I'll answer your first question, about why the release of evidence in this manner.It's tactical.1. Make a statement…
Kim Soo Hyun's side "backed their claims with factual proof?"
You mean that thing they talk about and can't show us?
Their "factual proof" was a sinister mix of "trust me, bro, we have evidence" and an assertion that Kim Soo Hyun had been lurking in the shadows and counting down the days the minor got close to reaching legal age to pounce on her
Abuse cases come down to one person's word against anotherAnd it is everyone's business. Public figures profit…
Nobody’s saying a comment equals a legal verdict
I'm saying people waste their time speculating on who a celebrity's next girlfriend/boyfriend will be. They sure as hell can discuss serious allegations
Bottomline... it is none of our business.Based on what I read... there are only two people that knew what took…
Abuse cases come down to one person's word against another
And it is everyone's business. Public figures profit from their reputation. That reputation is in question here, and people have the right to reassess their support for Kim Soo Hyun
What my actual thought after reading this is that the relationship that KSH had with the dceased was definitely…
Has it been revealed that Kim Sae Ron's family didn't dissuade her from continuing the "relationship?"
I was the kind of reserved teenager who followed the advice of my family. But that's not common. I've seen teenagers doing the opposite of what they're told and ignoring the voices of reason and experience. They'd threaten to run away or cut ties with their families if anyone intervened
Kim Sae Ron's family might've not known about the "relationship," or might've been uncertain about how to handle their teenagers' behavior until it was too late
I'll answer your first question, about why the release of evidence in this manner.It's tactical.1. Make a statement…
What if Kim Soo Hyun monitored Kim Sae Ron's phone calls, emails, or visits to make sure she didn't say anything about the "relationship?" Or what if Kim Sae Ron was isolated from her family?
There are details that haven't been made public yet. The more people remain informed about this case, the more likely it is that a neutral party will feel obligated to investigate it and search for the truth
"Pictures, talking, videos, AI can fabricate everything. But "fans" are ready to judge based on .... nothing proofed"Multiple…
Exactly, families take every precaution they can think of to protect their loved ones and despite everyone's best efforts, tragedy occurs
Instead of dwelling on "why didn't the family speak up sooner?" or "where were they when this happened?," it's more productive to direct our energy towards finding the truth and supporting those affected by the situation
If the incompetent, fumble-fingered norm-zombies we call "producers" twist the adaptation into a mostly "straight" nightmare, I'll dig the adaptation's cinematic grave myself
I doubt they planned to release anything. Based on their statements, they’ve only asked for an apology. Clearly,…
Korea revised its laws 5-6 years ago and raised the age of consent from 13 to 16. Engaging in "sexual" acts with those under 16 is now unlawful, unless one's younger than 19 (legal adult age)
That's beside the point. You can't look at the law in isolation when discussing this topic. Korean culture has a strong emphasis on age, and a relationship between an adult and a minor would be seen as an abuse of power and a violation of social norms by normal Korean people. Your culture isn't the same
I doubt they planned to release anything. Based on their statements, they’ve only asked for an apology. Clearly,…
"And again, the parents knew nothing? Then how can they judge her relationships, if they did not see them unfold at all? They did not see the dynamics?"
You kept yapping about your culture that needs fixing. Did you know other people have their beliefs and cultures? Mine points to "adults dating minors = not cool, immoral, should be illegal"
The family of this woman holds the same belief that adult-minor relationships are immoral. How the relationship came about (unfolded) or how your culture sees it is irrelevant
"Pictures, talking, videos, AI can fabricate everything. But "fans" are ready to judge based on .... nothing proofed"Multiple…
This unnecessarily long comment boils down to, "my country is in denial about abuse"
"You assume that the guy approached her only with dirty"
What are the odds that an adult pursued a minor out of pure, platonic admiration? Was he fascinated by her nuanced takes on high school algebra? Did he seek out her teenage (lack of) wisdom on geopolitics?
I'll give you the short answer, the odds are 0%
"How do they know how the relationship developed? They witnessed 0 of it”
Her family witnessed the fallout and pieced together the puzzle
"KSR was so independent that she had her own apartment"
A minor with their own place isn't a prodigy in maturity, they're a minor who doesn't have a support system or safety net
"Why did all countries have young marriages? Was the world immoral?"
The past wasn't the golden age of morality. People had no birth control, no women’s rights, no child protection laws. They trampled over each other and clawed their way to the top. The present isn't that different
No human society was, is, or will be moral or a moral utopia
"I never said my country is conservative and extremely religious. More like old-fashioned"
Your not-conservative-or-religious-but-old-fashioned country where: 1) Marriage is seen as sacred 2) Most people get married young 3) Divorce is “allowed,” but rarely happens
Sounds conservative and religious
"One can't stop teens from discovering their sexuality, exploring and so on"
The topic isn’t minors being curious, it’s that adults should have zero involvement in the process
"I know they are not lying about it because I grew up surrounded by them ... Still, women and men are equal, and divorce is normal (not looked down on). There is no pressure to stay in an abusive marriage, not by society or anything else"
Your story belongs in the "Unreliable Narrator" section of the bookstore
"East Asians are not human anymore. They viciously devour each other and have no problem doing it"
Have you ever ventured into the Western side of YouTube, Twitter (X), Reddit, or any political group? If online "discourse" determined humanity, 99% of the human population would be considered rabid beasts by now
"Their societies are nothing but Squid Game on steroids"
"Squid Game" is a critique of global capitalism, extreme competition, and economic disparity. They're some of the factors that spell societal collapse, and every modern system is walking across that glass bridge, one wrong step away from falling/collapsing
You cared enough to comment and complain about others complaining, so the real question is: who the hell are you trying to convince, us or yourself?
"It’s all fiction"
Apply that to your comment. It's fictional levels of missing the point
The love’s forced and fabricated, it’s not just the hate that’s "forced"
*Countdown: https://imgur.com/tyfBG0F
You mean that thing they talk about and can't show us?
Their "factual proof" was a sinister mix of "trust me, bro, we have evidence" and an assertion that Kim Soo Hyun had been lurking in the shadows and counting down the days the minor got close to reaching legal age to pounce on her
I'm saying people waste their time speculating on who a celebrity's next girlfriend/boyfriend will be. They sure as hell can discuss serious allegations
And it is everyone's business. Public figures profit from their reputation. That reputation is in question here, and people have the right to reassess their support for Kim Soo Hyun
I was the kind of reserved teenager who followed the advice of my family. But that's not common. I've seen teenagers doing the opposite of what they're told and ignoring the voices of reason and experience. They'd threaten to run away or cut ties with their families if anyone intervened
Kim Sae Ron's family might've not known about the "relationship," or might've been uncertain about how to handle their teenagers' behavior until it was too late
There are details that haven't been made public yet. The more people remain informed about this case, the more likely it is that a neutral party will feel obligated to investigate it and search for the truth
Instead of dwelling on "why didn't the family speak up sooner?" or "where were they when this happened?," it's more productive to direct our energy towards finding the truth and supporting those affected by the situation
That's beside the point. You can't look at the law in isolation when discussing this topic. Korean culture has a strong emphasis on age, and a relationship between an adult and a minor would be seen as an abuse of power and a violation of social norms by normal Korean people. Your culture isn't the same
You kept yapping about your culture that needs fixing. Did you know other people have their beliefs and cultures? Mine points to "adults dating minors = not cool, immoral, should be illegal"
The family of this woman holds the same belief that adult-minor relationships are immoral. How the relationship came about (unfolded) or how your culture sees it is irrelevant
"You assume that the guy approached her only with dirty"
What are the odds that an adult pursued a minor out of pure, platonic admiration? Was he fascinated by her nuanced takes on high school algebra? Did he seek out her teenage (lack of) wisdom on geopolitics?
I'll give you the short answer, the odds are 0%
"How do they know how the relationship developed? They witnessed 0 of it”
Her family witnessed the fallout and pieced together the puzzle
"KSR was so independent that she had her own apartment"
A minor with their own place isn't a prodigy in maturity, they're a minor who doesn't have a support system or safety net
"Why did all countries have young marriages? Was the world immoral?"
The past wasn't the golden age of morality. People had no birth control, no women’s rights, no child protection laws. They trampled over each other and clawed their way to the top. The present isn't that different
No human society was, is, or will be moral or a moral utopia
"I never said my country is conservative and extremely religious. More like old-fashioned"
Your not-conservative-or-religious-but-old-fashioned country where:
1) Marriage is seen as sacred
2) Most people get married young
3) Divorce is “allowed,” but rarely happens
Sounds conservative and religious
"One can't stop teens from discovering their sexuality, exploring and so on"
The topic isn’t minors being curious, it’s that adults should have zero involvement in the process
"I know they are not lying about it because I grew up surrounded by them ... Still, women and men are equal, and divorce is normal (not looked down on). There is no pressure to stay in an abusive marriage, not by society or anything else"
Your story belongs in the "Unreliable Narrator" section of the bookstore
Have you ever ventured into the Western side of YouTube, Twitter (X), Reddit, or any political group? If online "discourse" determined humanity, 99% of the human population would be considered rabid beasts by now
"Their societies are nothing but Squid Game on steroids"
"Squid Game" is a critique of global capitalism, extreme competition, and economic disparity. They're some of the factors that spell societal collapse, and every modern system is walking across that glass bridge, one wrong step away from falling/collapsing