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Replying to Sigh Sep 24, 2024
We'll stop obsessing over GL/BL once TV stops obsessing over "straightness" and treating gay love like Voldemort…
If you're going to keep complaining about us complaining, go back to watching black-and-white TV. Why are you holding the rest of our TVs hostage?

Change doesn't come from playing it safe. It comes from challenging the status quo

We should give viewers—young and old—the chance to see and embrace love in different colors. Besides, some older people might surprise you and be cool with gay dramas/movies. We can't underestimate them
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Replying to YuriGLLove Sep 24, 2024
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Why I mention here, that disgusting user mention blank on 23.5. If you guys don’t like blank, just ignore it,…
Fantasy elements aren't my cup of potion, it's not weird for me to have reservations about the "best couples" you mentioned. Edward and Bella? More like Edward and Jailbait

Fiction is open to analysis and critique. I'm not treating problematic fictional "relationships" as real. If I were, I would be sending Bella to therapy for her daddy issues, reporting Edward for grooming and starting a petition to get Superman to attend a workplace harassment seminar for "dating" his colleague

What am I doing? I'm discussing the content of fiction and pointing out the ridiculousness of it. A non-human is said to have the hots for a human, I’m going to ask questions
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Replying to dom Sep 24, 2024
Please stop it with the GL obsession. Y'all can't just understand this is a TV drama. Just enjoy the drama itself.
We'll stop obsessing over GL/BL once TV stops obsessing over "straightness" and treating gay love like Voldemort (He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named-On-TV)
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Replying to moonchild Sep 21, 2024
well yeah, but it's not replaced with male love interest, in that case I would get the outrage, but romance is…
Your plan would send a strong message that we won't stand for censorship, all while giving this female-centered drama the attention and recognition it deserves. I'm on board with it. It's the perfect balance of protest and promotion
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On Vigilante Sep 21, 2024
Title Vigilante
Nam Joo Hyuk brought his A-game to "Vigilante." He scowled, he thirsted for justice, and he looked good doing it. Danger suits him

His chemistry with Lee Joon Hyuk was nothing short of explosive. I half expected the screen to melt every time they shared a scene
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Replying to Tom Sep 21, 2024
In addition to subpar marketing, Disney+ don't seem to get that they can't just make a bunch of dense political…
Nam Joo Hyuk brought his A-game to "Vigilante." He scowled, he thirsted for justice, and he looked good doing it. Danger suits him

I'm not convinced that "romance" alone is the right path to take. It's a popular genre, but it's not the be-all and end-all of successful content. Disney+ has a track record of thriving in the thriller and mystery genres, and injecting a hint of "romance" into those genres could be the sweet spot for boosting viewership and subscribers, as seen with "Moving"
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Replying to joy Sep 21, 2024
Straight people always steal from queer media and make it straight so straight scumbags like you can enjoy. Stop…
My condolences for your hurt "straight" feelings. It must be difficult for you to live in a society where one tiny comment on the internet is the biggest problem you face. Here's a tissue for your tears 🧻
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Replying to moonchild Sep 21, 2024
they removed the romance,.better this than keeping the character and making them just friends, in my humble opinion...…
Romance doesn't need to be the central focus of a story to be a part of it. The romantic subplot was still a vital element in character development, interpersonal relationships and narrative structure
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Replying to Jean Sep 21, 2024
wait did they completely removed buyeong? 💀
"Removing the romance" and "making the couple just friends" aren't the only options. What about the option of "keeping the romance and making it more romantic?"

Reducing the romantic relationship between two female or two male characters to "just a friendship" is homophobic and should be met with criticism, but it's a marginally better option than removing the love interest from the narrative. A "friendship" would allow for the possibility of gay undertones and a romantic subplot to arise organically in the story or to be expanded on by the fandom in fan works/edits
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Replying to moonchild Sep 21, 2024
well yeah, but it's not replaced with male love interest, in that case I would get the outrage, but romance is…
@moonchild's keyboard is stuck on CTRL+C, CTRL+V
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Replying to Shaoyaoville Sep 21, 2024
I can litterally list a good bunch of extremely popular kdramas with really popular main straight ships that still…
Homophobic comedy, queer-baiting and gay erasure are all serious issues that shouldn't be pitted against each other

The dramas of the past were unacceptable, we can't go back in time to remedy their flaws. What we can do is use our voices to advocate for a more respectful future in television

I'm not pressuring others to abandon the drama or join the boycott. I might watch it myself for the pleasure of Kim Tae Ri's performance, and I believe the all-female setting of the theatre will retain a sense of Sapphic charm in the absence of the main gay romance. I've simply brought attention to the issue of homophobic censorship and voiced my discontent at the constant removal of gay representation
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Replying to kretuzerwilhelmxiii Sep 19, 2024
*slaps korean map* this bad boy can hold so much homophobia in it!
It's wild how a country that prides itself on being developed can be so far behind when it comes to granting basic human rights to gay people
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Replying to moonchild Sep 19, 2024
it's not... the romance part wasn't huge part of the webtoon at all, plus it's TV drama... those BL dramas you…
Why don't BLs or GLs make it onto TV? Networks fear their viewers will be turned off by the briefest depiction of a gay couple. This is homophobia in action

The only reason to remove a smidgen of gay romance is if society has the emotional fortitude of a wet tissue and a phobia of anything that doesn't conform to traditional gender roles. Admit it, you're okay with the homophobia. Others, however, might not be. And they are allowed to call it what it is
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Replying to moonchild Sep 18, 2024
well yeah, but the romance part wasn't big in webtoon and it's still TV drama, there wouldn't be a kiss most likely,…
"... and how to modify one's body beyond what nature intended (balding and death)"

Trans identifying people aren't maniacal masterminds, rubbing their hands together in glee and mutilating their bodies to outsmart Mother Nature. No matter how many hormones they swallow, or how much surgery they go under, they'll be the same people. They will sprout unsightly bald spots or develop a host of health issues, just like the rest of us in this unnatural modern society

"Freedom" of choice is a thorny issue. I believe that all choices are open to respectful discussion and critique, even if the discussion raises questions about the morality, or lack thereof, of "body modification"

"... it's a bit short, just 5 letters"

It's bigger than the amount of time people spend thinking before they speak

"It's amazing that you've seen some homophobes who are ok with transgender people but not with gays"

I've had the misfortune of being around homophobes my whole life, I've seen every flavor under the sun
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Replying to moonchild Sep 18, 2024
well yeah, but the romance part wasn't big in webtoon and it's still TV drama, there wouldn't be a kiss most likely,…
"Idiot," "narcissist," "sociopath." Those are big words for someone with a small mind

Misogyny and homophobia share a common source in men's fear of being treated as they treat women. Trans issues don't fit into the equation. I've seen homophobes who are more supportive of trans identifying people, to the point of preferring that their gay children identify as trans. The enemies of the gay, women's, and trans movements are different groups with different agendas
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Replying to moonchild Sep 18, 2024
well yeah, but the romance part wasn't big in webtoon and it's still TV drama, there wouldn't be a kiss most likely,…
You're force-fitting trans issues into a conversation about gay people and stirring up a pot of trouble where there's no kettle to be found. It's not working

Are you discriminating against the people with brain deficiency?

Being trans and being gay are two separate parts of an identity. Trans refers to one’s internal sense of gender identity, it's the self-loathing, the discomfort with oneself and the external presentation of a different persona as a result. Gay refers to who one is attracted to. Self-love, not self-loathing, is the core principle of the gay rights movement. It’s not hard for me to imagine someone rejecting the trans identity and respecting the rights of gay people
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Replying to moonchild Sep 17, 2024
well yeah, but the romance part wasn't big in webtoon and it's still TV drama, there wouldn't be a kiss most likely,…
Are you the (un)official spokesperson for Bigoted Productions? Under every comments section of censored gay adaptations, there you are, complaining about other people complaining and telling them that "the gay romance isn't a major part of the story anyway"

Why are producers snipping out little, minor slices of stories? They could've left them in and put a warning label like, "caution: minor gay romance ahead. If it offends you, please close your eyes. The straight agenda will resume momentarily"

Removing the love interest is as much censorship as toning down the romance

Some Western countries are behind the times on gay rights and representation, why should Korea follow suit? "We can't make progress on human rights because some countries haven't yet." That's a terrible argument. Korea should be a leader, not a follower
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Replying to YuriGLLove Sep 16, 2024
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Why I mention here, that disgusting user mention blank on 23.5. If you guys don’t like blank, just ignore it,…
I'm not lying. At the time of Goblin's release, the age gap between Kim Go Eun and Gong Yoo, who were 25 and 37 respectively, was visible. Gong Yoo's appearance suggested a maturity beyond his years, he could've believably played a father figure to Go Eun. Their on-screen interactions were disturbing

I'm not trying to "lecture" you, I'm highlighting the inconsistency in how age gaps are treated in media

What do you have against baby-faced people?

Blank's source material might've been "problematic" to you, but the producers addressed your concerns by increasing the age of the younger female character from 18 to 20-21

The negative reaction to the series is disproportionate and unjustified, it doesn't acknowledge the positive creative changes made to the source material
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Replying to YuriGLLove Sep 16, 2024
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Why I mention here, that disgusting user mention blank on 23.5. If you guys don’t like blank, just ignore it,…
Appearances can be deceiving. If you're going to base relationships on appearances, will you tell people with similar haircuts or outfits they look like twins and should avoid dating?

Kim Go Eun and Gong Yoo had a visible age difference that made them appear more like a father-daughter duo, why do you defend that problematic drama?

"... that girlie behaves like a child"

Being an adult doesn’t mean losing your sense of fun and playfulness. It’s possible to have a youthful "spirit" or act childlike and still be a mature, responsible adult
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Replying to moonchild Sep 16, 2024
there are lot of LGBT characters or even couples in Korean dramas nowadays... better no romance at all than making…
"A lot" is relative. With one openly gay character or couple per million dramas, we're hardly pushing the boundaries of representation

Removing a gay romance isn't better than censoring it, it contributes to the erasure of gay identities and experiences

Homophobia is a widespread issue that affects all communities around the world. Some Western societies claim to be tolerant, but their reactions to gay representation in media demonstrate that there's progress to be made. Rather than repeating the mistakes of the West, Asia should aim to be more supportive of the gay community
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