commitment deserves commitment
"Thankfully not all BLs are fantastical wish fulfillment with no sense of reality. And some of us are more concerned with authentic stories being told than just being served fluff"
Since when did "authenticity" become a synonym for "misery porn?" Happily, not all BLs/gay stories are a thunderstorm of sadness. They're reflecting reality's rainbow and the full range of human experiences, including the sunny side of being gay or in a gay relationship
No platform, however queer-friendly it claims to be, can guarantee immunity from the influence of straightwashing and homophobic censorship. The drawn-out production timeline might've given the powers that be ample opportunity to tone down or remove the half-gay content
Give them the benefit of the doubt, I won't. I've reached my limit
I have a strong aversion to the "straight" lifestyle, and unless it's a fleeting subplot I can conveniently pretend doesn't exist, I'd rather not have it anywhere near me or the media I consume
Your "gay asses" have mastered the art of self-sabotage, internalizing the prejudices you claim to fight hard against
"You sound childish, and frankly ,after that comment you made about what makes someone a woman, transphobic"
"Transphobic" and "childish," you say? You can't wrap your heads around the arguments against omegaverse or gender identity ideology. Stick to simple, age-appropriate matters, please, like eating your vegetables and tying your shoelaces
"... having some level of compassion"
I have as much compassion for those wanting to have children as they have for children and the environment—none. I'll have compassion for the overworked, underpaid childless daycare workers who have to deal with other people's spawn
I'd hate to see what the hate letter looks like
"It has now been added to my feminist kdrama holy trinity"
A camera doesn’t turn "straight" activities into feminism or liberation, it turns them into a product for mass consumption and arousal
I’ll endure, for the greater gay good. Hye Ri and Su Bin's chemistry is carrying the drama on its back
I’m relieved to know you're seeing through the illusion/lies
Dormant or disrupted by age and illness, menstruation is a bodily function experienced by women. No (healthy) man has cause to check his pockets for a pad or tampon
"First, many gay couples love and want children, yes many adopt, but what if they long for their own flesh and blood? Just like any other hetero couple?"
Procreation is an exercise in narcissism, it's the belief that the world is somehow incomplete without another carbon copy of one’s neuroses, insecurities, and receding hairline
Those passing down their genetic material rather than adopting the abundance of existing children in need of homes don't long for parenthood or children. They long for a smaller, needier version of themselves to validate them (and they will deny it)
Gay relationships don't spawn clones/mini-mes, and that's a good thing. They aren't a puzzle missing a piece, or a machine in need of rewiring, to whisper, "if only" at the sight of a crib. They're perfect the way they are
"Omegaverse brings out a fantasy world for them where this is possible"
"... and normalising life of a gay couple just like any het couple"
Omegaverse dilutes and straightwashes gay relationships, burdening them with patriarchal reproductive expectations they're not meant to shoulder
"Second, this is a bit twisted. from my experience, it is mostly women who write and also read Omegaverse. Why?"
Because it has nothing to do with gay relationships and everything to do with a fetishistic distortion/dilution of gay relationships
"Another reason? Sorting through their own trauma"
Omegaverse isn't a constructive, effective coping mechanism. And its female consumers aren't burning down the house of patriarchy. They're redecorating its interiors, issuing invitations to others to partake in a remodeled oppression
"I assure you, that Omegaverse lovers are not homophobic"
I assure you that omegaverse and its "fans" are homophobic and misogynistic. I say this with the lived experience of a gay woman