SunnieBunns

I agree 100%

I kept wondering why he wouldn't just raise his damn head in both eps. Sir, you chose to get casted for a BL couple. It's unfair to your acting partner if both people aren't giving their all to the scene. A little frustrating, but I hope he gets better.

"All these months with me...."
MONTHS!!!????
Where? How?
I'm convinced episodes are missing. This show is such a disappointment.

Oh, I'm aware. But the special episode will likely show both couples vacationing and having wild freaky sex per this company's usual format. Nothing important happens in special episodes. it's just fluff and freak.

In my scenario we would have my previously suggested emotional healing episode as the finale (ep 14), then the sexy special ep after that. Sky and Pai deserved 7 eps total like Rain and Payu got (especially since the had an actual story).

The angst in this ep felt more like a penultimate than a finale. I think we needed one more episode to show Sky slowly healing with Pai from this latest incident. I think it was a little jarring going from all that trauma to happily ever after b/c we needed to wrap it all up. This ep should have ended with the teary part of the conversation where Sky opened up about his past.

If there was an episode 14, it could have shown the aftermath; Pai moving in with Sky (or vice versa), holding Sky through his nightmares as they got less and less frequent, accompanying him to THERAPY, doing romantic/fun activities with him, and showing Sky's burden lightening up over time while surrounded by the people he cares about most. Then that final scene of this episode (that was shown as 1 month later) could have been the final scene of ep 14 but 6-8 months later instead. That would have made for a more satisfying finale IMO.

2 episodes were missing from this show - they had to be. One after ep 2 and one after ep 4 but before this one. Why are they feeling this intensely for each other rn? Why the melodrama??? What is this story???? No context is given for their emotions.

It's also the gaslighting for me.......my rating has dropped dramatically. I don't know if I'll finish or not. I was really looking forward to this show before it aired. Such a disappointment.

I don't believe Pai was being malicious at all. He'd likely reread it multiple times while waiting for Sky. He'd been ghosted and dumped very meanly in a way that felt very uncharacteristic of Sky. I'm sure he was shocked by what Sky had written and wanted to confront him to know which of it was truth and which fiction. Sky's reaction gave Pai those answers. Sky survived as did Pai after that brutal phone call. This was the only way for Pai to really ascertain how Sky really felt about him (b/c he'd always been so contradictory).

I've been Sky (emotionally repressed/guarded/dishonest), so I speak from experience that sometimes being pushed to open up is what I've wanted b/c it'd felt like I'd rather die than open up on my own (b/c of the intense fear of rejection/abandonment) - I wished for the other person to read my mind so I didn't needed to communicate on my own. It feels jarring to be laid bare in that way because it's scary, but at the same time it's a huge relief to not carry the burden of your own secret thoughts anymore

This was far from abusive in my eyes. It felt like tough love (emphasis on the love). But you have the right to see it however you wish.

No, he needed directness and honesty from Sky. It was very justified. He needed to confirm if what he wrote was the real Sky or not. Pai's been super patient with Sky by letting him get away with being indirect and uncommunicative for so long, but Sky's been hurting both Pai and himself repeatedly by doing so. They both needed all of those things said aloud and verified. I'm sure as mortifyingly embarrassing as it felt for Sky, he likely also felt relieved that he no longer "had" to hide his thoughts anymore, b/c now they are out there.

The character of Thua is trash. He could have outed everything BUT their romantic relationship. He could have just said Ayan was covering for his friend. It's so low to me b/c he's in a whole secret relationship with Kan (a prefect who has also disciplined the homosexual protesters) but chose not to reveal THAT.

He would have been a "hero" had he not victimized his own friends. Ayan was there for him and tried to help him communicate to his mom, and this is the thanks he gets??? Thua couldn't have spoken to Ayan first so that Ay could have tried again to have Akk confess his part in the curse. If that hadn't worked, Thua could have done all of this WITHOUT outing anyone's sexuality. I could even fathom that he was worked up in the heat of the moment, but he didn't even apologize for that part of what he did.

Like, just bad character writing. They made Thua unlikeable to so many viewers who think the way I do.

Again, he could have said that he was protecting his FRIEND. That they kissed was not relevant to anything. Separate from the curse, all prefects have disciplined the homosexual protesters and to be dating and going to protests with one is fraternizing with the enemy so....yeah. I get what your side is but you are being willfully ignorant of the hypocrisy on both sides.

And I could care less if you block me. I should be able to type how I speak and if you considered my comment rude that's your right. Just block me then, but no need to announce it as if I'd cry afterwards or something Lol. Have a nice day

Oh save it. Thua was in a whole ass secret relationship....he's also a hypocrite. He didn't out Kan - you know, his BF - who is also a prefect. He could have just said that Ayan was protecting his friend. He didn't need to out their relationship if he wasn't't going to out Kan too.

Sorry to hear about your "In" - I can wholeheartedly understand the threat to his safety playing a huge factor. It honestly makes me so mad thinking about how toxic some parents can be - Like, "hello you are raising human beings with feelings. How you interact and appear to them will be internalized and affect how they interact with the world." I really wish we got to hear more about In's life independent of Siam. Because from what he spoke of, In had an inferiority complex because if him and his mother struggling monetarily.

Makes me wonder when I think of Wang's story about his classmate who struggled to fit in. Perhaps In could identify with that boy - already feeling left out (the boy b/c of his appearance. In b/c of his socioeconomic status). That boy clung to Wang because he didn't want to feel alone, but In unconsciously clung to Siam because he wanted to be accepted in a world where he already felt inferior. He's repeated often how Siam was liked by all (Golden Boy). It's like In couldn't comprehend why Siam would dare give up the privilage he had being able to pass as a "normal" accepted person in society. Seems In tried but he just couldn't do it, so appearing less just seemed easier.

Wang is so indignantly headstrong. It was both annoying and endearing (Was I like this when I was 20???? - I guess I get why my mom was so annoyed)
I agree, perhaps if Wang had been patient, gone back to Bangkok and come back to visit In every couple months, he could have slowly earned his trust enough to allow In to lower his guard.....or In could have taken their time apart to close back up and never allow Wang to get as close as he got again. Who knows. Wang had wanted to stay the 2 months for In's ankle to heal - it's his mother that expedited their departure. I do wish they'd gotten more time.

The point was already made in this series when Wang said that once he left with Mol "I wouldn't lose, she wouldn't lose....." What was unspoken was that In would lose out on life if he stayed hidden forever. Mol gets more time with her son as she wants, Wang gets to eventually break free of her when the time is right (and he will -he's just biding his time at this point)...but In has already lost and will continue to do so because of his inaction.

Once again. correlation is not causation. He did not directly cause Siam's death, but he was a contributing factor, as was Mol, alcoholism and his environment. But support from the object of your love goes a long way. Siam could have still perished somehow even if In chose him, but at least In's conscience wouldn't have to hold that his rejection factored into that decision. I'm only speaking to the story presented and I don't "blame" him as you say (it's In who blames himself).

I understand that while Wang is the main character, his purpose may have been to tell In's story - that there was probably the most profound lesson to be taken from In's life choices. So I'm not blaming him. I was just moved the most by his character. The lesson of the manipulative overprotective/controlling parent losing out in the end and the youth learning that he can't get what he wants when he wants but should be true himself in spite of is not quite what called to me the most. How In's and Wang's life lessons interacted in the story was truly compelling. Wang learned patience in the end, but In could not learn emotional conviction.

Oh I definitely have empathy and compassion for how In feels and what he might've experienced in Thai society , but I can still call a spade a spade in spite of that. Instead of being brave by facing himself, In chose to be cowardly and isolate - for 20 years. I can understand him while still recognizing that these excuses were of his own creation.

This son wouldn't exist had he not pushed Siam to be with Mol when he knew he didn't want to be with her. Siam would not have un-alived himself had In not ignored his calls and left the country when Siam confessed to him (that one's correlation not causation- I'm aware).

Siam came from the same time and country as In, but he was courageous to put himself out on that limb by confessing - Siam had everything to lose. He'd already let his wife go and could have been in danger of losing his son as well by coming out -had In accepted him. I can empathize with why In couldn't do the same (be courageous), but it doesn't change the fact that it was a mistake - He wouldn't feel so guilt ridden if it was not. You can see in his eyes how badly he wish he did and could be brave enough to make a different choice. His fear has gotten the best of him and that is so sad.

You are right in that if In wouldn't be brave for Siam, he definitely wouldn't do so for Wang - but I think that's the kicker. Wang and his grief is literally the product of all of In's mistakes, and instead of learning, he just repeats the same pattern of cowardice. He didn't have to choose to be with Wang - whose to say that relationship would even last - but the least he could have done for himself was be honest about who he was and what he felt. But I understand how many people in real life have lived and do continue to live similar to In. - How many people will die with these regrets and yearnings, like In.

Wang already fought for In. The only way they would have worked would be if In reached out/came to Wang - but In never did because he chose not to be brave for a change.

I just feel if they wanted to make this a "romance" instead of social commentary like they did, they could have introduced a time jump at the end showing In eventually crossing that bridge, engaging with the villagers, then traveling to Bangkok and finding Wang to confess his love. But that's not what this story was at its core (unfortunately Lol).

Agreed.
Mol is and has always been a good excuse for In to not face his feelings. He doesn't have to confront his homosexuality if Mol is willing to take the object of his affection away from him (both times). It's easy for him to be so concerned about giving her what she wants when he so terrified of claiming what could be happiness for himself.

If he wasn't so hung up on Mol's thoughts then In would probably be hung up on Siam's possible apprehensions from the grave or something else irrelevant to his true emotions towards Wang.

He had ample opportunity to realize/accept his feelings for Siam prior to Mol even coming into the picture (Mol met them in college), but he chose to delude himself into thinking those feelings were only of admiration of a senior that had befriended him. This man lived on Delulu Island before Mol, so I don't see her acceptance now as anything that would change In's mind. He's never accepted himself, which is his real issue - not necessarily Mol.

Mol might have "won" the battle, but she lost the war. Wang didn't choose her, he decided not to force his presence on someone that doesn't have the courage to choose him. And Wang said so himself that he has plenty of time to break free. He's just biding his time, so while Mol may be all chipper now that she thinks she manipulated things to go her way, she in for a rude awakening when Wang does eventually make his break from her. She can't keep her son captive forever.

Look we all saw the boxers...but I decided to use my imagination to rationalize for that scene that yes, you can totally have sex with boxers on - there's a hole in boxers for a reason (and it's not for peeing) LOL

Wish people would stop complaining about the wife thing. It's their country's culture and for once in a show, the "wife" brought up the term / suggested to be called it themselves.

Usually we see the term being thrust on them by the Top, but the fact that Rain WANTS to call himself wife is important here. If he likes it for himself, then I love it for him. All of you so big on consent here for something as small as someone being breathed on should also take into consideration that CONSENT was given by Rain to be called wife. It's not offensive in this instance. - no different from saying he wants to be called boyfriend/lover/partner/wife - Rain is labeling himself with what feels most comfortable to him. Please respect that.

Idk how lashing out because your crush is gushing over someone else equates to being homophobic. He didn't even say anything bad about being gay. He essentially said "If your brother loves him so much, why doesn't he just bang him." And he only said so because his crush was gushing and he was jealous. I get how she would get the wrong idea not knowing what his moodiness is about but we as an audience should know better. I've seen a lot of people calling him homophobic and I don't think that word is always applicable. Ignorant sure, but not hateful. He wasn't given the chance to explain his opinion on homosexuality for us to draw that conclusion yet.

This show is 40% commercial (not product placement, but what feels like actual commercials), 40% promoting other GMMTV shows/actors, 20% plot. I swear they created this show to promote GMMTV assets and sponsors more than they did to tell an actual freaking story. I'm very disappointed with this series. The first ep seemed so promising but it quickly went downhill for the reasons previously mentioned.