100% ,,!! People screaming gay erasure will be in a rude awakening if they live in the US where current admin…
"We will all be looking at straight, male-dominated shows"
That’s the cursed "default" everywhere
The playing field has been skewed toward straight stories for a long time. Straight identifying people want everything to be about them. Narcissism at its finest
From now on, every piece of media should include a legally mandated five-minute dialogue about gay people's greatness to teach straight identifying people a lesson
Theoretically you can say whatever but real life doesn't work that wayPeople do have definitions of beauty and…
Not all popular people are good-looking. They're propped up by wealth, make-up, surgeries, marketing, industry nepotism, and social biases
Have you met teenagers? They roast their friend’s existence and buy them a soda five minutes later. They don't care about how the friend feels, or that their "banter" sticks with the friend for life and wrecks their self-esteem
oh man, the people writing essays in the comment section... i'm pretty sure it took you guys longer to type all…
Character development shouldn’t come with a side of "here’s your mandatory dose of straight validation." A cynical person wouldn't be happy about something they know is disingenuous and manipulative
You're going to compromise artistic integrity for financial gain, why half-ass it and stop at the straight story? Go all-in and add some high-flying superheroes, car chases, fight scenes, and spontaneous musical numbers. They'll have investors throwing money at the screen
reading the comments I think I have figured it out there is this one person who is using different accounts to…
You're all a broken record of indifference to the straight couple's "5 minutes" of fame (or shame). "Who cares? They managed a measly 300 seconds of screentime!"
Are you a bunch of malfunctioning bots programmed to defend the lackluster straight couple? Or are you one persistent person with a bad disguise collection and too much time on their hands?
we just want to make sure they don't straightify queer material like "highschool return of a gangster". the trailer…
"Also, I may be the minority side of this but HSROAG being watered down is a good thing since that's literally a p*do novel"
They were going to change the story, they could’ve changed or reworked the "soul" ages and school setting to address the issues you have/avoid controversy. Removing the romance wasn't the solution. And the adaptation didn't have to be "p*do"
"Kinda ironic thing to say when our whole existence and the reason being born, thanks to a straight relationship"I…
"Say that to your parents for bringing you here no"
I have, I've demanded an apology from them
The thing is, it's not just my "parents" who are at fault. Society's conspired to bring me and everyone else here. Every baby-gushing "aww" and pregnancy-congratulating "yay." Every "children are the future" slogan and "start a family" ad had a hand in my birth. Everyone should be lining up to apologize
"... why should it be called agenda when that's literally just as normal as the other"
"Normal" things are part of a master plan and an agenda
He is straight, not inlove. He is aware Heesu likes them tho.
"Like Thai Bls where everybody and everyone is gay that you feel you are watching a made up story"
A fictional story feels … fictional? I don't see the problem
"Straight" media pretends gay people don't exist. Most of the time, every character magically identifies as "straight." It’s fair that BL returns the favor and pretends "straight" identifying people don't exist. I call it balance
But Chanyoung and Jiyu are canonically straight, i don't think it's apple to apple with "if a straight couple…
Chan Young and Ji Yu aren't canonically together in the source material. Men and women can be just friends, and you/this adaptation ruined that friendship
"Why do they normalize a straight couple in a bl story" Because it's normal? Straight is normal, gay is normal,…
"Kinda ironic thing to say when our whole existence and the reason being born, thanks to a straight relationship"
I don’t owe anyone a thank you. "Straight" identifying people should be apologizing to me for dragging me into this nightmare they call "society"
“Their screentime is merely a couple of minutes"
There's no time limit on whether something is unnecessary or intrusive
If an advertisement interrupts me for a couple of seconds, should I pretend it doesn’t affect my experience? The problem isn’t the length, your "straight" agenda doesn't belong in a BL
"... to emphasize that both gay and straight relationships exist naturally alongside each other"It's possible…
"I have a very close gay friend and whenever i show him BL, he cringes ..."
Your "close gay friend" isn't "the only gay person in the world"
You can't cherry-pick your gay friend as the representative of all things gay. Plenty of gay men and gay women enjoy BLs for flipping the script and creating a world where being gay is the rule, not the exception
"He created a BL show where the main couple is gay, which itself proves he isn’t homophobic"
Creating a part-gay, part-straight story doesn't give the producers a magical shield against homophobia
"BL, originally created to fulfill straight women’s fantasies ..."
So what? Superhero stories are designed for young boys' flights of fancy. Romance in general is marketed towards girls and women. Adult men dig these genres, too
"He also resents how BL creators often use gay relationships as a tool to cater to straight women rather than portraying them authentically"
Who decides what’s "authentic?" Gay experiences are diverse. Some experience soft, fluffy romances, some dramatic love triangles, some intense angst. No one piece of media represents everyone’s reality
"... most BL shows create a fantasy where everyone is magically gay"
Fiction isn't reality. It's a magical place. And in a magical place, anything is possible, including everyone being gay. That you can't imagine a fictional world full of gay people says more about your lack of imagination than "everyone is gay" BLs
"This naturally helps normalize the queer experience in a way that feels organic and inclusive"
Gay stories making room for "straight" stories doesn't normalize the gay experience. Two reasons:
1) Presenting gay relationships alongside "straight" ones encourages audiences to view and evaluate gay relationships through a heteronormative lens. They won't be able to appreciate gay relationships on their own terms
2) Mixing gay and "straight" stories distracts from the message of normalizing gay relationships. Audiences' attention is divided between two different types of relationships
Gay-only stories excel at normalizing homosexuality. They immerse audiences in a gay-centric world. They'd be able to better empathize with gay characters' emotions and experiences
"... to showcase a world where different sexualities coexist"
I'm allergic to "straight" identifying people and their lifestyle. We can coexist ... on opposite sides of the planet. Do you understand that? We need separate spaces, media, societies
You can't storm into a feminist hangout and dictate they spend half their time on men's woes. Same goes for BL. You and your close gay friend can't storm in demanding equal airtime for "straight" stories
"... serves primarily as a fantasy for straight women"
Part-gay, part-straight stories satisfy your "why can't we get along?" and "straight" fetishes. You get off on being so open-minded and inclusive that your brains have fallen out
"Blocking you"
Blocking others for disagreeing with you is like sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la." Not mature or productive
"You can shout about it all you want, but that won’t change the facts"
The fact is you're wrong. You've been reading too much fake news
That’s the cursed "default" everywhere
The playing field has been skewed toward straight stories for a long time. Straight identifying people want everything to be about them. Narcissism at its finest
From now on, every piece of media should include a legally mandated five-minute dialogue about gay people's greatness to teach straight identifying people a lesson
As far as the canon (source material) goes, Chan Yeong and Ji Yu are just friends, nothing more. They're not the stars of the show to end up together
Have you met teenagers? They roast their friend’s existence and buy them a soda five minutes later. They don't care about how the friend feels, or that their "banter" sticks with the friend for life and wrecks their self-esteem
You're going to compromise artistic integrity for financial gain, why half-ass it and stop at the straight story? Go all-in and add some high-flying superheroes, car chases, fight scenes, and spontaneous musical numbers. They'll have investors throwing money at the screen
Are you a bunch of malfunctioning bots programmed to defend the lackluster straight couple? Or are you one persistent person with a bad disguise collection and too much time on their hands?
They were going to change the story, they could’ve changed or reworked the "soul" ages and school setting to address the issues you have/avoid controversy. Removing the romance wasn't the solution. And the adaptation didn't have to be "p*do"
I have, I've demanded an apology from them
The thing is, it's not just my "parents" who are at fault. Society's conspired to bring me and everyone else here. Every baby-gushing "aww" and pregnancy-congratulating "yay." Every "children are the future" slogan and "start a family" ad had a hand in my birth. Everyone should be lining up to apologize
"... why should it be called agenda when that's literally just as normal as the other"
"Normal" things are part of a master plan and an agenda
A fictional story feels … fictional? I don't see the problem
"Straight" media pretends gay people don't exist. Most of the time, every character magically identifies as "straight." It’s fair that BL returns the favor and pretends "straight" identifying people don't exist. I call it balance
I don’t owe anyone a thank you. "Straight" identifying people should be apologizing to me for dragging me into this nightmare they call "society"
“Their screentime is merely a couple of minutes"
There's no time limit on whether something is unnecessary or intrusive
If an advertisement interrupts me for a couple of seconds, should I pretend it doesn’t affect my experience? The problem isn’t the length, your "straight" agenda doesn't belong in a BL
Your "close gay friend" isn't "the only gay person in the world"
You can't cherry-pick your gay friend as the representative of all things gay. Plenty of gay men and gay women enjoy BLs for flipping the script and creating a world where being gay is the rule, not the exception
"He created a BL show where the main couple is gay, which itself proves he isn’t homophobic"
Creating a part-gay, part-straight story doesn't give the producers a magical shield against homophobia
"BL, originally created to fulfill straight women’s fantasies ..."
So what? Superhero stories are designed for young boys' flights of fancy. Romance in general is marketed towards girls and women. Adult men dig these genres, too
"He also resents how BL creators often use gay relationships as a tool to cater to straight women rather than portraying them authentically"
Who decides what’s "authentic?" Gay experiences are diverse. Some experience soft, fluffy romances, some dramatic love triangles, some intense angst. No one piece of media represents everyone’s reality
"... most BL shows create a fantasy where everyone is magically gay"
Fiction isn't reality. It's a magical place. And in a magical place, anything is possible, including everyone being gay. That you can't imagine a fictional world full of gay people says more about your lack of imagination than "everyone is gay" BLs
"This naturally helps normalize the queer experience in a way that feels organic and inclusive"
Gay stories making room for "straight" stories doesn't normalize the gay experience. Two reasons:
1) Presenting gay relationships alongside "straight" ones encourages audiences to view and evaluate gay relationships through a heteronormative lens. They won't be able to appreciate gay relationships on their own terms
2) Mixing gay and "straight" stories distracts from the message of normalizing gay relationships. Audiences' attention is divided between two different types of relationships
Gay-only stories excel at normalizing homosexuality. They immerse audiences in a gay-centric world. They'd be able to better empathize with gay characters' emotions and experiences
"... to showcase a world where different sexualities coexist"
I'm allergic to "straight" identifying people and their lifestyle. We can coexist ... on opposite sides of the planet. Do you understand that? We need separate spaces, media, societies
You can't storm into a feminist hangout and dictate they spend half their time on men's woes. Same goes for BL. You and your close gay friend can't storm in demanding equal airtime for "straight" stories
"... serves primarily as a fantasy for straight women"
Part-gay, part-straight stories satisfy your "why can't we get along?" and "straight" fetishes. You get off on being so open-minded and inclusive that your brains have fallen out
"Blocking you"
Blocking others for disagreeing with you is like sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la." Not mature or productive
"You can shout about it all you want, but that won’t change the facts"
The fact is you're wrong. You've been reading too much fake news
Let's keep advocating for BL to stay genuine and focused on the gay stories it was created to tell