It's because in the manwha it's a full-on proper kiss, so far more interesting than this. Unfortunately, Korean…
If it had been a lip kiss, the consent police would freak the F out about Seung Hyun being drunk and the "Dubious Consent" topic then would be open for discussion. A kiss on the cheek was safer for them in that regard (since anyone can kiss anyone on the cheek - its not inherently sexual or romantic) while giving the people something to look forward too later.
I have NEVER gotten busy in a dirty ass public bathroom. C'mon now. Have some respect for your immune systems and dermatologic health. Germs everywhere.
This show could have been 8 eps if they skipped all the nonsense. Waan and Tul should have been the only side couple. They could have just mildly alluded to everyone else from UWMA and scrapped Bee and Prince altogether.
As much as I love BounPrem and feel they do have chemistry together, I truly think their het brains get in the…
I agree 100%
I kept wondering why he wouldn't just raise his damn head in both eps. Sir, you chose to get casted for a BL couple. It's unfair to your acting partner if both people aren't giving their all to the scene. A little frustrating, but I hope he gets better.
There is a special episode that will air on Vimeo (sadly, not free) on November 20 that will supposedly close…
Oh, I'm aware. But the special episode will likely show both couples vacationing and having wild freaky sex per this company's usual format. Nothing important happens in special episodes. it's just fluff and freak.
In my scenario we would have my previously suggested emotional healing episode as the finale (ep 14), then the sexy special ep after that. Sky and Pai deserved 7 eps total like Rain and Payu got (especially since the had an actual story).
The angst in this ep felt more like a penultimate than a finale. I think we needed one more episode to show Sky slowly healing with Pai from this latest incident. I think it was a little jarring going from all that trauma to happily ever after b/c we needed to wrap it all up. This ep should have ended with the teary part of the conversation where Sky opened up about his past.
If there was an episode 14, it could have shown the aftermath; Pai moving in with Sky (or vice versa), holding Sky through his nightmares as they got less and less frequent, accompanying him to THERAPY, doing romantic/fun activities with him, and showing Sky's burden lightening up over time while surrounded by the people he cares about most. Then that final scene of this episode (that was shown as 1 month later) could have been the final scene of ep 14 but 6-8 months later instead. That would have made for a more satisfying finale IMO.
2 episodes were missing from this show - they had to be. One after ep 2 and one after ep 4 but before this one. Why are they feeling this intensely for each other rn? Why the melodrama??? What is this story???? No context is given for their emotions.
It's also the gaslighting for me.......my rating has dropped dramatically. I don't know if I'll finish or not. I was really looking forward to this show before it aired. Such a disappointment.
No, he needed directness and honesty from Sky. It was very justified. He needed to confirm if what he wrote was…
I don't believe Pai was being malicious at all. He'd likely reread it multiple times while waiting for Sky. He'd been ghosted and dumped very meanly in a way that felt very uncharacteristic of Sky. I'm sure he was shocked by what Sky had written and wanted to confront him to know which of it was truth and which fiction. Sky's reaction gave Pai those answers. Sky survived as did Pai after that brutal phone call. This was the only way for Pai to really ascertain how Sky really felt about him (b/c he'd always been so contradictory).
I've been Sky (emotionally repressed/guarded/dishonest), so I speak from experience that sometimes being pushed to open up is what I've wanted b/c it'd felt like I'd rather die than open up on my own (b/c of the intense fear of rejection/abandonment) - I wished for the other person to read my mind so I didn't needed to communicate on my own. It feels jarring to be laid bare in that way because it's scary, but at the same time it's a huge relief to not carry the burden of your own secret thoughts anymore
This was far from abusive in my eyes. It felt like tough love (emphasis on the love). But you have the right to see it however you wish.
the notebook scene was so unnecessarily mean i know sky hurt him by pretending it was all an act but why would…
No, he needed directness and honesty from Sky. It was very justified. He needed to confirm if what he wrote was the real Sky or not. Pai's been super patient with Sky by letting him get away with being indirect and uncommunicative for so long, but Sky's been hurting both Pai and himself repeatedly by doing so. They both needed all of those things said aloud and verified. I'm sure as mortifyingly embarrassing as it felt for Sky, he likely also felt relieved that he no longer "had" to hide his thoughts anymore, b/c now they are out there.
The character of Thua is trash. He could have outed everything BUT their romantic relationship. He could have just said Ayan was covering for his friend. It's so low to me b/c he's in a whole secret relationship with Kan (a prefect who has also disciplined the homosexual protesters) but chose not to reveal THAT.
He would have been a "hero" had he not victimized his own friends. Ayan was there for him and tried to help him communicate to his mom, and this is the thanks he gets??? Thua couldn't have spoken to Ayan first so that Ay could have tried again to have Akk confess his part in the curse. If that hadn't worked, Thua could have done all of this WITHOUT outing anyone's sexuality. I could even fathom that he was worked up in the heat of the moment, but he didn't even apologize for that part of what he did.
Like, just bad character writing. They made Thua unlikeable to so many viewers who think the way I do.
I mean, they all just watched Thua get bullied for being gay and they were secretly also gay the whole time and…
Again, he could have said that he was protecting his FRIEND. That they kissed was not relevant to anything. Separate from the curse, all prefects have disciplined the homosexual protesters and to be dating and going to protests with one is fraternizing with the enemy so....yeah. I get what your side is but you are being willfully ignorant of the hypocrisy on both sides.
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I mean, they all just watched Thua get bullied for being gay and they were secretly also gay the whole time and…
Oh save it. Thua was in a whole ass secret relationship....he's also a hypocrite. He didn't out Kan - you know, his BF - who is also a prefect. He could have just said that Ayan was protecting his friend. He didn't need to out their relationship if he wasn't't going to out Kan too.
I don't think In would have regardless of Mol. He wouldn't do it even when they were alone. The point is he can't…
Sorry to hear about your "In" - I can wholeheartedly understand the threat to his safety playing a huge factor. It honestly makes me so mad thinking about how toxic some parents can be - Like, "hello you are raising human beings with feelings. How you interact and appear to them will be internalized and affect how they interact with the world." I really wish we got to hear more about In's life independent of Siam. Because from what he spoke of, In had an inferiority complex because if him and his mother struggling monetarily.
Makes me wonder when I think of Wang's story about his classmate who struggled to fit in. Perhaps In could identify with that boy - already feeling left out (the boy b/c of his appearance. In b/c of his socioeconomic status). That boy clung to Wang because he didn't want to feel alone, but In unconsciously clung to Siam because he wanted to be accepted in a world where he already felt inferior. He's repeated often how Siam was liked by all (Golden Boy). It's like In couldn't comprehend why Siam would dare give up the privilage he had being able to pass as a "normal" accepted person in society. Seems In tried but he just couldn't do it, so appearing less just seemed easier.
Wang is so indignantly headstrong. It was both annoying and endearing (Was I like this when I was 20???? - I guess I get why my mom was so annoyed) I agree, perhaps if Wang had been patient, gone back to Bangkok and come back to visit In every couple months, he could have slowly earned his trust enough to allow In to lower his guard.....or In could have taken their time apart to close back up and never allow Wang to get as close as he got again. Who knows. Wang had wanted to stay the 2 months for In's ankle to heal - it's his mother that expedited their departure. I do wish they'd gotten more time.
I don't think In would have regardless of Mol. He wouldn't do it even when they were alone. The point is he can't…
The point was already made in this series when Wang said that once he left with Mol "I wouldn't lose, she wouldn't lose....." What was unspoken was that In would lose out on life if he stayed hidden forever. Mol gets more time with her son as she wants, Wang gets to eventually break free of her when the time is right (and he will -he's just biding his time at this point)...but In has already lost and will continue to do so because of his inaction.
Once again. correlation is not causation. He did not directly cause Siam's death, but he was a contributing factor, as was Mol, alcoholism and his environment. But support from the object of your love goes a long way. Siam could have still perished somehow even if In chose him, but at least In's conscience wouldn't have to hold that his rejection factored into that decision. I'm only speaking to the story presented and I don't "blame" him as you say (it's In who blames himself).
I understand that while Wang is the main character, his purpose may have been to tell In's story - that there was probably the most profound lesson to be taken from In's life choices. So I'm not blaming him. I was just moved the most by his character. The lesson of the manipulative overprotective/controlling parent losing out in the end and the youth learning that he can't get what he wants when he wants but should be true himself in spite of is not quite what called to me the most. How In's and Wang's life lessons interacted in the story was truly compelling. Wang learned patience in the end, but In could not learn emotional conviction.
I don't think In would have regardless of Mol. He wouldn't do it even when they were alone. The point is he can't…
Oh I definitely have empathy and compassion for how In feels and what he might've experienced in Thai society , but I can still call a spade a spade in spite of that. Instead of being brave by facing himself, In chose to be cowardly and isolate - for 20 years. I can understand him while still recognizing that these excuses were of his own creation.
This son wouldn't exist had he not pushed Siam to be with Mol when he knew he didn't want to be with her. Siam would not have un-alived himself had In not ignored his calls and left the country when Siam confessed to him (that one's correlation not causation- I'm aware).
Siam came from the same time and country as In, but he was courageous to put himself out on that limb by confessing - Siam had everything to lose. He'd already let his wife go and could have been in danger of losing his son as well by coming out -had In accepted him. I can empathize with why In couldn't do the same (be courageous), but it doesn't change the fact that it was a mistake - He wouldn't feel so guilt ridden if it was not. You can see in his eyes how badly he wish he did and could be brave enough to make a different choice. His fear has gotten the best of him and that is so sad.
You are right in that if In wouldn't be brave for Siam, he definitely wouldn't do so for Wang - but I think that's the kicker. Wang and his grief is literally the product of all of In's mistakes, and instead of learning, he just repeats the same pattern of cowardice. He didn't have to choose to be with Wang - whose to say that relationship would even last - but the least he could have done for himself was be honest about who he was and what he felt. But I understand how many people in real life have lived and do continue to live similar to In. - How many people will die with these regrets and yearnings, like In.
I've never hit fast forward so fucking fast.
Germs everywhere.
I kept wondering why he wouldn't just raise his damn head in both eps. Sir, you chose to get casted for a BL couple. It's unfair to your acting partner if both people aren't giving their all to the scene. A little frustrating, but I hope he gets better.
MONTHS!!!????
Where? How?
I'm convinced episodes are missing. This show is such a disappointment.
In my scenario we would have my previously suggested emotional healing episode as the finale (ep 14), then the sexy special ep after that. Sky and Pai deserved 7 eps total like Rain and Payu got (especially since the had an actual story).
If there was an episode 14, it could have shown the aftermath; Pai moving in with Sky (or vice versa), holding Sky through his nightmares as they got less and less frequent, accompanying him to THERAPY, doing romantic/fun activities with him, and showing Sky's burden lightening up over time while surrounded by the people he cares about most. Then that final scene of this episode (that was shown as 1 month later) could have been the final scene of ep 14 but 6-8 months later instead. That would have made for a more satisfying finale IMO.
It's also the gaslighting for me.......my rating has dropped dramatically. I don't know if I'll finish or not. I was really looking forward to this show before it aired. Such a disappointment.
I've been Sky (emotionally repressed/guarded/dishonest), so I speak from experience that sometimes being pushed to open up is what I've wanted b/c it'd felt like I'd rather die than open up on my own (b/c of the intense fear of rejection/abandonment) - I wished for the other person to read my mind so I didn't needed to communicate on my own. It feels jarring to be laid bare in that way because it's scary, but at the same time it's a huge relief to not carry the burden of your own secret thoughts anymore
This was far from abusive in my eyes. It felt like tough love (emphasis on the love). But you have the right to see it however you wish.
He would have been a "hero" had he not victimized his own friends. Ayan was there for him and tried to help him communicate to his mom, and this is the thanks he gets??? Thua couldn't have spoken to Ayan first so that Ay could have tried again to have Akk confess his part in the curse. If that hadn't worked, Thua could have done all of this WITHOUT outing anyone's sexuality. I could even fathom that he was worked up in the heat of the moment, but he didn't even apologize for that part of what he did.
Like, just bad character writing. They made Thua unlikeable to so many viewers who think the way I do.
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Makes me wonder when I think of Wang's story about his classmate who struggled to fit in. Perhaps In could identify with that boy - already feeling left out (the boy b/c of his appearance. In b/c of his socioeconomic status). That boy clung to Wang because he didn't want to feel alone, but In unconsciously clung to Siam because he wanted to be accepted in a world where he already felt inferior. He's repeated often how Siam was liked by all (Golden Boy). It's like In couldn't comprehend why Siam would dare give up the privilage he had being able to pass as a "normal" accepted person in society. Seems In tried but he just couldn't do it, so appearing less just seemed easier.
Wang is so indignantly headstrong. It was both annoying and endearing (Was I like this when I was 20???? - I guess I get why my mom was so annoyed)
I agree, perhaps if Wang had been patient, gone back to Bangkok and come back to visit In every couple months, he could have slowly earned his trust enough to allow In to lower his guard.....or In could have taken their time apart to close back up and never allow Wang to get as close as he got again. Who knows. Wang had wanted to stay the 2 months for In's ankle to heal - it's his mother that expedited their departure. I do wish they'd gotten more time.
Once again. correlation is not causation. He did not directly cause Siam's death, but he was a contributing factor, as was Mol, alcoholism and his environment. But support from the object of your love goes a long way. Siam could have still perished somehow even if In chose him, but at least In's conscience wouldn't have to hold that his rejection factored into that decision. I'm only speaking to the story presented and I don't "blame" him as you say (it's In who blames himself).
I understand that while Wang is the main character, his purpose may have been to tell In's story - that there was probably the most profound lesson to be taken from In's life choices. So I'm not blaming him. I was just moved the most by his character. The lesson of the manipulative overprotective/controlling parent losing out in the end and the youth learning that he can't get what he wants when he wants but should be true himself in spite of is not quite what called to me the most. How In's and Wang's life lessons interacted in the story was truly compelling. Wang learned patience in the end, but In could not learn emotional conviction.
This son wouldn't exist had he not pushed Siam to be with Mol when he knew he didn't want to be with her. Siam would not have un-alived himself had In not ignored his calls and left the country when Siam confessed to him (that one's correlation not causation- I'm aware).
Siam came from the same time and country as In, but he was courageous to put himself out on that limb by confessing - Siam had everything to lose. He'd already let his wife go and could have been in danger of losing his son as well by coming out -had In accepted him. I can empathize with why In couldn't do the same (be courageous), but it doesn't change the fact that it was a mistake - He wouldn't feel so guilt ridden if it was not. You can see in his eyes how badly he wish he did and could be brave enough to make a different choice. His fear has gotten the best of him and that is so sad.
You are right in that if In wouldn't be brave for Siam, he definitely wouldn't do so for Wang - but I think that's the kicker. Wang and his grief is literally the product of all of In's mistakes, and instead of learning, he just repeats the same pattern of cowardice. He didn't have to choose to be with Wang - whose to say that relationship would even last - but the least he could have done for himself was be honest about who he was and what he felt. But I understand how many people in real life have lived and do continue to live similar to In. - How many people will die with these regrets and yearnings, like In.